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Old 03-02-2004, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pickled dragon!

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A pickled "dragon" that looks as if it might once have flown around Harry Potter's Hogwarts has been found in a garage in Oxfordshire, England.

The baby dragon, in a sealed jar, was discovered with a metal tin containing paperwork in old-fashioned German of the 1890s.

Allistair Mitchell, who was asked to investigate the dragon by a friend, David Hart, who discovered it in his garage, speculates that German scientists may have attempted to use the dragon to hoax their English counterparts at the end of the 19th century, when rivalry between the countries was intense.

"At the time, scientists were the equivalent of today's pop stars. It would have been a great propaganda coup for the Germans if it had come off," Mr Mitchell said.

"I've shown the photos to someone from Oxford University and he thought it was amazing. Obviously he could not say if it was real and wanted to do a biopsy."

The documents suggest that the Natural History Museum turned the dragon away, possibly because they suspected it was a trick, and sent it to be destroyed. But it appears a porter intercepted the jar and took it home. The papers suggest the porter may have been Frederick Hart - David Hart's grandfather.

Mr Mitchell said: "The dragon is flawless, from the tiny teeth to the umbilical cord. It could be made from indiarubber, because Germany was the world's leading manufacturer of it at the time, or it could be made of wax. It has to be fake. No one has ever proved scientifically that dragons exist. But everyone who sees it immediately asks, 'Is it real?"'

Some scientists believe that dragons, though the product of imagination, were inspired by the extraordinary creatures that once roamed the Earth.

As J.K.Rowling's alter ego Hermione Granger once suggested, legends have a basis in fact.
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Old 03-02-2004, 05:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's an awesome piece of forgery for 1890.
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Old 03-02-2004, 05:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Isn't anybody gioing to scientifically examine it or anything? I know the chances of it being a dragon are .000000001%, but they should analyze it to make sure.
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i'd like to see more pictures of it.
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i'd like to see more pictures of it.
me too!
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pretty sweet trick.
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Whodathunkit? Dragons have umbilicle cords! I always thought they hatched out of eggs.

Not sure about a biopsy though, I'd rather it stayed in the jar; what's the point in cutting it up when nobody seriously believes it's anything other than moulded rubber in brine?
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Old 03-02-2004, 09:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"At the time, scientists were the equivalent of today's pop stars.
So did Marie Curie ever make out with S. Josephine Baker at the Nobel Prize ceremonies?
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Old 03-02-2004, 09:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Whodathunkit? Dragons have umbilicle cords! I always thought they hatched out of eggs.

Not sure about a biopsy though, I'd rather it stayed in the jar; what's the point in cutting it up when nobody seriously believes it's anything other than moulded rubber in brine?
Umbilical cords are also in animals that are hatched out of eggs. the umbilical cord connects the fetus to a placenta or other source or nourishment. If you were to see the development of chicken you'd see the umbilical cord connected from the fetus to the yolk sack.

BTW.. is there any link as to where this orignates form?
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Interesting article. If there was really any doubt about it's authenticity, that little dragon would have been cut up a thousand times already. Has to be fake.
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, very impressive for that time period to fake something that well. Of course, the fanatasy and supernatural lover in me wants to believe its real.
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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thats pretty crazy... i would like the person who owns it to let it be tested... the amount they would need to test it would be so little, it wouldnt damage it, if it happens to be a hoax
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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yeah they could just pull it outta the jar and feel to see if it was rubber or whatever.....but it's definitely cool lookin
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind havong one to keep for myself. It would be a great conversation starter.
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind havong one to keep for myself. It would be a great conversation starter.
exactly what some of my collegues said.

which makes me think that if I could manufacture this for a few pennies, put them into a jar of suspended liquid, label it like it was a specimen, charge a small fortune for it, looks like i'd have the 21st century Pet Rock.

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Old 03-02-2004, 02:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I really WANT it to be real...
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Old 03-02-2004, 03:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Haha, once they open the jar it'll jump out and take over the world.
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Old 03-02-2004, 03:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm not saying its true, but I'm not going to try and disprove it either. Although it is strange that that vile disappeared 2 days after that was posted, there have been articles coming up recently suggesting that a dragon like animal once lived. I can't find any of them now, but I'll keep looking.
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Old 03-02-2004, 03:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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dragons do exist.
see, Komodo Dragons, Water Dragons etc...

but this is just some great piece forgery/art.
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Old 03-02-2004, 05:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind havong one to keep for myself. It would be a great conversation starter.
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exactly what some of my collegues said.

which makes me think that if I could manufacture this for a few pennies, put them into a jar of suspended liquid, label it like it was a specimen, charge a small fortune for it, looks like i'd have the 21st century Pet Rock.
Reminds me of the alleged head of Joaquin Murieta making the rounds in the jar in 19th century California.
People payed money to look at it, too.
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I really WANT it to be real...

Me too!! I love the idea of it all
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Old 03-17-2004, 09:31 AM   #22 (permalink)
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