On the one hand it is true that Lurkers by definition do not add comments to a thread, but on the other hand they do contribute a few things -
<ul><li>They make up part of the audience that listens to those who DO post</li><li>They add to the hitcount, which in turn keeps the tfp as a "popular site" as judged by Google and others</li><li>They have the POTENTIAL to talk - sometimes it just takes someone to press the right hot button or for them to get comfortable - better than NO POTENTIAL, right?</li><li>They can refer others, axing them means they won't</li><li>They come seeking titties, who knows where they'll end up</li></ul>

Chances are if someone is referred by a lurker, the referred person will also be a lurker. I doubt most of the new people read the TFP charter. I didn't my first time joining, and I got axed numerous times on v3.0 before I figured it out. But there is always a chance that the referred person will not be a lurker.

I think the board will need to compare posts with the time as a member...... I've just gotten back to the forum after it's recent collapse, and this is only my second post..... so lets temper all this axing vehemence a tad.......?

Just make a post count of 1 needed to see the Titty board, and don't advertise it.

And ban everyone who posts "wh3r3s the t1tty b04rd that f4rk l1nk3d t00 d00ds. p34ce."

:)

Give them a little more time, I think. TFP 4.0 is still young.

When lurkers etc are axed, is a record made of their email addresses? You need to give a valid email address to register so TFP does have one for everyone. Ok, most people now have two or three emails, and can get more online accounts, but it's hasslesome and time consuming. Thus, I have no idea whether this is implementable or not but my 2p:

Keep the charters going etc. Anyone who has been a lurker for a month, send them an automated email containing the policies, and subtly reminding them that their contributions are needed. If they are still a lurker after 2 months, send them another auto-email with the charters etc, and reminding them to post etc. 2 more weeks, then ax them, and blacklist the email address so they can't re-register with it. Thus, they will get 2.5 months of access per email address they are able to get, which really should be sufficiant to differentiate the lurkers from the bods who are really interested. Ok, not foolproof, but potentially a better system than we have now. Opinions?

The last time there was an axing, a notice was posted on the Titty Board. Plus, there was the announcement on all the boards. We don't want to spam our members. If there's another axing, there will be warning. If they choose not to follow it, oh well.

Well cowudders, while it sounds great, it also sounds like a resource hog....

You win a cookie.


Axing will happen when it happens, and most likely not before that, but it probably will happen after that.


Final thought: Minimum post count requirement = SPAM.

Drop the axe in whatever way you guys see fit.
Whats this about homemade bailey's

I say let the axe fall...but i heard something in irc about that when the axe falls..new registration can't happen. Is there a way we can do a mass emailing to the people with 0 posts?

How about those that are absolutely petrified about posting, be allowed to choose between posting, donating or axeing?

I love the tfp but honestly is has been very slow the last several days... from work and home.

I followed a link from another forum (yes to the tits :D )... but after reading some of the posts, I really like the format and the wide variety of topics.. Being an Auto Tech myself I will try to help out in the auto forum as much as I can.:cool:
but I have noticed that it is very slow to load pages (I have cable BTW). so anything to speed it up is ok by me.. as far as axing that is.

I CAME FOR THE TITTIES AND OTW, BUT I STAYED FOR THE DEBATES!

(oh yeah, the exhibition board is pretty spankin' too)

I think that was the policy on 3.0. I'm not a real frequent poster so I donated to make sure I was still in. ;)

I'm relativley new here too, and rarely drop my opinion on the discussion topics. But I read most of the forums...I understand that it's supposed to be an interactive community, but keep in mind that the TB is not the only place where lurking occurs. And setting up post requirements, for any forum, will probably end up being a detriment to discussion quality across the board.

Just out of curiosity, how much *does* it cost to run a server similar to this one - given the point above, that most of what is actually stored by TFP may be text?

Wow, I came here for the titties board. I read other threads but this is my first post, but it is not really a contribution. I guess I never feel I have anything to contribute. I guess I will start forcing myself to post and not only replys on the titties board. Heres to hoping I fit in and start to contribute more.

more than we get in donations. we have upwards of 200 connections at any one time, continually, throughout the month, and it's not just text. you download all the little images that go w/ the PHP page, the icons, etc, and they're not big, but it all adds up.

That said, chill on the axing thing, guys. s'not a big urgent deal right now. members GOOD! ;)

Been thinking the same.

True about spamming the members, but the only ones who would get the email would be those who have a post count of next to nothing and deserve axing. Once this process has been through a few times, people would learn and you'd have a lot of the leechers simply go away and not bother returning. Also, it wouldn't really be that much spam - it would be a genuine warning, received twice prior to axing. Two 'spams' per member - not much! Although I'll give you that the warnings go up on the top of the board so they should really read them and abide by them if they want to keep their membership.

Also, addressing krwlz's point about being a resource hog - would it really be? The resources that would be freed up by having the leechers locked out may well compensate.

yup./...wrkime ...i'm in on this idea too.

thanx for the insite End User

I browse this section alot more than I do the TB!

as much as people talk about titty board posts being useless, so are alot of the posts in Nonsense as far as contributing to the sum total of human knowledge. Don't get me wrong, I actively troll the Nonsense board because it brightens my day, but the word association game and word morphing game REQUIRE one-word posts.....and that helps more than "thanks" on the titty board how? Not saying to axe the Nonsense board, but people need to keep their perspective on things.

I came here for the titty board originally, was axed before 3.0 or whatever. After you opened membership back up, I came back and decided to start particpating in order to be able to remain a member.

After genuinely participating though, I can say that the titty board isn't the main reason I come here now however. :) /glurge ;)

I was under the impression that the axing program counted the number of post counts and the number of words in the post count. I.e. a bunch of 2-4 word posts would still result in you getting axed.

there's positives on both sides of the equation, and unfortuntely finding a middle ground is a difficult thing

I found this board by accident following a link form Madville and have not been back there since.

I know I'm not one of the true long time regulars but I will agree with those who say the titties board should be earned. I don't understand those who don't at least post a reply or two or check in, I mean do they think we will track them down??

Hell, I think this is the best forum on the internet and had no problem opening up my wallet to help those who keep it up and running.:icare:

Hell I'm not even able to post a avatar yet..... which reminds me, who many posts do I need to be able to post one???

Like a lot of others I came for the porn and got axed because I refused to add inane comments to the bottom of every titty post. It was only after I got involved in the other forums that I started posting replies.

I came for the porn aswell. Not to keep from getting axed, but this is the first forum that I feel comfortable enough posting (15 messages in 3 days, and some almost make sense!)
What would be rule of thumb for axing somebody anyway? how many posts/words in how much time constitutes a proper member?
What about the shy guy posting posting one ultrabrilliant message, saving some poor deluded bastard from a lifetime of involuntary celebacy?

This site was recomended to me for the titties- once i got here found all the other great stuff- just started posting , and agree that it is nescessary for the good of the comunity, but only if you have something worthwhile to say- forced comentary is never as good as honest stuff, also I don't feel that part of the site should be restricted, hell didn't everyone start as a lurker- seems to me that the non-posters will wander off on their own anyway

If you like the chick someone has posted, give it 5 stars. The total number of stars is then saved and displayed in the index. So users know that if a post has 500 stars and has been viewed by 100 users, then its a good post.

I agree. Let's vote on 5 star or a Bo Derek 1-10 rating.

please don't axe me =)

hehe
 

Whats happens to the bandwidth if suddenly all the lurkers start posting?

In reply to the anti-lurkers – I have posted some of my writings/photographs on this forum several times and I usually don’t receive replys from people with the avatars. I feel that this forum is hard to break into because of the clicky society. After attempts to get familiar with the people of this forum and failing has caused me to become more of a lurker. I enjoy reading the posts, but it just doesn’t seem to me like there is as much interaction that can be found on other smaller forums. It also seems that most people want it to be high up on the hits but that is just caused from the lurker, and this causes anger. Catch-22.

I don't know...sometimes things get pretty busy. I know I've hardly had time to log on, but I'd rather post quality than quantity.

Posting messages = Server space taken up and bandwidth used through people reading those messages.

Lurkers are only trying to save the community bandwidth. ;)

Its all you active people that are the problem.

I think this place has been too unfair to lurkers as of late. You guys cant expect to create a porno forum without having lurkers come. Thats just foolish. For shame in removing it.

Also not happy how my post to this board was removed. I try to make a contribution and instead get moderated. Ridiculous.

This is a bit off-topic, but you could make a image pack with all the little images/icons/smilies/etc. that the TFP uses and make them available for download. Then, make an option that allows the pictures to be loaded locally each time a page is visited. Not only would this cut down on your bandwidth, it would speed the site up for the users as well. I've seen this done on other websites once or twice and it does work wonders.


Back on topic: I found the tittie board through Fark and even got axed on 3.0, but after perusing the rest of the forums I found that the topics and people here are much better than at the forum I usually frequent. That said, I think you'll be seeing a lot more of me. :)

Hi, for all you people who don't run this site and don't know how things work on this board, I'd like to invite you to zip your trap about how you think things should be. The moment you realize that I've gotten us this far and learn to trust my judgement is the moment you start enjoying yourself here.