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Old 01-16-2004, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mom Accused Of Injecting Human Waste Into Daughter
Test Results Show IV Fluid Contained Substance Consistent With Fecal Matter

POSTED: 11:50 AM EST January 16, 2004
UPDATED: 12:59 PM EST January 16, 2004

INDIANAPOLIS -- A 33-year-old mother is accused of repeatedly injecting human waste into her 21-month-old daughter to get attention, according to a report.

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Tracie L. Fleck, 33, of Highland was being held Thursday in the Marion County Jail on $30,000 bond on 10 felony counts, including charges of aggravated battery and child neglect. Each count carries a penalty of from six to 20 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Indianapolis police arrested Fleck after she was videotaped tampering with her 21-month-old daughter's IV tube in a room at the Riley Hospital for Children, according to a court affidavit.

Fleck may suffer from Munchausen syndrome by proxy, a disorder in which people harm their own children in an attempt to get attention, said Dr. Roberta Hibbard, professor of pediatrics at Indiana University School of Medicine and director of child protection programs at Riley.

Hospital officials became suspicious when the child continued to develop infections after receiving treatment. Doctors told police that Fleck had brought her daughter to the hospital 11 times beginning last March.

Two infectious-disease doctors traced the infection to the girl's IV tube and lab reports indicated the infection had resulted from fecal matter, according to court documents.

A hidden video camera was placed in the toddler's room on Jan. 8 and recorded Fleck placing a hand in her pocket and then both hands on the IV tube or pump, police said. It was not clear who put the camera in the room.

When questioned by investigators, Fleck said she had filled a syringe with baby formula, water and a drug being used to treat the child and twice used it to inject her daughter's IV, according to the affidavit.

Family and Social Services Administration spokesman Scott MacGregor said he could not comment on whether child protection workers were involved with the family.


I know these stories get old, but god damn! What the hell would cause anyone to do this to their own child? I think that this stupid ass Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy is a bunch of horseshit. I'm always amazed at just how many people do shit like this. I have always, and will always think that people should have to get a license to have a child because too fucking many people who have no right to have children keep having them.
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Old 01-16-2004, 01:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, there's a fine line between mental illness and just plain cruelty. Please please please take the kid away. Oy.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I call shennanagins on Munchausen by Proxy. I've always thought that was a bullshit defense. If you're that screwed up that you do that, then you need to be put away anyways.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That lady should be burned at the stake....
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've always thought it should be "guilty by reason of insanity". You did it, but you need treatment, and if you can't be treated, you remain locked up.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, that is incredibly sad. I sincerely hope she is never allowed near children again.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Shoot her out of a cannon and be done with it.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've always thought it should be "guilty by reason of insanity". You did it, but you need treatment, and if you can't be treated, you remain locked up.
Amen -- for the safety of all innocent parties!
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I hate it when so called mental illnesses are always first suspected when a mother or father does something to their children. I mean look at the bitch that straped her kids in their carseats and drove it into the river. Susan Smith is standing in front of the media on national television saying please bring back my babies yadda yadda yadda. Investigators finally check out her story and come up with the conclusion that shes the one that killed her children. The reason she did so was cause the guy she was with didnt want the responsibility of raising another mans children.
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This is THE worst child abuse I think I've ever heard of. That's just plain SICK. It's beyond the inherent sickness of child abuse in general and it moves on into a whole new category of sickness!
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think she should get a shit-based IV for punishment.
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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She needs to visit a room with some nice padded walls. Seriously, what would possess a parent to do something like that to a child?

Anyhow, I agree....let's strap her down and hook up some IV's for her and see how she likes it.
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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When I see the child abuse that goes on, sometimes I think that bringing back death by public stoning in the town square isn't a bad idea. This is coming from someone who is anti-death penalty.
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Injecting shit into your kid...no "syndrome" is gonna make you come up with that. That's a warped bitch right there. And all these little disorders ppl have now that explain away their behavior is fucked. Mental Health is such a big industry they're inventing shit to treat it specially and charge more $$ or get kickbacks from pharm companies who play up to these disorers with special drugs that treat the symptoms of this dsiorder. Well I have Need Pussy Syndrome...I require sexual relations and pills to make me hot and have a 10 inch penis. I'm mentally ill HELP ME!!!
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Old 01-16-2004, 04:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Absolutely sick....
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Anyone who intentionally harms a child sholud be sent to prison, and forced to wear a T-Shirt that says "Shank me here" with an arrow pointing to their kidney.

No mental illness can forgive what this woman did to her child, she deserves to be put in a looney bin, and if she gets off with just that, she should consider herself lucky.
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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People should first have to get a permit to have sex or children...

Then, anyone that harms said children should have their eyeballs cauterized..
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Old 01-16-2004, 07:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thats just fucked up. That wacko seriously needs to have her head examined.
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I personaly like the " shoot her out of a cannon" idea from GH- hell, let the gov. make money out of it by running it on pay per view- and let contestants "aim " various horrible criminals at targets for fun and Glittering Prizes...... I've got a buddy that works at a max security state pen, and most of the people in there are not going to get "reformed" so in the case of heinous crimes, why not fuck them up with viscious style?
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Send that stupid bitch down here to the border and strip her of any ID and deport her ass to Mexico---then list her as a terroist--
let her live in hell for the rest of her life...
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Anyone who would do that to any child, nevermind their own, has absolutely no feelings towards any human being and is better off being seperated from society forever. I truly believe there is no real cure for anyone this sick. Put them on a rocket destined for the sun...
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Take a 55 gallon barrel, put her in, 100 lbs of Quik-Rete on top of her, add water to fill the barrel, seal, bury in an unmarked location, walk away.

Where is this child's father?

I have an 18 month old daughter. If anyone even tried to do that to her, I'd kill the fucker with my bare hands and dare a jury to convict me.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Remove her ovaries.
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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And to think that I have a close friend who would give nearly anything to be able to have a child and is struggling to get pregnant!
Then you have "people" (and I use that term VERY lightly) like this popping them out! It's a messed up thing! I hope that child will be placed in a loving and caring home.
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Old 01-17-2004, 12:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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i feel sick to my stomach, the thought that anyone could harm their own child, ( i know that it happens often ) is just so disturbing to me.
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Old 01-17-2004, 02:47 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Remove her ovaries.
That isn't punishment enough.
Women child abusers have the same life expectancy as male child abusers in max security prisons. About three months. Not even murders and nut jobs can stand a child abuser. That or slow painfull torture.
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:40 PM   #28 (permalink)
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That isn't punishment enough.
Women child abusers have the same life expectancy as male child abusers in max security prisons. About three months. Not even murders and nut jobs can stand a child abuser. That or slow painfull torture.
Well, I WAS going to finish that sentence with "...with a spoon."

Yeah, throw her in jail and keep that kid away from her for the rest of her life.
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Old 01-18-2004, 12:06 AM   #29 (permalink)
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That lady should be burned at the stake....
I think you mean to say that "BITCH." I dont think she need to be burned at the stake....

.....she'll die in a couple minutes, thats not enough punishment for what she did...this is where cruel and unsual punishment comes in and tortures the bitch slowly...sloowwwwwly...sloooooowwwwwwlyyyy...(ok u get the point) for a couple months or until she can't take it any more and bite her fucking tounges and bleed to death like that.
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edit: omg...she kinda resembles my U.S history teacher. kinda same hair cut, and same eyes..but my teacher was NICE...not same age...my teacher is like 50 now
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Old 01-18-2004, 12:28 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Shit I hope her daughter gets put in a home that the parents will actually give a flying fuck about her.......It amazes me that these people can even possibly exist.....
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Old 01-18-2004, 04:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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People with this syndrome see their children as just a means to get attention. They are self centered and horrible parents, and should be removed from the gene pool.
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Old 01-18-2004, 07:47 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I think she should get a shit-based IV for punishment.
Sounds like the perfect punishment to me. The punishment should fit the crime.
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Old 01-18-2004, 08:31 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Sadder still is that foster parents often will fuck the kid up even more. Not all foster parents, but many
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Old 01-18-2004, 08:45 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Anyone who intentionally harms a child sholud be sent to prison, and forced to wear a T-Shirt that says "Shank me here" with an arrow pointing to their kidney.
Run for president, rockzilla, because you just got my vote.
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:48 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I'm speachless. That's one of the most disturbing things I've ever read. I'm not a woman beater, but if i seen this chick walking down the street i'd have to kick her ass.
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:11 PM   #36 (permalink)
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What the fuck. In addition to how obviously disturbing and fucked up this story is, the fact that there's actually a *term* to describe her fucked up state of mind (apparently "Munchausen syndrome by proxy") is absolutely shocking to me.

I cannot understand how anyone could ever harm a child. Unbelievable.
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Old 01-20-2004, 01:55 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:35 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Where in the heck do these people come up with this stuff? Man.
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Old 01-20-2004, 04:25 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2004, 06:16 PM   #40 (permalink)
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