Is a spouse entitled, after the divorce?
 

So, Miss Richie, wife of Lionel, is suing for divorce. She wants $300,000/month in support payments.

That's not a typo. Three-hundred thousand US dollars, per month.

Now, here is some text from the "explanation" she has for her "need."

(freakishly--these are per/month!! expenses. I don't even get the $1G/month laser hair removal. I thought that made it not grow back. Is she a wildabeast?)

The full set of paperwork explains in bragging detail what she spends.


From what I gather she met and married Lionel when she was an 18 year old. From her claims in the paperwork she ran a clothes designing business. It doesn't sound like she's claiming lost wages she didn't make while married, but she does say he had her quit. I guess that makes it implied.

While she is an extreeme example of what a spouse might demand, is a spouse entitled to the cash, post divorce?

That's not my whole question...
She may be entitled to a place to live, and an income in the short-to-medium term, and the kids should be taken care of, but does a divorced spouse deserve the rich lifestyle just because of the time spent married?

I can see him being responsible for paying while she regains her footing. I feel if they, as a couple, chose for her to not work, then she is entitled to support until she re-enters the workforce. Mothering is a job, which she supposedly did. I question how much "mommy" work she did with a full time staff of nannies and housekeepers, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt.

How do you feel about a spouse getting P.A.I.D after a divorce?

damn. thats really screwed up. bling bling.

She's entitled to a life of hard work instead of grand theft from someone who earned it.

To put it short, I am disguested by her. I bust my ass everyday to earn tuition money and she expects a free ride. I'd be overwhelmed to get $300,000 ONCE let alone MONTHLY. Grrrr.

Simple solution. Just have their daughter shape up. Right now she's a spoiled prissy little bitch who's leeching off of her father's fame. Tell her to leech of Paris, I think she can afford to support her instead of good old Lionel.

Yeah, I agree. If you want to leech off an ex-husband/wife for money while you did little after the marriage to earn anything, you seem like a money grubber. More and more these days, people seem to be more about the money than any sort of morality.

I could live on that for a couple of years.

Comfortably.

I guess everyone decides where their priorities are and hers are apparently solidly in the "material" world.

She should get real-life living expenses (laser hair removal? buy a razor, you spoiled bitch) until she gets back on her feet, gets a job, and maybe a bit of child support until she remarries. Make her prove that she spends the child support money on the child.

$125,000 for boarding school?!?!?

You could get a damn good college edumacation for that!

surely that figure is an ambit claim. i mean, she can't honestly be serious about that.
i know nothing of the american divorce laws etc... but i would think that shes treating the issue the same way you'd sell your car.
aim really high (well above its worth), and then be happy with a figure thats close enough.

but still, those are some ridiculous demands.

If he asked her not to work and she did as he requested then sje has not had those years of experience to increase her wages. If he allowed her to do all those things while married then legally she is entitled to a percentage of income sufficient to keep her in the level of living that she is accoustomed to. It's normal for her to itemize all the expenses to substantiate that.

Personally though I think it's a bit much to ask for all that. It wouldn't hurt her or any other person to spend a little time living below their usual income. It teaches an appreciation of little things and of their usual lap of luxury. Her son will pick up that attitude of expecting luxury and won't appreciate it as much as he should. She is doing herself and her son a disservice.

Ignoring the scale of the request ($300K/month?!? :hmm: ) and just addressing the question of whether a spouse is "entitled" to support after a divorce...I'd have to say it was dependent on what the relationship looked like. I'm gonna resist my impulse to gender-neutralize the discussion and just acknowledge the fact that it's usually the wife who's asking for support. If she worked and earned her own money and was able to develop salable skills that would allow her to support herself, then I'd say nope - she can support herself. But if the couple made the choice for the woman to stay home and raise children and support the husband in his career, I'd say absolutely she's entitled to some support - either for as long as she's still raising the kids, or for a period of time that would allow her to get an education and start a career.

This kind of shit, though, where a spoiled rich woman could have gone out and done whatever the hell she wanted and chose not to have a career...hard to muster any sympathy for her when you see what a real single/divorced mother has to go through on a daily basis.

That's like 5 years of boarding school education....she's not even taking care of her kids if she is shipping her 9 year old son off to boarding school.

Perhaps she needs reparations for actually listening to some of his "music".

Once in a great while I almost wish I had a vagina so I could go bang a rich dude and rape him for everything he's worked for, but them I come to my senses and I realize I'd never want to be such a lowlife reptile.

When people get a divorce the one who makes an assload of money shouldn't have to give up a fucking thing.

Child support is one thing, but this is complete horseshit.

This is sickening. She can't live with him anymore? Then she shouldn't live with the benefits of their union anymore either. Quite that simple. Sustenance while she gets back on her feet, sure, help support the kid, sure, but what on earth is she gonna do with 300k a MONTH? (yeah, I read the post, I know what she listed, it's just too surreal to believe)

It's times like these that make me wish I was a judge :)

Nisses, judges are not about justice, they are about interpriting the letter of the law/constitution and predicents and implications of previous cases.

If you want to do something about this, don't be a judge, be a politician.

Unfuckingbelievable!!!!!

Lurkette, I appreciate your resistence to gender-neutralize the discussion, but I can't resist. This type of situation makes me sick. I run into stay at home women everyday in this swanky part of Sacramento. A majority of them are very good looking, wear very trendy skins, furs (in summer), and gaudy jewelry. However, most of the are dumb as a football bat, don't work, don't ever plan on working, and spend the afternoons tanning and working out with their other rich, spoiled friends. Now, I have also heard of many divorces ending where the man loses a majority of his finances because she has to continue getting her nails done on a weekly basis, has to keep up with the botox treatments, has to continue the $10,000 per week shoe shopping sprees. If pisses me off because, as a society, we are trying to move towards a gender equal society and it is women like this that continue to keep us apart. Get up off your asses, learn a trade, and stop taking life for granted.

Personally i think she's probably entitled to some form of maintainence income, but sure as balls not 300k/month!!!!!

In Indiana, a divorce decree is a 50/50 split of marital assets and you'll be hard pressed to find a maintaince agreement that was ordered by a judge. Most alimony that is paid is through a settlement between the parties involved outside of the court system. Seems completely fair to me. Of course i'm not worth hundreds of millions of dollars either. If my g/f and i were married, she'd be paying ME off after the divorce.

I cannot for the life of me see why any person should be responsibe for any other person after they are divorced. Child support is one thing, that is a shared responsibility and should be treated as such financially. But alimony is just another word for "here, bend over and let me get you really good" IMHO

This is the kind of shit that makes those of us who have some dignity and self respect wear the bad rap. What is it that makes anybody think someone "owes" them for time spent together? You don't get paid to be in a relationship, why should you get paid when the relationship ends???? And gifts 5K??? WTF??? Why would he be responsible to buy gifts for others from her???

This just infuriates the hell out of me! I work damned hard for what I have, I earn my way, and I am proud of that. The only person who is responsible for my well being and lifestyle is ME. (wow! what a concept!) I didn't stand in front of a judge and in a prissy whiney voice say "but sir, I just HAVE to have my spa treatment once a month" PULEEESE! Get off your lazy uptown ass and get a job!

Rant complete....

I shouldn't have read this just before dinner...

lowlife irrational behavior such as this makes me absolutely sick.

So angel, is a prenup out of the question for you then?

If you are going into a marriage making arrangements on what you are going to do when it ends...you have already failed it in my opinion. Prenups are a very personal decision and agreement and I believe it varies from person to person. It is not something I would personally consider. But then again, I don't have millions to consider losing because of bitches like her. *shrugs*

My thoughts exactly. I believe there is something wrong with the institution of marraige if "prenup" is even a consederation between two people. What happened to the gool 'ol days when people stuck together through thick and thin?

Starfucking pays.

I really agreee with Chris Rock:

A large part of Rock's act deals with alimony - and the bad deals he thinks most men get in divorces because their wives are "accustomed" to a certain lifestyle.

"You go to a restaurant," he says. "You're accustomed to eatin'. You leave, you ain't eatin' no more. They don't owe you a steak."

I can. Marriage is supposed to be a life long partnership and you make decisions based on that and you should be entitled to the benifits of that partnership. We have no idea how much of Lionel's success if because of his Ex. I know I wouldn't have the job I have now if it wasn't for my then girlfriend now wife.

On the flip side I'm A-OK with prenups. Just another clause in the partnership contract and they should be used to protect Family and Heritage property that happens to be official owned by one person but actaully belongs to an entire family.

This is why I'm never fucking getting married.

Christ... just because someone someone was accustomed to living off the money of their spouse does not grant them the right to that money after the marriage is nulled. Let his wife take a real job and earn her own cash.