swearing is banned in russia!!! - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

ziadel · 10-22-2003, 05:49 PM

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Russia's parliament gave final approval on Wednesday to a law banning the use of foreign or offensive words, which have been used by President Vladimir Putin and other politicians to spice up public addresses.

http://www.metro.co.uk/metro/weird/a...rticle_id=8899

this is pretty goddamn hysterical when you consider the incredible swear words russian contains

Spartak · 10-22-2003, 05:52 PM

Seems reasonable, politicians shouldn't use swear words, especially by hiding them in another language.

"We will wipe them out of the shithouse", ah good ol Putin.

ziadel · 10-22-2003, 06:04 PM

dude, if you cant count on a russian to say exactly what hes thinking when hes thinking it, then who can you count on?

arael · 10-22-2003, 06:17 PM

so george orwell was right...

The_Dude · 10-22-2003, 06:22 PM

haha, no more freedom of speech.

the move toward communism continues...

SaltPork · 10-22-2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
haha, no more freedom of speech.

the move toward communism continues...

You really had to wonder when something like this was going to happen. An economy in disarray, crime rampant, etc. You sure didn't have this when Communism ruled the Great Red World.

I think that they will have a fight on their hands returning to Communism, though. Too many of the younger generation are seemingly gung-ho about Capitalism and the "freedoms" that go with it. Of course, that's the spin we get here from our media outlets, so I could be talking out my ass, it would explain the halitosis. Anyway, it will be an interesting couple of decades for Mother Russia.

Soggybagel · 10-22-2003, 07:06 PM

Bullshit.

Hahahha...okay. Now that I made my loserself laugh, i think that this is one of those crazy laws that will never work or hardly be enforced.

Spartak · 10-22-2003, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by ziadel
dude, if you cant count on a russian to say exactly what hes thinking when hes thinking it, then who can you count on?

It's not a question of speaking one's mind, its a question of moral integrity.

As far as I'm aware people could still swear, as long as they were not public officials, and being recorded.

What do you think the outcome would have been if Bush said the "motherfucking axis of shitfucking evil" instead ?

Nefir · 10-22-2003, 08:55 PM

If anyone thinks Russia is a democracy, they are sadly misled. This is not the first time freedom of speech has been infringed on by the CCC.. er I mean the Russian government, nor the last. I'm just glad they didn't get Berezovsky extradited from Greece, or the Russian people would lose alot more than public swearing... Keep your eyes open, West... Comrade Putin and friends have bigger goals than they'd like to admit.

ziadel · 10-22-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Spartak
What do you think the outcome would have been if Bush said the "motherfucking axis of shitfucking evil" instead ?

a resounding hell yeah?

and what goals do you think the russians have in mind nefir?

the bottom line really is that no matter how many ideas they have, they'll never be in the game again, they are just too flat out broke and like over here, their societal standards are crumbling...

russians are no longer willing to eat dirt to insure the survival of the motherland....

yellowgowild · 10-22-2003, 11:03 PM

Wow, that's going to be tough. All the russians I know cuss like sailors. The way they explained their system of swearing would make you believe their society was founded upon it.

Spartak · 10-23-2003, 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by ziadel
the bottom line really is that no matter how many ideas they have, they'll never be in the game again, they are just too flat out broke and like over here, their societal standards are crumbling...

What game ? The MAD game ? They were always and have been in it, Russia still has twice as many functioning nuclear warheads than the US.

Too broke ? Yeah sure, but their free market economy is only a decade old, and is being built with expensive paid labour.

Societal standards ? I'm guessing you have never lived in Russia/never known any older Russians/never known any Russians period. When it comes to morals, the Russian people are the most conservative I have ever come across. If it looks like their standards are "crumbling" its because they are slowly being dragged down to the level of the west.

ziadel · 10-23-2003, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by Spartak
What game ? The MAD game ? They were always and have been in it, Russia still has twice as many functioning nuclear warheads than the US.

Too broke ? Yeah sure, but their free market economy is only a decade old, and is being built with expensive paid labour.

Societal standards ? I'm guessing you have never lived in Russia/never known any older Russians/never known any Russians period. When it comes to morals, the Russian people are the most conservative I have ever come across. If it looks like their standards are "crumbling" its because they are slowly being dragged down to the level of the west.

whoa whoa whoa, hang on here...
first off, the game was a big pissing match, and they ran out :shrug

second off, more functional warheads, yeah, sure, thats all well and good, and I'll freely admit that they to this day have a LOT MORE, they were a fifth strike country after all, but, they aint got no way to launch them now from what I am told.

and theres no arguing how broke they are and you realize this

fourth, my last name is Uruskyj. Go ask someone to translate that for you

I am all too aware of russian morals/culture
and they are a very moral people, they just arent as willing to eat dirt to come out ahead in a cold war, at least not as willing as they were say 30 years ago

get back to me when you figure out exactly what my last name means

edit: damn, I just read that, looks like I got something in my eye

Nefir · 10-23-2003, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by ziadel
and what goals do you think the russians have in mind nefir?

I didn't say the Russians. I said the Russian Government. Its kinda sad that the West doesn't see what is happening there, but I am sure that the majority of Russians living in the US and other Western nations (like myself) sees the disturbing changes which are happening.

Here are a few, just off the top of my head:
- Unhealthy gov't encouragement of extreme, violent nationalism (AKA nazism)
- Constant attempts to bring down the last vestiges of free speech in the press, which are slowly succeeding. Eventually we'll see just a government-run media, which shows the people what it wants them to see. Anyone following the events surrounding Mr.Berezovsky at all?
- Putin's power grab for neighboring countries reminds me of a certain 4-letter acronym that it seems someone high up in the power structure has in mind.
- Possible gov't-staged destruction of apartment blocks within Russia to justify their actions in Chechnya. This sounds a bit tin-foil-hat, but Putin's record is against him. He's a KGB man after all.

legolas · 10-23-2003, 11:02 AM

Russian's are banning words and we are allowing them.

The_Dude · 10-23-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by wrkime
You really had to wonder when something like this was going to happen. An economy in disarray, crime rampant, etc. You sure didn't have this when Communism ruled the Great Red World.

I think that they will have a fight on their hands returning to Communism, though. Too many of the younger generation are seemingly gung-ho about Capitalism and the "freedoms" that go with it. Of course, that's the spin we get here from our media outlets, so I could be talking out my ass, it would explain the halitosis. Anyway, it will be an interesting couple of decades for Mother Russia.

the russians chose their current system. they went out and protested against the coup. they voted for the current constitution and the concentration of power.

TheBrit · 10-23-2003, 12:13 PM

Guys, it isn't as if a policeman will hear Timski swearing in the street and give him a ticket or anything. More of a keeping up public morals kind of thing. Since when can a poster be put up in America with swear words all over it?

10-22-2003, 05:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Seems reasonable, politicians shouldn't use swear words, especially by hiding them in another language. "We will wipe them out of the shithouse", ah good ol Putin. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

10-22-2003, 06:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	dude, if you cant count on a russian to say exactly what hes thinking when hes thinking it, then who can you count on? __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

10-22-2003, 06:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	haha, no more freedom of speech. the move toward communism continues... __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

10-22-2003, 08:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nefir Junkie Location: Louisville, KY	If anyone thinks Russia is a democracy, they are sadly misled. This is not the first time freedom of speech has been infringed on by the CCC.. er I mean the Russian government, nor the last. I'm just glad they didn't get Berezovsky extradited from Greece, or the Russian people would lose alot more than public swearing... Keep your eyes open, West... Comrade Putin and friends have bigger goals than they'd like to admit. __________________ You do not use a Macintosh, instead you use a Tandy Kompressor break your glowstick, Kompressor eat your candy Kompressor open jaws, Kompressor release ants Kompressor watch you scream, Because Kompressor does not dance

10-23-2003, 11:02 AM	#15 (permalink)
legolas shit faced cockmaster Location: CT	Russian's are banning words and we are allowing them. __________________ "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

10-22-2003, 06:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
arael Banned	so george orwell was right...

10-22-2003, 07:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Soggybagel Psycho Location: Lovely City #1	Bullshit. Hahahha...okay. Now that I made my loserself laugh, i think that this is one of those crazy laws that will never work or hardly be enforced.

10-22-2003, 11:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
yellowgowild Psycho Location: Tampa	Wow, that's going to be tough. All the russians I know cuss like sailors. The way they explained their system of swearing would make you believe their society was founded upon it.

10-23-2003, 12:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
TheBrit Psycho	Guys, it isn't as if a policeman will hear Timski swearing in the street and give him a ticket or anything. More of a keeping up public morals kind of thing. Since when can a poster be put up in America with swear words all over it?