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Old 12-05-2003, 07:26 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Is it somehow then okay that they teach their kids to believe in God?

People - and not just kids - have faith in the idea and the spirit of Santa Claus. This isn't about bullshitting your kids. It's about giving them something greater than just black-or-white logic to believe in. It's that kind of thing that allows people to experience the wonder of life, whether they're 6 or 60. I feel bad for those who can't dream past what they see in front of their eyes.
Oh come on,don't play the religion card. That's the most over used excuse in the book.

As for the rest of your quote,I 'm doing my best Jimmy Stewart imitation and shedding a fake tear I bought at Wal-Mart just for the occasion.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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As for the rest of your quote,I 'm doing my best Jimmy Stewart imitation and shedding a fake tear I bought at Wal-Mart just for the occasion.
Now THAT was funny!
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Now THAT was funny!
Almost spit my beer out writing it too
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:37 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Beer is fake, your parents made it up! Haha! Jokes on you!
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:51 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Beer is fake, your parents made it up! Haha! Jokes on you!
Oh I wish my grand pappy founded Budwieser or Miller beer.
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I've always enjoyed "funny morning radio guys" and I think this stunt was funny, too.

As a child, my parents explained the Santa Claus myth and it makes an interesting fairy tale. But in my family we always celebrate the birth of Jesus as the main point of Christmas. Trees, lights, gifts, etc. are fun ways to add to the celebration, but without the message of the birth of our savior, it's a hollow, meaningless waste of resources.

And if you lie to your kids, you deserve all the trouble setting a bad example will bring you.

My 2 cents.
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Old 12-05-2003, 10:26 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:18 AM   #48 (permalink)
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This whole thing reminds me of a couple of people my GF's parents know. They are devout catholics and refuse to celebrate or acknowledge any of the commercial aspect of christmas. No Presents, no Santa, none of that. The reason? They don't want their children to believe in something, or more specifically, someone, only to find out later that it/they doesn't exist.

Anyone need help finding the irony?
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:56 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Is it somehow then okay that they teach their kids to believe in God?
Since I don't believe in God, no.

I feel that if you want an religion, you should eb allowed to find that religion yourself, not be brainwashed into it at a young age.

I view this Santa-thing as really cruel. They tell their kids not to lie, but what are they doing? They tell the kids there is a Santa, Easterbunny, Toothfairy etc and then tehy laugh behind their kids backs "Haha, it's so funny that little Johnny belive in Santa"

I don't like being lied to and laughed at behind my back. At any age.

I figured out there was no Santa when I was four years old and noticed that Santa had the same watch and shoes as my uncle who was out "buying the newspaper". Same with the toothfairy really. Snuck up and watched my dad put some coins in the glass. (In Sweden ou put your tooth in a glass of water and the tooth fairy replaces it with money)... and we have no such thing as a easter bunny here. People just give you eggs made of paper filled with candy.
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Old 12-06-2003, 06:06 AM   #50 (permalink)
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As a child, my parents explained the Santa Claus myth and it makes an interesting fairy tale. But in my family we always celebrate the birth of Jesus as the main point of Christmas.

The funny thing is that there is no mention in the bible that Christ was born on the 24th/25th of December.

It's a pagan/heathen-ritual turned Christian.
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:44 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Anyone who lies to their children deserved this.
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Old 12-06-2003, 09:32 AM   #52 (permalink)
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meh, the kids have to either face reality at some point, or go and join the govt. the DJ just broke the news a bit early, so some think. whoop de doo. to hell with the lies we tell ourselves.
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Old 12-06-2003, 10:50 AM   #53 (permalink)
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That is easily the most retarded question I've heard in a long time.
I can breathe it. It keeps me alive so obviously it exists. What keeps you alive in your fantasy?
Hey, I'm just trying to get the correct definition of reality.

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That's what you said right? And I mean, sure I can feel air, but I can't see it. And since you seem to be so intune with reality, I would think that whatever definition of reality you give would be the best possible one.

So... you can't see air, so that means it doesn't exist based on your first definition. But, then you said it exists because you can breathe it on your second definition. I think you should re-tool your definition so people can't give examples if you're gonna be go against everything that's so stupid like "fantasy" and "beliefs" .
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:30 PM   #54 (permalink)
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That's what you said right? And I mean, sure I can feel air, but I can't see it.
I just saw it when I was outside. It's freezing cold, and every single time I take a breathe of air I can see it. You ever see some leaves being blown around by the air? I sure have. If air isn't doing that then please enlighten me and tell me what's going on.
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:39 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Reality is what you see with your eyes, not you mind.
So, I'm guessing love and hate don't exist.

And not to mention blind people. I guess your saying they have no sense of reality.

You know, I'm just clarifying what you said.
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:39 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Well yeah, he's a stupid fucking jerk for doing it. But it's not the end of the world, isn't it ? Seriously, did any one of you break down crying or feel terribly disillusioned when you found out ? I sure didn't. It's a bit of folklore and commercialism, nothing more.
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:05 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Good for him. I don't think the wholesale setup of children is funny. Do people ever stop and think about how often adults outright lie to children? Where is the justification for this? Do adults create these fictions out of some sick desire for amusement? Why is it fun to set up whole delusional systems for kids?
It's not.

Calling lying "magic" is crap, by the way. If I lie to you about something and then called it magic, I don't think you'd be amused. So why the double standard for kids?

Kids get lied to enough. Santa is one more needless lie they don't deserve.
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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So, I'm guessing love and hate don't exist.

And not to mention blind people. I guess your saying they have no sense of reality.

You know, I'm just clarifying what you said.
People are just getting stupid with this. Emotions fucking exist! You can see people act out their emotions for christ's sake. I can see someone cry. I can watch to people fuck! Blind people have a sense of reality, but I'll guarantee you it's different for someone who has never had sight during their lives compared to someone who can see.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:18 PM   #59 (permalink)
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We're just trying to go by your definition of "everything you can see with your eyes is reality"
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:33 PM   #60 (permalink)
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This DJ guy sounds like a bit of an ass, but what sort of morning show does he do? There's lots of morning DJ shows in town around here, but only one or two that I would be willing to let my children listen to. Especially if they say "tune in, kids!"
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:09 PM   #61 (permalink)
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So if we don't tell kids about Santa for the sake of "keeping it real", is there anything wrong with going the next step and showing them things that are without a doubt real, such as burn victims, starving children, war casualities, etc? Isn't it lying to keep stuff like that away from the kids?

What I'm trying to say is that having kids face our cold reality at such an early age is not necessarily a good thing. I think the wonder a kid has in believing in Santa outweighs the disappointment they have when they realize the truth, at least was the case for myself.
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The guy is an ass, no matter how you cut it. If a parent decides to tell their child the story of santa, they should also be the ones to bring down that myth, not some DJ. I don't know what that guy was thinking, or who let him do it, but, I wonder how much their ratings will drop...
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:55 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Having been told about Santa but never actually believing in him, I find this hiliarious. Parents should not be lying to their kids. White lies are ok, but blantantly retarded lies such as a fat man is coming down the chimney every year to give you a present are ridiculous. I'm not against the parents anger against the Radio DJ (he should not have told them, but if he did, oh well), I just think the entire Santa thing is dumb.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:26 PM   #64 (permalink)
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>>That is easily the most retarded question I've heard in a long time.
>>I can breathe it. It keeps me alive so obviously it exists. What keeps you alive in your fantasy?

Sixate, you sure are getting nasty for someone who is a moderator on this board. Ease up.

edited to remove info not pertinent as I missed the page 2 notation.

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Old 12-06-2003, 09:39 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I don't listen to morning talk radio. This is just one more reason not to. I don't understand how the parents who let their kids listen to the program could have done so blindly, knowing the standard BS programming these morning shows put on. They should be blaming themselves for even having the radio on, rather than blaming the station.
I remember realizing Santa didn't exist. When it hit me full on, I felt like I had been lied to and my parents had betrayed my trust. If someone asked me then or even now, if I wish my parents had told me the truth, I would say no. Back then I would never have given up the special gifts Santa had delivered, now I am glad I had the chance to experience that magic and fantasy. The fun and anticipation of those youthful Christmas mornings is more than worth the small deception and I am glad my parents did not tell me the truth.
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Old 12-07-2003, 02:11 AM   #66 (permalink)
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the DJ is a dick- we all raise our kids differently- he decided to be an ass for the publicity- his little crusade doesnt justify drawing kids into it, when they are not in any way responsible for the things he is against- how the hell is their believeing or not going to effect our rabid comercialism- are those parrents not going to trudge out to the stores and buy them gifts this year?- what the fuck was the point....
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:46 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I laughed my ass off when I heard about this. Funny as all hell. I hate kids anyway, so I really don't care about "ruining the magic", but seriously... why would you intentionally lie to your kids about something so stupid? Over presents? That'd be like telling a terminal child that it's not a disease, "it's a mean-old Evil Fairy, what done and put tha cancer in ya!" Reality is easier to accept than fantasy.
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Old 12-07-2003, 05:12 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I never believed in Santa, big surprise huh, and when I was in first grade I told all the kids in my class there was no such thing, and that their parents were lying to them. I damn near got my ass kicked by the entire class. They all thought I was the liar. I also told them their parents were lying to them about god..... They'll all realize one day that I'm right on that on too.


hahaha thats funny
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:42 AM   #69 (permalink)
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It's about flipping time as well...

The act of dispelling lies can never be criticized.

Santa doesn't exist, so why tell ur kids he does?
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:43 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I heard about this on a radio stations morning show, that was one of the most horrible things a person could do to a kid if they are young enough.

Sad really, all that for publicity.

Fuckers.
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Old 12-08-2003, 08:39 AM   #71 (permalink)
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What an asshole.
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Old 12-08-2003, 10:19 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I'm glad that the DJ's I work with aren't as heartless as this guy.

Regardless of whether children should or should not believe in Santa, it is really up to parents to raise their children, not television or radio stations.

This would be similar to a DJ telling young children to tune in, then giving a detailed sex-ed talk. Yeah, everyone has to find out sometime, but it's a potentially important topic that kids either need to discover for themselves (like I did) or learn during a heart-to-heart with a parent, or a hiking trip with Granpappy or whatever the hell the parents decide is appropriate.

Yes, I understand that there is a difference between sex ed and the whole Santa thing, but the idea is the same.
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Old 12-08-2003, 05:15 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Since I don't believe in God, no.

I feel that if you want an religion, you should eb allowed to find that religion yourself, not be brainwashed into it at a young age.

I view this Santa-thing as really cruel. They tell their kids not to lie, but what are they doing? They tell the kids there is a Santa, Easterbunny, Toothfairy etc and then tehy laugh behind their kids backs "Haha, it's so funny that little Johnny belive in Santa"
whoa whoa whoa, stop the presses. you mean there's no Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy? no wonder my pillow's so fuckin hard...

call me a baby-hater (and you wouldn't be the first), but i thought it was quite funny, what the DJ did. nothin like a firm dose of reality to shred the hopes and dreams of the future of america!
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Old 12-08-2003, 06:08 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Notice that for the most part, people who think it's funny tend to be one's that dont like kids or don't yet have them and people that think it's cruel tend to be one's that like kids and have them.
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Old 12-08-2003, 06:45 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Splck, i think your right. I love little kids (no Im not perverted). Even being only in my first year of college, nothing brings quite the same smile to my face as little kids having fun.

I dont want to witness my own kids having fun for a good long time though!
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:09 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2003, 03:51 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2003, 04:47 PM   #78 (permalink)
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I think the main problem here is the way the DJ broke the news, after urging kids to listen.

While I'm not a Christian, I don't see how lying to kids about this helps them develop as people.
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Old 12-09-2003, 05:16 PM   #79 (permalink)
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there is also the sad issue of economical standing and santa--kids from rich homes end up with shetland ponies, kids from poor homes end up with something from the dollar store. when kids compare the goodies that santa gave them, what kinds of conclusions would they make? that santa loves kid x more than kid y because kid x got a better present?
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Old 12-09-2003, 05:54 PM   #80 (permalink)
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The guy was a dick. Parents have the right to tease and manipulate their kids for their own pleasure. That is every parent's right. My dad told my sister when she was six that if you ate anchovies on pizza and drank kool-aid, they would come back to life and swim in your stomach. That is the fun parents get to have. Kids are made to be told stuff and to have fun with. It is not for other people to spoil your fun.
Still laffin my ass off.


As far as GOD and SANTA...
I got stuff from Santa and still waiting for God, well , not really. I never believed in God, but I always believed in Santa. He brought me a gift right up until I turned 38 and then they stopped coming the same year my Mom passed away. Funny how that worked. You have to believe to receive.

Now, this ass on the radio. I would love to see a list of sponsers for his morning show so I could write them all a letter stating how I felt about their products being pitched by a "non-believer". Maybe this ass on the radio needs to read the letter "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus".
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