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aphex140 12-12-2003 08:36 AM

Peeing in the shower
 
A big debat has erupted at work.

IS IT OKAY TO PEE IN THE SHOWER,

I say it is if the shower plug is free of hair and you clean the shower afterwards.

Some people are having a serious fit about this. I can not see the problem I make a mness I clean it up simple.

I concede that if not clean up it might get stinky but hell what do you do soak the floor while jumping out the shower to go for a pee.

What are you opions.

Redlemon 12-12-2003 08:41 AM

Re: Peeing in the shower
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aphex140
I concede that if not clean up it might get stinky but hell what do you do soak the floor while jumping out the shower to go for a pee.
How long are you spending in the shower that you need to take a pee break? Anyway, I always void before showering.

feelgood 12-12-2003 08:53 AM

Water will always tell your body that it's ok to pee at that moment. Comon people who seriously doens't pee in the pool?


*silence*

Help me out peeps, I don't want to be labeled at the guy who loves to pee in public pool :D

Bloodslick 12-12-2003 09:15 AM

Urinating in the shower has never bothered me. As I see it, there are only two differences between the shower and the toilet in terms of peeing:[list=1][*]I stand in the shower, and[*]I don't defecate in the shower.[/list=1]
Point #2 cancels out any reservations I have with point #1.

GuttersnipeXL 12-12-2003 09:18 AM

I use the shower to get clean, not to stand in my own feces. What is the toilet for anyway? What's wrong with waiting a few minutes?

ninety09 12-12-2003 09:39 AM

There's a toilet just next to my shower! So I don't need to pee in the shower :\

bigjiggles 12-12-2003 09:40 AM

like my grandaddy said:
"it all goes to the same place"

dumbnutofak 12-12-2003 09:40 AM

Don't worry I pee in the shower. And The POOL ;) lol when you gotta go you gotta go, not like your dropping the kids off.

ironchef82 12-12-2003 09:50 AM

Another thing: if you pee in the shower, you save the water used for one flush of the toilet.

Bloodslick 12-12-2003 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dumbnutofak
lol when you gotta go you gotta go, not like your dropping the kids off.
Exactly. I generally aim for the drain anyway, so it's not even like I'm standing around in it. Where does the issue lie? In my laziness? I don't like stepping out of the shower onto a wet floor; the bathroom floor doesn't have a textured surface like the shower.

Lebell 12-12-2003 09:55 AM

FYI,

Urine is antiseptic.

Soldiers are advised to use it in the field if they get athlete's foot.

Ever since I learned that, I stopped worrying about it.

erion 12-12-2003 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell
FYI,

Urine is antiseptic.

Soldiers are advised to use it in the field if they get athlete's foot.

Ever since I learned that, I stopped worrying about it.

Yep. When we were taking our "learn how to have a baby" classes they told us Urine is nothing to worry about even if it gets ingested by an infant. It will have no harmful effects on your shower's sanitation whatsoever.

Reese 12-12-2003 09:58 AM

I don't pee in public pools, I actually seal off all my openings before swimming there.

I pee in the shower, Just pee down stream. Heh that reminds of my a movie where a Deer pissed in a creek and down stream was a water bottling factory...

The point is, you're not as clean as you think you are. Peeing in the shower is probably just a little cleaner since the stray piss from the shake gets washed off.

Shitting in the shower is a TOTALLY different matter...

absorbentishe 12-12-2003 10:04 AM

Got to pee, let it free! What's the issue about peeing in the shower, as long as it's not a golden shower, unless you're into that I guess. Some times the running water just makes you need to go, no need to get out, it all goes to the same place, and you won't have a wet floor.

BentNotTwisted 12-12-2003 10:04 AM

I think for most people it comes down to the ew factor. It doesn't bother me as the water is flowing down the drain so fast I doubt any of it would stick to the shower floor. Now as to why I don't just use the nearby toilet, when you get to a certain age (it varies from person to person) the urge to urinate hits you and there's not much to be done about it. When you gotta go, you gotta go.
Hearing about the antiseptic aspects of urine helps set my mind a bit more at ease as well, thanks Lebell.

Peryn 12-12-2003 10:48 AM

Do i pee in the shower? Who doesn't? If not for pee, whats the drain for? :D Anyway, damn right i piss in the shower. Aim for the drain and it never even touches your shower floor. The stream washes whatever hits outside the drain anyway. And i go when i first get in, so any soap washing off of me when i shower, hits the floor, and clean it on its way to the drain. Or maybe thats just how i rationalize it. Either way, i save the water of a toilet flush, and dont hafta worry about temp changes in the shower when the toilet flushes or finishes flushing. Plus it saves time.

Cynthetiq 12-12-2003 10:50 AM

already covered in this thread... I was going to merge it but you have a POLL...

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=23585

legolas 12-12-2003 01:00 PM

It is just discusting. I always go the bathroom right before I shower or go into a pool so i drained out everything already. It just doesn't seem right.

tritium 12-12-2003 01:08 PM

Its already sanitary when it comes out. Not a big deal...

I read somewhere that a significantly larger portion of women pee in the shower. Something outlandish like 2/3's or something as compared to 1/4 of men. Guess its because its more obvious when a man is urinating as we get a stream shooting out to one side. With women, it would just run down unnoticed against the streams of shower water...

WhoaitsZ 12-12-2003 02:32 PM

i should had posted the silly cliche thread i made here.

:rolleyes:

i'm so sick of this shit being in GD.

next we'll have another 'what time do you poop' question or something.

you guys have nonsense for a reason.

Cycler 12-12-2003 03:47 PM

Not a big deal, pee not to pee. What is the big deal it is not like anybody else uses my shower right now. Now if I was at some one elses house it all goes it the loo.<p>Oh and as far as this shit being in GD it is not shit, it's pee, so does that make it better?

Holo 12-12-2003 03:52 PM

Only If I just got in there and don't want to soak my bathrug with my hunky dripping wet body..oh sorry. ;).

I figure if you are washing anyway you end up with soap going down the drain after it so it cleans it up anyhow. :D

CS733t 12-12-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Castanza
They're pipes they all go to the same PLACE!!

I dont think it's a big deal

dumbnutofak 12-12-2003 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legolas
It is just discusting. I always go the bathroom right before I shower or go into a pool so i drained out everything already. It just doesn't seem right.
I can pee a million times before I get into a shower or pool. But still end up peeing during both. It's not like I walk in and go hmmm, i think I'll pee in the shower instead of the toilet to see what happens.

Scipio 12-12-2003 05:03 PM

Urine is not only antiseptic, it's STERILE. It's filtered through membranes in your kidneys. Sure, set a cup of the stuff out in the sun for a day and it'll rot, but as it comes out, your urine is every bit as clean as the water coming out of the faucet. We're just taught that it's dirty or whatever, and we have to keep it in the commode. That's practically always a good thing, but the point is, if you take a leak in the shower, and then chase it down the drain with 4 gallons of water, have you done any harm?

Personally, I sometimes gotta go during the old morning shower. Call it multitasking.

analog 12-12-2003 08:50 PM

Doesn't matter. I pee in the shower if I feel like i need to. It never even touches me, so why fuss over it?

Munku 12-12-2003 09:01 PM

I pee in the shower all the time, I just don't like to stand in it so I let it go down and then do what I need to do. :P

Spire 12-12-2003 09:26 PM

gotta pee gotta shower its saving time and lives

Gman 12-12-2003 11:09 PM

I'm not staying at any of your houses.

dumbnutofak 12-13-2003 01:12 AM

For those of you who say EEWWWW, Are you trying to tell me that you have NEVER peed in the shower? Girls would be different I would think...but comon guys, if you say no, then your lieing. so FESS UP.

World's King 12-13-2003 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
i should had posted the silly cliche thread i made here.

:rolleyes:

i'm so sick of this shit being in GD.

next we'll have another 'what time do you poop' question or something.

you guys have nonsense for a reason.

Z, I love you.

macro 12-13-2003 04:07 PM

Yep, peeing in the shower is all good. The only problem is when you need to go after the you've turned the water off. You've gotta aim for the plug, hold it in or turn the tap on again briefly. Yeah...

BuddyHawks 12-13-2003 05:02 PM

But what if you shower doubles as a bath tub? (and yes, people take bathes in it)
I say no peeing in a bath tub shower.

dnd 12-13-2003 05:05 PM

no way to peeing in shower...and anyway use the motto SSS

1. shit
2. shower
3. shave

no problems!

Mael 12-13-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dumbnutofak
For those of you who say EEWWWW, Are you trying to tell me that you have NEVER peed in the shower? Girls would be different I would think...but comon guys, if you say no, then your lieing. so FESS UP.

yeah... i think a guy saying "eww" to this is the same as a guy who doesn't masturbate. in otherwords, non-existant or lying. :)

EeOh1 12-13-2003 05:45 PM

Peeing in the shower also feels better. You know it does!

pocon1 12-13-2003 07:10 PM

I pee in the shower, and I wash my feet in the toilet. I use a bidet as a waterpik. If you shit in the shower, keep stomping. It will eventually go down.

tikki 12-13-2003 07:20 PM

Even if the water runs it through the spout, I don't want to be thinking about walking on the spot I just pissed. I can hold it until I get out of the shower...

floydthebarber 12-14-2003 04:06 PM

No big deal, our bodies can handle a lot worse than a bit of piss.

herostar 12-14-2003 05:23 PM

I think it's disgusting

suviko 12-15-2003 03:43 AM

Hey, people, do you realise the admins (mods too?) can see who answered what... :)

peacy 12-15-2003 04:50 AM

I don't care if it's antiseptic or sterile... Still no fuckin' way...

The order for me is always:
1. toilet
2. shower

NO mix and match...

shileno 12-15-2003 05:03 AM

i do pee in the shower ocassionally

Amethyst 12-17-2003 06:38 PM

That is the nastiest thing I have ever heard. I would never ever do that!

present_future 12-17-2003 08:34 PM

I don't do it. It kind of creeps me out.

hiredgun 12-18-2003 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dumbnutofak
For those of you who say EEWWWW, Are you trying to tell me that you have NEVER peed in the shower? Girls would be different I would think...but comon guys, if you say no, then your lieing. so FESS UP.
actually, i seriously haven't, ever. but i guess it doesn't bother me terribly. i have never given this issue any real thought before...

*spends next 10 years of life pondering shower urination*

jbrooks544 12-18-2003 10:26 AM

What the heck is wrong with pee? It is sterile, or practically so, and the water coming out of the shower drains it all away if just a few seconds. There is much worse stuff coming out your nose, if you blow it in the shower, or your spit. I assume that people wash their ass-cracks in the shower? This is much more dirty than a little pee flowing down. I never cease to be surprised at how prissy people are and how hung up about their bodies too. Anyone who is seriously weirded out by peeing in the shower just doesn't seem to be in touch with reality. There is no logical reason for it. Pee isn't bad for you and it washes right down the drain.

Sho Nuff 12-18-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bloodslick
Urinating in the shower has never bothered me. As I see it, there are only two differences between the shower and the toilet in terms of peeing:[list=1][*]I stand in the shower, and[*]I don't defecate in the shower.[/list=1]
Point #2 cancels out any reservations I have with point #1.

well said

water_boy1999 12-18-2003 11:28 AM

What's the big deal? You gotta go, you gotta go. The running water from the faucet keeps it clean anyways.

TequilaJr 12-18-2003 12:56 PM

It might be sterile, it might be antiseptic, it might be whatever you want it to be, those arguments won't convince me that peeing in the shower is ok. I pee before I go into the shower, so the urge doesn't ever really come up while I'm in there. As far as the people saying that every guy has done it, I call BS.

ForgottenKnight 12-18-2003 01:32 PM

Peeing in the shower is disgusting! Especially when it's also a bathtub, as mine is. Toilets are there for a reason! USE IT! And if you use it BEFORE using the shower, you shouldn't have any problem holding it until you're out of the shower!

bussman 12-18-2003 01:36 PM

Although it feels dirty, I must admit, I pee in the shower!

NeverBorn 12-18-2003 02:18 PM

Just piss in the drain..

HockeyGuy 12-18-2003 07:16 PM

Pee in Shower- yes, it's clean, all gets washed away anyways
Pool- No , personally somethign quiet wrong about that

smoothcap 12-18-2003 10:26 PM

Since the toliet is so close to the shower, I pee from the shower into the toilet. Takes aim and practice, but it is fun.

Just kidding. The wife was HORRIFIED to learn that I sometimes pee in the shower the other day. I was teasing her about blowing snot rockets while she was in there, and when I told her not to worry, that I peed in there she about kicked my ass.

tdoc 12-19-2003 08:02 PM

I won't hang out with people who won't pee in the shower.

Jaron 12-21-2003 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cybermike
Heh that reminds of my a movie where a Deer pissed in a creek and down stream was a water bottling factory...
AFAIK, that was The Tuxedo (the cheesy action movie with Jackie Chan).

Anyways, when I need to piss then I piss. It doesn't really matter to me where it is, whether it's in the shower, a toilet, an alleyway... whatever.

Hygiene be damned, I NEED TO PEE! :D

punx1325 12-22-2003 08:06 PM

Because of people peeing in the shower I have to use sandals when I shower at school.

cheerios 12-23-2003 01:54 AM

no, that's 'cuz of moldy feet. The pee's sterile, the athlete's foot isn't.

ChrisJericho 12-23-2003 05:24 AM

There is a toilet next to my shower.

I turn on the shower water in order for it to get warm, pee in the toilet then get in the shower.

Though I know urine is sterile I still don't want to be standing in it.

orphen 12-23-2003 05:36 AM

who cares? it's going down the drain anywayz. i do it .

james t kirk 12-23-2003 09:32 PM

Wow, I guess I better not even dare get into all my golden shower experiences then.

And I don't mean that the shower is painted gold either.

cheers

PoteMatic 12-23-2003 10:47 PM

Personally I dont see the need to piss in the shower when there is a toilet a few feet away. i take a piss before the shower and i dont see why others cant do that and if you do and cannot go 15min without having to go again im sorry but there is something wrong.

nothingx 12-24-2003 05:16 PM

Actually urine is very clean. It's mostly water with minerals and vitamins your body didn't need. In fact, ancient societies used urine for cleaning out wounds. The only reason people think it's dirty is because it is a very nutrative substance. Bacteria and things like to grow in it pretty easily.

So, no, I see no problem with pissing on yourself.

papermachesatan 12-26-2003 09:48 PM

I wouldn't pee in the shower although I admittedly frequently jerk off in it.

CBlend 12-27-2003 04:53 PM

Doesn't bother me a bit

KinkyKiwi 04-09-2005 01:07 PM

.....its pee....its meant to be in the toilet...

and fyi...i'm never going swimming again.

Janey 04-09-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuttersnipeXL
I use the shower to get clean, not to stand in my own feces. What is the toilet for anyway? What's wrong with waiting a few minutes?


its urine they're talking about not feces...

I say go for it. it's cleaner than the water sloughing dirt off your body anyways. Oh and always clean the tub after, it's only polite.

degrawj 04-09-2005 02:54 PM

like Lebell said, urine is antiseptic. sure, it kind of stinks, but it's not "dirty." i just make sure i aim for the drain whenever i have to go.

d3cemberist 04-09-2005 03:34 PM

I always do it, I just aim for the drain. :lol:

joeshoe 04-09-2005 08:56 PM

1 and a half words: biohazard

Well not really, but in a college dorm it could get dangerous.

Demeter 04-10-2005 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrooks544
What the heck is wrong with pee? It is sterile, or practically so, and the water coming out of the shower drains it all away if just a few seconds. There is much worse stuff coming out your nose, if you blow it in the shower, or your spit. I assume that people wash their ass-cracks in the shower? This is much more dirty than a little pee flowing down. I never cease to be surprised at how prissy people are and how hung up about their bodies too. Anyone who is seriously weirded out by peeing in the shower just doesn't seem to be in touch with reality. There is no logical reason for it. Pee isn't bad for you and it washes right down the drain.

How true, it okay to let the bacteria from your genitals & asscrack run down your legs, but not pee?

Gilda 04-10-2005 12:42 AM

Peeing in the shower is part of my morning routine. As someone else pointed out, it's not just sterile, it's antiseptic, it's a good cleanser. If you've got athletes foot or other fungus, peeing on your feet will help treat it.

Do you know why you must wash your hands after urinating? It has nothing to do with the urine. You don't wash to get rid of the urine, which is harmless, you wash to clean the truly nasty bacteria that you pick up from the skin in that area and from feces. This, by the way, is why we ladies are always taught to wipe front to back (or even better, dab instead of wipe) Getting a little urine in the vagina or anus is harmless, but feces in the vagina or urinary tract are really, really bad news, and the bacteria from the feces are always there, regardless of how often and how well you clean your nether regions.

Fohur2 04-11-2005 03:31 PM

All the time,trickshots too.

Val_1 04-11-2005 03:54 PM

I use to think it was gross until I learned more about the antiseptic qualities of urine. I still usually aim downstream. By the time I'm done showering it's all washed down anyway.

la petite moi 04-11-2005 03:57 PM

Yay for peeing in the shower. I do it at least when the water is going but it's not like I scrub down the shower after I pee.

pattycakes 04-11-2005 04:15 PM

..... i like to pee on my feet when i first get in the shower, and then wash eem off in the end. keeps those ath feet away!

woot?

the dirt running off your body, and grese out of your hair is worse than the pee that comes out of your body.

pattycakes 04-11-2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KinkyKiwi
.....its pee....its meant to be in the toilet...

and fyi...i'm never going swimming again.

...... i think we were peeing before the tolilet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TequilaJr
It might be sterile, it might be antiseptic, it might be whatever you want it to be, those arguments won't convince me that peeing in the shower is ok. I pee before I go into the shower, so the urge doesn't ever really come up while I'm in there. As far as the people saying that every guy has done it, I call BS.

......and i bet you never did it when you were a kid getting a bath or shower.... haha everyone has done it!!!!!!!

pattycakes 04-11-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punx1325
Because of people peeing in the shower I have to use sandals when I shower at school.

i feel however that it is different to pee in a public shower than your home shower. home great! public... its more of a respect thing

.....ya know

Magpie0001 04-11-2005 04:26 PM

I wouldnt say its Ok, but I have done it.

TroutKind 04-11-2005 07:39 PM

This thread makes me really wonder about my roomates shower habits. The thought makes me cringe. I think I will go scrub the shower now!

eeef2 04-12-2005 03:28 PM

ill pee in the shower all i want... and on ANYONE who disagrees

abaya 04-12-2005 04:34 PM

Oh man, when I was a kid (like 8-10 years old) my girl friends and I would pee in the shower together all the time. We would take "aim" at the drain and pretend that we could pee like boys (when we stood with our hips thrust forward, we got a pretty nice arc going)... it was fun.

It does smell odd though, and I believe that after a while it starts to stain... and even though I know it's sterile and harmless, I just prefer the toilet.

Of course someone used to say, If you're afraid of the toilet, pee in the lake!! (Which I have done on many waterskiing outings.)

wolf 04-12-2005 07:27 PM

It actually will kill mildew if you have a dirty shower.

mo42 04-12-2005 08:04 PM

I'm really surprised that so many people are saying yes. I had no idea.

little_tippler 04-12-2005 11:51 PM

I pee in the shower / confession

I clean up afterwards... eh who cares, I don't see a problem.

Not anywhere public though!

WillyPete 04-13-2005 12:11 AM

I wonder how many of you guys that said you wouldn't pee in the shower have no qualms about jerking off in the shower?

What's the difference?


Funny story:
Was in boarding school and we had communal showers and usually all were showering round the same time. After sport, before dinner.
Anyway, this friend of mine is standing in the shower grinning like a loon whilst washing his hair. I wouldn't have thought anything of it, but for the fact that he's facing this guy he hates and is chatting to him like he's a long lost brother or something.

Afterward he told me that he was pissing on the guys leg at the time. :D

k925 04-13-2005 12:40 AM

Behold! The power of shower pee!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lebell
Urine is antiseptic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erion
It will have no harmful effects on your shower's sanitation whatsoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scipio
Urine is not only antiseptic, it's STERILE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nothingx
In fact, ancient societies used urine for cleaning out wounds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilda
If you've got athletes foot or other fungus, peeing on your feet will help treat it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf
It actually will kill mildew if you have a dirty shower.

Embrace your shower pee.
Love your shower pee.
The shower pee will show you The Way.

It also cures world hunger and kills those nasty spiders that hang out in the corner!

LONG LIVE THE SHOWER PEE!!

(paid for by the Shower Pee National Convention '05.)
"I'm Shower Pee and I approve this message."

ChistledStone 04-13-2005 12:57 AM

As I always say 'Let it go with the flow.'

thubpt 04-13-2005 03:03 PM

I'm with the majority on this one, it seems. Doesn't matter how many times I've used the toilet, or how much I've had to drink or not . . . . . The minute I get in the shower, I've gotta go. Why fight it?

maleficent 04-13-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf
It actually will kill mildew if you have a dirty shower.

Heloise doesn't have ^^^ hint!!

And coca cola is great for getting stains out of the toilet bowl too...

You learn so much on TFP.... :D

But.. the mildew is usually around the top of the shower by the door... you must have really good aim... :D

AquaFox 04-13-2005 06:27 PM

lol, well, now that half the people admit to peeing in the shower.... has anyone took a pee into your sink before?


i shower first thing in the morning and i used to pee in the shower when i first got in, soo i didn't have to let it sit and smell in the toliet... cause i didn't want to run the water.... when i cant hold it in that long i'll just peee in the sink, my penis is long enough to make it in without dripping on the counter around it

SecretMethod70 04-13-2005 06:46 PM

As others have said, it's generally sterile so it's not a big deal. If I'm in the shower and have to go, why not? It's all rinsed away anyway, and it's not like I'm aiming for my feet or something.

insaneone 04-18-2005 12:14 AM

AquaFox, whatever happened to the ordeal with the young hottie who wanted to do you in the hotel? that was a great story, but how did it end?

passthru 04-18-2005 01:51 AM

Just as Adam Corolla said in the Man Show, "where else are you supposed to do it?"
Just pee at the drain and it will be 'flushed' as you're peeing. It's not like you'd be peeing on your soapdish, washcloth, and all over the shower curtain.

cellophanedeity 04-18-2005 08:57 AM

I just don't like the feeling of peeing in the shower. Damn society and their encouragement for ladies to not pee while standing!

Perhaps I'll try it tomorrow.

somi 04-18-2005 09:18 AM

thats very good for your feet

qtpye4u84 04-18-2005 09:20 AM

I let it go because I don't like the toilet seat being wet. I will go pee in the toilet before I shower if I have too pee. I think about it this way, it goes down the drain then when you wash your hair and body the soap cleans the pee so the shower wont smell well, my shower doesnt smell. I pee with out my boyfriend knowing that I'm peeing when hes in there lol.

Lunatic 04-18-2005 09:14 PM

If im taking a shower and suddenly I get the urge to pee, and I cant hold it, I will pee down the drain, and if im able to hold it until I am done, then Ill just use the toilet next to my shower.

fallsauce 04-19-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qtpye4u84
I let it go because I don't like the toilet seat being wet. I will go pee in the toilet before I shower if I have too pee. I think about it this way, it goes down the drain then when you wash your hair and body the soap cleans the pee so the shower wont smell well, my shower doesnt smell. I pee with out my boyfriend knowing that I'm peeing when hes in there lol.

Thank you! My thoughts exactly.

I don't know what you guys are doing in there that makes you think the urine is going to stick to the floor, but the water's going to rinse it all off anyway.

And if you're getting out of the shower, you're freezing, the toilet seat (if you're a girl) and the toilet paper is wet. It's not worth the effort.


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