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Old 12-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is the story...

http://www.thewgalchannel.com/educa...774/detail.html

LANCASTER, Pa. -- A 12-year-old boy is being evaluated after allegedly threatening to go on a killing spree at school Tuesday.

Pittsburgh police were alerted Monday night to a posting on the Web site www.horror.com.

The posting by Freddy Fan reads: "I really am. I'm going to kill my teacher tommorrow and a lot of other people in my school. I'll probably kill a lot of people."

The original posting had a number of responses to it. Freddy Fan responded to them, saying, "Guys I am not kidding around. I am serious. If they blame it on the horror movies I'll tell them that horror had nothing to do with this. I won't be in deep shit because I'll be killing everybody who stands in my way. If I get killed then I'll be happy with that."

When another user suggested contacting the authorities, Freddy Fan wrote that he would kill the local authorities.

Freddy Fan's last posting reads, "I am only settling this on the people that have made me do this. not innocent people. I have to take a stand. That is final. nobody, and i mean nobody, will change my mind."

Police contacted the Internet service provider and were able to locate the address of boy.

The West Earl Police Department in Leola searched the boy's residence.

"We seized computer equipment, along with a knife that was found in his backpack," Police Chief Brian Brandt.

He was taken into custody at 7:15 a.m. Tuesday.

The boy's name and school he attends have not been released.



here is the link to the message board posts.


http://www.horror.com/forum/showthr...p?threadid=1836
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Old 12-10-2003, 03:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That first link doesn't work.

Stupid kids, what he needs is a job in a steel mill, or a trip to vietnam.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I kinda laughed at this. Imagine that... being held accountable for what you say online.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Is anyone else tired of reading about kids doing these types of things? Glad that someone informed the proper authorities before we hear of another tragedy on the six o'clock news.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It's good he was arrested.
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Old 12-10-2003, 06:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah. I got all indignant, thinking police were arresting something for something stupid... But then I read the article, and no, he probably deserved to be arrested for that.
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Old 12-10-2003, 07:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, the kid thinks he can kill law enforcements with a knife? Someone is overestimating their abilities a tad bit.
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Old 12-10-2003, 07:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ugh.. lancaster isnt to far from here..

I hate when stupidity hits this close to home.
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Old 12-10-2003, 07:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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what drives people to do stuff like that? its kinda sad that stuff has to breakdown like this.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm just glad I got outa the K-12 education system before all hell started breaking loose. Should I home school my kids when I have em? hmmmm
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Old 12-10-2003, 09:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm just glad I got outa the K-12 education system before all hell started breaking loose. Should I home school my kids when I have em? hmmmm
Actually, I am highly against homeschooling.

Kids need social interaction on a daily basis when their that young.

Its when they learn from thier environments, and if thier just around the parents only they will not grow up to make a choice of how to be, but only by how they were directly taught.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Posting something like that on a whim is stupid, but may not be serious. Posting over and over, and going into detail, and rebutting comments about you "just joking" make it serious. Serious threats definitely need to be directed to the attention of the proper authorities. I'm very glad this was done. Even if he WAS "just playing around", there are some subjects you simply do not "just play around" with- kinda like joking about having a bomb on you in an airport, or plane. He'll learn common sense, if nothing else. I hope someone smacks that little shit around for a while, too.

Fuckin' kids.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Actually, I am highly against homeschooling.

Kids need social interaction on a daily basis when their that young.

Its when they learn from thier environments, and if thier just around the parents only they will not grow up to make a choice of how to be, but only by how they were directly taught.
I was homeschooled through most of highschool. You can take classes at the local public school for like math or something if you need it, I did for like geometry and what not. I was also allowed to participate on the football and wrestling teams as well. So you can get the social thing down pretty well.

Also, the education is much better then local schools. It's much more difficult, and there's no teacher there to help you. You pretty much learn out of a book and when there's a test you'd better know your shit or you're boned. It's a lot like college, and indeed most ivy leagues prefer home schoolers for that very reason.

Plus, there's no faggots walking around your house drinking deep the darkness of their eternal pain, plotting to blow up the school because Marilyn Manson decreed all conformists must die.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Also, the education is much better then local schools. It's much more difficult, and there's no teacher there to help you.
That's not always true. My neighbor home schools her kids. My neighbor is really stupid. I've no doubt her kids will turn out stupid. Part of their education is watering a dead tree. They did this everyday for months until it started pouring. Now there is no need to water anything. The tree is still dead. One of these days, it is going to get so rotten it will fall over on one of her kids. Then they will learn to not water dead trees. Until then, I just shake my head and sigh.

Homeschooling can be more challenging, and you can learn more. But that is not necessarily the case.

I am undecided on the issue.
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Old 12-11-2003, 02:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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On the topic about the kid posting the death threats online, of course this was an incredibly stupid thing to do, but I have a feeling this kid has major issues going on in his life. His family is probably screwed up. If you had a 12 year old kid that was posting death threats online, if you were a good parent you'd get the feeling that your kid has been feeling depressed or angry lately and maybe GOD FORBID you should talk to him instead of letting him play Halo for 8 hours a day.

As for the home schooling thing, that's fine if it worked for others but I personally would not do it for my child, especially in junior/senior highschool. This is mainly due to the fact that multiple teachers and different expertise in different areas. The chemistry teacher studied chemistry in college, the biology teacher studied biology, the history teacher studied history etc etc. They have a wealth of knowledge that I and my spouse (if I ever get married) would not posses. Furthermore, yes you can get some quasi social stuff by participating in some extra curriculars and doing home schooling, but I personally believe that school teaches kids how to be in that same enviroment 7 hours a day as that big dumb kid, the really smart kid, and the pretty girl. And most importantly how to respond to each of them and where they fit in.
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Old 12-11-2003, 04:52 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Good thing they found this kid... he may not have meant it, but he needs serious help. You just don't post those sort of things, anywhere.
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Old 12-11-2003, 05:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Aw, come on Phaenx, lets not blame poor parenting skills and pent up anger on marilyn manson. Thats what is wrong with the world today, people blaming problems on everyone else instead of what really caused it in the first place.
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Old 12-11-2003, 06:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah I agree why say all of that shit if youdon't mean to do it.
The kid needs help and people need protection from him.
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Old 12-11-2003, 08:22 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I bet that was a hell of a shock to the kid when he found out (the hard way) that his actions have consequences, even on the internet.
I think though that this was more of a cry for attention than a serious thought process, although he may have had some crazy plan to do more serious damage with that knife.
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Old 12-11-2003, 10:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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.....plotting to blow up the school because Marilyn Manson decreed all conformists must die.
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Aw, come on Phaenx, lets not blame poor parenting skills and pent up anger on marilyn manson. Thats what is wrong with the world today, people blaming problems on everyone else instead of what really caused it in the first place.
At first I thought his comment was a sarcastic poke at the news media and how they like to blame movies, TV, and music for all the wrongdoing in the world. I'm still of this opinion, but angel here has given me reason to question.

I'd like to hear your honest take on it, Phaenx, just for curiosity's sake. And yes, angel, that IS one of the many things wrong with the world today.
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Old 12-15-2003, 07:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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It does have a funny side to it becuase it didn't happen. Can you imagine what would have happend though if he really did go through with it? Ohh god, censorship on the internet and monitoring the internet would be the topic of the month now that Saddam is caputred!
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Old 12-15-2003, 07:12 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Can you say "Cry for Help"?

Here's the original thread with the threats. (Somebody mentioned the link above didn't work)

Here's the thread at horror.com where the person who reported him to the FBI follows up with the story.

There was a thread here at TFP a while ago asking about this very thing--what would somebody have to do or say here to have somebody here take action about it. I've got to say, I'm pretty proud of the members of the horror.com forum for what they did. They likely saved at least one life.

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Old 12-15-2003, 11:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Cry for help? Bloody hell, that's a cry for help if ever I saw one:
"Another thing is that I'll burn in hell because God sucks. Where was God when I needed a friend? Why isn't he making things better? These questions are unawnswered but I'll find the answers. I am truly sorry but I am going through with this"

I feel scared just thinking about what was going through his mind when he wrote that. I've been on the brink of suicide in the past and have been to the bottom of depression valley and back - I can empathise with the thought of feeling crap and wanting to kill yourself and your bullies at school (I was very badly bullied at school). I never actually did anything though.

Sad. Just very, very sad...
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Old 12-15-2003, 11:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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One proof that the system still works!
That and the fact that people are now alert enough to report these things...bravo to them!
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Old 12-16-2003, 12:16 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2003, 04:38 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Actually, I am highly against homeschooling.

Kids need social interaction on a daily basis when their that young.

Its when they learn from thier environments, and if thier just around the parents only they will not grow up to make a choice of how to be, but only by how they were directly taught.
I really hate when people make this comment because its obvious they dont know the first thing about "home schooling" My child has been taught this way since she was 4 years old, I live outside Atlanta and our county has a great home school association, where all the kids get together and do things on a regular basis, they even have their own "showcase" each year where they have recitals, cookoffs and such. She interacts with other kids almost everyday of the week with her music classes, ballet classes, sports groups and church.


She is now 10..she just took her Iowa basic skills test and placed in the top 2% of the nation and for what would typically be 5th grade work she placed on the same level with 9th graders. I was worried that I would not be able to educate my own child but I have not only put that worry aside, I can be proud that I know my child IS getting a good education.

Homeschooling USED to be non-social, but no more, I wish those of you that make statements like that would take the time to know what really goes on in the life of some homeschooled children.
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Old 12-16-2003, 05:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Wow, that is really scary. Thank god we don't have people like that here at the TFP, right ?

I'm glad that other kid reported him and no one got hurt in the end. I think the kid was just crying for attention, maybe this is some sort of vengeance against his parents who didn't pay enough atention to him. (and no, I'm not trying to blame the parents or Manson) Just another case of a kid that is damaged for the rest of his life, how sad.
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Old 12-16-2003, 01:54 PM   #28 (permalink)
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