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Reese 01-16-2004 05:46 PM

Save Disney and Other things Disney.
 
As most of you know Roy E. Disney resigned from Disney, Requesting that Michael Eisner also resigned, but as of yet, He's still running the company into the ground.

http://www.savedisney.com/ Is a website started by Roy E. Disney and there's a petition to have Mr. Eisner resign as CEO of Walt Disney Corp. I know most petitions don't usually do any good, but it's just a name, if you care anything at all about disney please read the website nd please sign the petition. The website has lots of information about why Roy Disney and Stan Gold resigned, What Michael Eisner is doing to the company, and read letter roy has sent to people, and letter's the website has recieved.

Also There's a new company formed of disney's Former 2d animation teams Called Legacy Animation studios Here's a press release:

Quote:

ORLANDO, FLORIDA (January 8, 2004) – Legacy Animation Studios, a new animation production studio in Orlando Florida, opens its doors in Winter Garden, Florida close to Orlando later this month. The studio will offer a full-range of traditional hand drawn (or 2D) animation services for film, television and commercials. Legacy was established by a group of animators and artists formerly employed by Walt Disney Feature Animation Florida. Legacy will also be dedicated to developing original properties for television and film. In time the studio hopes to produce its first feature film project.

“We believe that traditionally animated films are still a viable form of entertainment,” says Legacy Animation Studios Directing Manager, Eddie Pittman. “Our goal is to create quality animated films with compelling stories and strong characters and to continue Walt Disney’s legacy of hand drawn animation.”

The Legacy team has the talent to back up their claim, with the combined experience of over 25 animated films including The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Mulan and Lilo& Stitch.

Pittman has worked on such animated features as Mulan, Tarzan, and Lilo & Stitch. He has taught for the renowned Computer Animation program at Ringling School of Art and Design, and his popular drawing classes taught around Central Florida have been recommended to aspiring animators by Walt Disney Feature Animation Florida. Recently, he directed Legends of the Night Sky: Orion, the world’s first full dome (360°) traditionally animated movie for AV-Imagineering.

Also joining the management team as Creative Director is veteran assistant animator David Nethery. Nethery has nearly 20 years of experience as an animation artist, most of those years at Walt Disney Feature Animation. His credits include such characters as "Meeko” the raccoon from Pocahontas, "Mushu” from Mulan, "Cobra Bubbles” from Lilo & Stitch, and most recently "Tug" and "Koda's Mom” from Brother Bear.

Legacy currently has three projects in development including a short film that will begin production in late January 2004.
There's another Disney Related Story HERE I won't quote it since this post is already large enough.

Save Disney!

Kaos 01-16-2004 05:54 PM

Ummm...how is Disney getting "run into the ground?"

Maybe they should think of selling their damn videos instead of "putting them into the vault"

:rolleyes:

yakimushi 01-16-2004 06:14 PM

Disney has lost their pioneering spirit, instead letting Pixar do all the work.

If Disney continues on their current path, they are going to be in a world of shit when Pixars contract is up. I can't see Pixar staying leashed to Disney with all the success Pixar has had.

Just my $.02

WhoaitsZ 01-16-2004 07:40 PM

helping disney would be like supporting lucifer. no can do.

the company went evil decades ago. fuck disney!

sailor 01-16-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
helping disney would be like supporting lucifer. no can do.

the company went evil decades ago. fuck disney!

I agree. The Disney of old is dead. The Disney around now is no different than any other exploitive corporation.

That said, I hate that they did away with their animation studios. I am glad that the animators formed their own studio however, and I wish them luck in the future.

TM875 01-16-2004 08:25 PM

Fuck Disney. They've screwed us over so many times, it's just become a joke.

They run the commercial/industrialized world. I say, let them die a quick and painful death.









Yes, I would love to attach Mickey's mouse balls to a car battery. Just give me his address, and the boy is mine.

Jam 01-16-2004 08:50 PM

someone fill me in... hat did disney do?

PorscheBunny 01-16-2004 09:04 PM

Disney doesn't need to be saved, it needs to be buried or cremated. It's already the dead and rotting corpse of what it had been.

The real Disney died when they started releasing all those direct-to-video ripoff "sequels" of successful movies. The Lion King was the last movie made before Disney truly died.

anleja 01-16-2004 10:55 PM

http://www.gorenight.com/movies/pulpf/data/pf5.jpg
Don't forget who gave us this magical scene...

BlueBongo 01-17-2004 12:00 AM

EH... I have to agree that Disney has gone gruesomely downhill since Walt's passing and with the death of many of the companies strongest assets.. anymore I do feel it's kinda lame.

Walt Disney started a great thing... but anymore it's sort of lame, isn't the same thing I grew up with.

But good luck with the petition, I just know my signature won't be there. The cause is definently a good one to keep the name of disney around... but I do feel that Disney is just a name that will always be a part of American History but the company itself just needs to go.

Reese 01-17-2004 03:30 AM

Backlash against disney! run!!
I think everyone misunderstands what Save disney means. We want the magic that disney once had to come back, No one likes where disney is going, That's the reason behind the petition.

onodrim 01-17-2004 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaos
Maybe they should think of selling their damn videos instead of "putting them into the vault"

:rolleyes:

I agree.

bermuDa 01-17-2004 05:03 PM

on the other hand, there are a lot of disney videos that should never have seen the light of day...

spived2 01-18-2004 08:04 AM

Who cares if disney stays around? as long as SOMEONE makes good wholesome films for the children to enjoy, then all wll be well. I grew up on disney movies, but if it was another studio or whatever producing them and they were the same good quality, It wouldn't have mattered one or another because it's just a movie regardless of who made it.

milkyp 01-18-2004 10:11 AM

I would hate to see Disney go under....

Lucky for me, I get to go to Disney world a least once yearly, i could careless about the movies as long as the park is fine.

Lebell 01-18-2004 11:40 AM

Those of you who are complaining about Disney and how they've become a souless corporation should visit Roy Disney's site, http://www.savedisney.com/ .

Please sign his petition to get Eisner to resign so that maybe, just maybe, Disney can be saved.

YourNeverThere 01-19-2004 04:10 AM

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney.html

bonehed1 01-19-2004 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
helping disney would be like supporting lucifer. no can do.

the company went evil decades ago. fuck disney!

ROFL....I couldn't agree more WhoaitsZ

omega2K4 01-19-2004 10:12 PM

Fuck Disney. Crash and burn you wretched sons of bitches.

tritium 01-19-2004 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YourNeverThere
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney.html
I want to see the Jessica Rabbit shot a little better.

Cynthetiq 01-20-2004 08:08 AM

working for a media giant and having family that also works for a media giant, Disney. I also worked for the Mouse at one time, I can elaborate on many points about them.

Eisner is NOT driving the company into the ground. The other week they had some of the best financial news ever. Last year's stock growth was some of the highest the company has seen.

Disney doesn't just put out kids films. Look at Miramax, Touchstone, and Hollywood Pictures for some of the other areas that Disney has transformed.

As far as animation is concerned, yes they did get rid of their 2D animators, but if you look at the history of the company the 2D animation group has grown and contracted on a very REGULAR basis.

After going to Disneyland and California Adventrue, the original park has lost some of it's cache over time, but it's still entertaining and was wonderful to see the kids frolick to the plushies that were walking about. California Adventure was a bit more adult, serving beer and wine, which the original park does not do. CA was though desolate as far as theme parks go. Attendance is not doing great.

Eisner saved Disney in the late 80s and continues to keep the company profitable, if he didn't the board of directors would have already run him out since the investors would have demanded such action.

powder 01-20-2004 08:17 AM

Fuck disney. Just another money grubbing mega corp.

denim 01-20-2004 08:39 AM

I don't like what they've done to the copyright laws. Specifically, they've lengthened the time a copyright is in effect, as otherwise their precious mouse character would have left their control a few years ago. Tough shit, IMO. They seem to have forgotten that they're supposed to create something new.

japhyryder 01-20-2004 10:19 AM

I think the media giants are slowing grinding to nothingness, the small new groups are going to takeover the quality production for a while then they will get sucked up with the media giants

Dano069 01-20-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
helping disney would be like supporting lucifer. no can do.

the company went evil decades ago. fuck disney!

Amen brother, Amen! :lol:

denim 01-20-2004 11:43 AM

It's not like Disney is some kind of divine thing. They only came up with Mickey Mouse et al. They had nothing to do with the divine Bugs Bunny. Their recent work has been nothing to write home about. Shrek (was it theirs?) sucked ass, especially compared with Monsters Inc..

mattevil 01-20-2004 12:59 PM

I will support a disney that stops putting out unnecesary sequals.I will support a disney that doesn't sue eveything in sight. I will support a disney that actually gives HK films some love(Shaolin soccer anyone?).I will support a disney that will release song of the south and fantasia uncut(Note: I'm not a rabid racist I just like things uncut and I think the original version should be seen so we can examine the stereotypes at that time in history ). until then no sale!

punx1325 01-20-2004 01:08 PM

The two things that piss me off about Disney are 1) the direct to video movies. I can't stand watching a sequel with completely different people. It just ruins the entire movie and is a sad ass attempt at making money. And 2) Califonia Adventure, WHAT THE FUCK were they thinking. That has to be the shittiest amusement park I have ever visited. I should have taken my 50 bucks and burnt it, atleast then I would have seen something entertaining.

Reese 01-21-2004 03:36 AM

Cynthetiq, you make some good points. When Eisner first started running the company things were pretty good. Maybe "running the company into the ground" was a bit harsh. The quality of disney has gone down, and the companys management is to blame. Disney is making it's money off trust now and pretty soon people are going to quit trusting them and the stock is going to fall. The shareholders don't care, They'll milk it until it's dry then sell it and move on to the next company.

yakimushi 01-21-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by denim
It's not like Disney is some kind of divine thing. They only came up with Mickey Mouse et al. They had nothing to do with the divine Bugs Bunny. Their recent work has been nothing to write home about. Shrek (was it theirs?) sucked ass, especially compared with Monsters Inc..
Shrek was by Dreamworks studios, while Monsters Inc. was by Pixar, who is contracted by Disney.

denim 01-21-2004 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by yakimushi
Shrek was by Dreamworks studios, while Monsters Inc. was by Pixar, who is contracted by Disney.
But Disney only acted as distributer, no? Given some of their work, Disney could go away and the only problem would be what to do with the amusement parks.


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