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onetime2 · 02-12-2004, 07:11 AM

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey...7048395190.xml

Teen in custody, $122,000 BMW missing

Jersey City youth accused of swindling Ohio dealer out of luxury car

Thursday, February 12, 2004

BY MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JERSEY JOURNAL

A Jersey City high school student is in custody after allegedly conning an Ohio car dealership into shipping him a $122,000 BMW and delivering it to him at Dickinson High School, officials said yesterday.

"I don't think we have ever had one like this. It's unique," Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Gregory Tomczak said.

The boy, who was not identified, was 16 when he allegedly phoned Midwestern Auto Group in Dublin, Ohio, in early January to order the flashy, 12-cylinder BMW 760il, according to police reports.

He told the salesperson he would wire the money for the car, and would have his bank call the dealership to confirm the transaction once it went through, authorities said.

The dealership mailed the paperwork to the boy's home in Jersey City and he filled it out and sent it back, according to police reports. A few days later, the boy allegedly called the dealership pretending to be a bank official and "confirmed" the nonexistent transfer of $122,000, reports said.

The boy turned 17 on Jan. 13, and like a late birthday present, the shiny new sports car was delivered to his school two weeks later, reports said.

Apparently satisfied, the boy ordered a second BMW from the dealership that same day, reports said.

Also on Jan. 27, the Ohio dealership got a report from its own bank, informing it that the car payment never came through, officials said.

The dealership called the Dublin Police Department and reported the car stolen.

The boy drove the car for a couple of days, but, believing a second free car was on its way, decided to sell it. On Jan. 29, he went to the Best Price Motor Co. on Kennedy Boulevard in Jersey City, allegedly offering to sell the $122,000 car for about $75,000.

A representative of the dealership said he was interested, but could not make a deal with a minor.

The boy let him make copies of the car's Ohio title and his own Dickinson student ID card, saying he would return with his uncle, reports said.

After he left, the salesperson called the Ohio dealership and was informed the car was stolen, reports said.

The Jersey City Police Department's Auto Theft Unit got involved and after speaking to Dublin police, set up surveillance at the boy's home to try to spot the BMW, reports said.

After two days of seeing no sign of the vehicle, police said they knocked on the door of the boy's home and spoke to his mother and explained the situation. The mother cooperated with police, calling her son and asking him to come home; police arrested him when he arrived, reports said.

With the boy in custody, police learned they were no closer to recovering the BMW. The boy said he sold the car for $40,000 to a used car dealer in North Carolina, who drove up to Jersey City and drove back south in the car, reports said.

The Jersey City Police Department's Juvenile Bureau charged the boy with theft by deception. He remains in the county youth house in Secaucus.

Neither the $40,000 nor the BMW have been recovered.

Representatives of Midwestern Auto Group and Best Price Motor Co. each confirmed the alleged scam, but refused to comment on it.

If a dealership is willing to ship a car to someone without verifying that they were paid, they deserve to lose it.

Cynthetiq · 02-12-2004, 07:37 AM

stupid

shakran · 02-12-2004, 07:38 AM

why are they calling a 760 a sports car?

Nisses · 02-12-2004, 07:40 AM

jikes if he'd been a little more careful, he could probably have gotten away with it... Silly, silly representatives...

Anyway, the kid should find a job which involves alot of social engineering, he has a knack for it

troit · 02-12-2004, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by shakran
why are they calling a 760 a sports car?

Have you ever driven a 7 series BMW? As the proud owner of one I can tell you it handles like a sports car...

onetime2 · 02-12-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by troit
Have you ever driven a 7 series BMW? As the proud owner of one I can tell you it handles like a sports car...

Especially a 12 cylinder model.

shakran · 02-12-2004, 08:12 AM

it's a sport sedan. Nothing that large is a sports car

Halx · 02-12-2004, 09:41 AM

it's a sports/performance/luxury sedan that makes my heart go flutter

bad move on the kid's side.. gave out too much info and got a little too greedy.

Cynthetiq · 02-12-2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Halx
it's a sports/performance/luxury sedan that makes my heart go flutter

bad move on the kid's side.. gave out too much info and got a little too greedy.

with today's computer systems... he was done before he even started.

how'd he ever register the vehicle? get insurance?

could he sell it on the black market? sure... that's about it.

skysooner · 02-12-2004, 10:45 AM

This kind of worries me actually. I have issues when I call someplace and just identify myself by name, and they give me information that could be construed as private. I prefer better security than that.

The dealership deserved this. It was absolutely stupid to do business in this way. It isn't like it is hard to check out their accounts online.

absorbentishe · 02-12-2004, 11:31 AM

Unfortunately, but if the dealership was that dumb not to look into it further, then they should be out. He stole the car, yes, but no. If the dealer would have just looked at his bank before he sent the thing, then this wouldn't have happened. Then as dumb as the kid was, he got stupid.

water_boy1999 · 02-12-2004, 11:53 AM

With a little training, this kid would be great at sales. A little rough around the edges perhaps, not to mention a bit greedy, but all in all, seems like a very bright kid.

The dealership should be out of a vehicle for being stupid enough to get juped by a 17 year old. Hahahaha!!!

chrisg299 · 02-12-2004, 12:15 PM

lol genius kid :-P sucks he got caught though hmmp

shakran · 02-12-2004, 12:35 PM

what th'. . .

because they were stupid, it's OK that someone stole from them?

Gee, I guess if a girl wears a short skirt and walks down an alley after dark she deserves to get raped.

The dealership didn't deserve it. Could have done more to prevent it maybe, but they don't deserve it.

Cycler · 02-12-2004, 01:03 PM

Wow let it go without seeing the money first. The phone call was priceless yeah this is "Rip You Off Bank" money is on the way ship the car please. Damn that is some kid. Going to be in alot of trouble.

Arbiestsheft04 · 02-12-2004, 01:55 PM

Make us proud fellow Jerseyan. Seriously, what was he thinking when he asked for another? Did he think they would fall for it twice?

ironchef82 · 02-12-2004, 02:58 PM

I wonder... shouldn't red flags be going up when you see a 17 year old kid driving a nice BMW like that? Is this some sort of rich neighborhood?

onetime2 · 02-12-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ironchef82
I wonder... shouldn't red flags be going up when you see a 17 year old kid driving a nice BMW like that? Is this some sort of rich neighborhood?

Couldn't be farther from a rich neighborhood. Jersey City is rough to put it mildly.

mingusfingers · 02-12-2004, 05:53 PM

Wow. Now that's a scam. I would sell for, say, 75000, say I sold it for 40000, and hide the rest.

Aletheia · 02-12-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
stupid

Sums up my thoughts on the dealer and kid alike.

H12 · 02-12-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cynthetiq
with today's computer systems... he was done before he even started.

how'd he ever register the vehicle? get insurance?

could he sell it on the black market? sure... that's about it.

Exactly.

moonstrucksoul · 02-12-2004, 09:54 PM

that's a new one for sure, definately too greedy, what a fool.
he couldn't have thought he would get a way with.

xjumper84 · 02-12-2004, 09:57 PM

seems like they gave him the car.. kinda sounds like the kids from where i grew up... their parents just gave them cars.. but they didn't get fined

-Ever- · 02-12-2004, 10:14 PM

Wow! nice

Jam · 02-13-2004, 12:19 AM

well you guys say sucks he got caught... he coulda sold it for 80k... maybe hell get some time in joovy(sp) and maybe a fine for the 40k he said he sold it for, thus giving him a good head start in life... once hes out he could move down to mexico with his 40k and live like a king in paradise

ireallydontknow · 02-13-2004, 11:37 PM

got to give some credit to the kid.. he's not all stupid

TM875 · 02-14-2004, 04:46 PM

This kid is my new hero. He stole from the rich, super-conglomerate corporation and was able to profit from it. It's just too bad he didn't wait until he was older, though.

If he did this and he was on his own (ie: didn't have to go to school or answer to his parents), he could have driven the car far, far away and sold it. Not been caught, not been found out. With that money, he could have started a new life, kept on making deals, etc.

When he gets out of prison, he's going to be in very high demand.

illesturban · 02-14-2004, 05:19 PM

yeah you have to give it to this kid; it was pretty damn smart...until his ass got a little to cocky. But yeah this sounds like it's right out of a movie; I wouldn't be surprised if there WILL be a movie based on this; lol. Catch Me If You Can 2; lmaooooo

deepinjello · 02-14-2004, 08:27 PM

The dealership just boned this so hardcore. They were so happy to be making the profit on the car at sticker price that I doubt anyone gave it a second thought in the dealership. Props to the kid hope he doesn't get set <i>too</i> far up the river.

Parker · 02-15-2004, 01:09 PM

That is pretty awesome. He has to be a God in that school after that prank. Also, I can not believe that the dealership feel for that. What idiots?

jujueye · 02-15-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by onetime2

A few days later, the boy allegedly called the dealership pretending to be a bank official and "confirmed" the nonexistent transfer of $122,000, reports said.

Dealers. Serves 'em right for believing it. HAhaha. Too bad that kid was so god damned greedy to try to get another one.

By the way: WHERE ARE THE PARENTS IN THIS STORY? WTF??????

Dad: Hey son, nice car.
Son: Thanks dad, I bought it with the money I saved from delivering newspapers.
Dad: Atta boy.

02-12-2004, 07:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	High School Teen Scams $122,000 BMW http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey...7048395190.xml Teen in custody, $122,000 BMW missing Jersey City youth accused of swindling Ohio dealer out of luxury car Thursday, February 12, 2004 BY MICHAELANGELO CONTE JERSEY JOURNAL A Jersey City high school student is in custody after allegedly conning an Ohio car dealership into shipping him a $122,000 BMW and delivering it to him at Dickinson High School, officials said yesterday. "I don't think we have ever had one like this. It's unique," Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Gregory Tomczak said. The boy, who was not identified, was 16 when he allegedly phoned Midwestern Auto Group in Dublin, Ohio, in early January to order the flashy, 12-cylinder BMW 760il, according to police reports. He told the salesperson he would wire the money for the car, and would have his bank call the dealership to confirm the transaction once it went through, authorities said. The dealership mailed the paperwork to the boy's home in Jersey City and he filled it out and sent it back, according to police reports. A few days later, the boy allegedly called the dealership pretending to be a bank official and "confirmed" the nonexistent transfer of $122,000, reports said. The boy turned 17 on Jan. 13, and like a late birthday present, the shiny new sports car was delivered to his school two weeks later, reports said. Apparently satisfied, the boy ordered a second BMW from the dealership that same day, reports said. Also on Jan. 27, the Ohio dealership got a report from its own bank, informing it that the car payment never came through, officials said. The dealership called the Dublin Police Department and reported the car stolen. The boy drove the car for a couple of days, but, believing a second free car was on its way, decided to sell it. On Jan. 29, he went to the Best Price Motor Co. on Kennedy Boulevard in Jersey City, allegedly offering to sell the $122,000 car for about $75,000. A representative of the dealership said he was interested, but could not make a deal with a minor. The boy let him make copies of the car's Ohio title and his own Dickinson student ID card, saying he would return with his uncle, reports said. After he left, the salesperson called the Ohio dealership and was informed the car was stolen, reports said. The Jersey City Police Department's Auto Theft Unit got involved and after speaking to Dublin police, set up surveillance at the boy's home to try to spot the BMW, reports said. After two days of seeing no sign of the vehicle, police said they knocked on the door of the boy's home and spoke to his mother and explained the situation. The mother cooperated with police, calling her son and asking him to come home; police arrested him when he arrived, reports said. With the boy in custody, police learned they were no closer to recovering the BMW. The boy said he sold the car for $40,000 to a used car dealer in North Carolina, who drove up to Jersey City and drove back south in the car, reports said. The Jersey City Police Department's Juvenile Bureau charged the boy with theft by deception. He remains in the county youth house in Secaucus. Neither the $40,000 nor the BMW have been recovered. Representatives of Midwestern Auto Group and Best Price Motor Co. each confirmed the alleged scam, but refused to comment on it. If a dealership is willing to ship a car to someone without verifying that they were paid, they deserve to lose it. __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

02-12-2004, 07:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	stupid __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

02-12-2004, 07:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nisses Shade Location: Belgium	jikes if he'd been a little more careful, he could probably have gotten away with it... Silly, silly representatives... Anyway, the kid should find a job which involves alot of social engineering, he has a knack for it __________________ Moderation should be moderately moderated.

02-12-2004, 09:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	it's a sports/performance/luxury sedan that makes my heart go flutter bad move on the kid's side.. gave out too much info and got a little too greedy. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

02-12-2004, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	With a little training, this kid would be great at sales. A little rough around the edges perhaps, not to mention a bit greedy, but all in all, seems like a very bright kid. The dealership should be out of a vehicle for being stupid enough to get juped by a 17 year old. Hahahaha!!! __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson

02-12-2004, 07:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	why are they calling a 760 a sports car?

02-12-2004, 08:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	it's a sport sedan. Nothing that large is a sports car

02-12-2004, 10:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
skysooner Registered User Location: Oklahoma	This kind of worries me actually. I have issues when I call someplace and just identify myself by name, and they give me information that could be construed as private. I prefer better security than that. The dealership deserved this. It was absolutely stupid to do business in this way. It isn't like it is hard to check out their accounts online.

02-12-2004, 11:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
absorbentishe Boy am I horny today Location: T O L E D O, Toledo!!	Unfortunately, but if the dealership was that dumb not to look into it further, then they should be out. He stole the car, yes, but no. If the dealer would have just looked at his bank before he sent the thing, then this wouldn't have happened. Then as dumb as the kid was, he got stupid.

02-12-2004, 12:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
chrisg299 Tilted	lol genius kid :-P sucks he got caught though hmmp

02-12-2004, 12:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	what th'. . . because they were stupid, it's OK that someone stole from them? Gee, I guess if a girl wears a short skirt and walks down an alley after dark she deserves to get raped. The dealership didn't deserve it. Could have done more to prevent it maybe, but they don't deserve it.

02-12-2004, 01:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cycler Float on.... Alright Location: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains, i.e. Oklahoma	Wow let it go without seeing the money first. The phone call was priceless yeah this is "Rip You Off Bank" money is on the way ship the car please. Damn that is some kid. Going to be in alot of trouble. __________________ "I'm not even supposed to be here today." "I assure you we're open."

02-12-2004, 01:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
Arbiestsheft04 Upright Location: NJ	Make us proud fellow Jerseyan. Seriously, what was he thinking when he asked for another? Did he think they would fall for it twice? __________________ Generic amusing expression of boredom and disdain.

02-12-2004, 02:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
ironchef82 Banned Location: Tucson	I wonder... shouldn't red flags be going up when you see a 17 year old kid driving a nice BMW like that? Is this some sort of rich neighborhood?

02-12-2004, 05:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
mingusfingers Psycho Location: uhhhh	Wow. Now that's a scam. I would sell for, say, 75000, say I sold it for 40000, and hide the rest. __________________ Still Looking

02-12-2004, 10:14 PM	#24 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	Wow! nice __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses--

02-12-2004, 09:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
moonstrucksoul hovering in the distance Location: the land of milk and honey	that's a new one for sure, definately too greedy, what a fool. he couldn't have thought he would get a way with. __________________ no signature required

02-12-2004, 09:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
xjumper84 Upright	seems like they gave him the car.. kinda sounds like the kids from where i grew up... their parents just gave them cars.. but they didn't get fined

02-13-2004, 12:19 AM	#25 (permalink)
Jam Junkie	well you guys say sucks he got caught... he coulda sold it for 80k... maybe hell get some time in joovy(sp) and maybe a fine for the 40k he said he sold it for, thus giving him a good head start in life... once hes out he could move down to mexico with his 40k and live like a king in paradise

02-13-2004, 11:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
ireallydontknow Insane Location: San Jose, CA	got to give some credit to the kid.. he's not all stupid

02-14-2004, 04:46 PM	#27 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	This kid is my new hero. He stole from the rich, super-conglomerate corporation and was able to profit from it. It's just too bad he didn't wait until he was older, though. If he did this and he was on his own (ie: didn't have to go to school or answer to his parents), he could have driven the car far, far away and sold it. Not been caught, not been found out. With that money, he could have started a new life, kept on making deals, etc. When he gets out of prison, he's going to be in very high demand. __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

02-14-2004, 05:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	yeah you have to give it to this kid; it was pretty damn smart...until his ass got a little to cocky. But yeah this sounds like it's right out of a movie; I wouldn't be surprised if there WILL be a movie based on this; lol. Catch Me If You Can 2; lmaooooo

02-14-2004, 08:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
deepinjello Insane Location: Where everyone knows my name	The dealership just boned this so hardcore. They were so happy to be making the profit on the car at sticker price that I doubt anyone gave it a second thought in the dealership. Props to the kid hope he doesn't get set <i>too</i> far up the river. __________________ "Hike up your skirt and show the world to me"

02-15-2004, 01:09 PM	#30 (permalink)
Parker Crazy	That is pretty awesome. He has to be a God in that school after that prank. Also, I can not believe that the dealership feel for that. What idiots?