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tardka · 10-18-2003, 06:28 PM

Isn't evolution based a lot on survival of the fittest, and I can most surely say that has been ineffective in human society for a while now.

grumpyolddude · 10-18-2003, 07:21 PM

Nice, considered response Rogue. Well done!

mydragonfido · 10-20-2003, 01:38 AM

That is such a crock all the scientist trying to perdict things why cann't people leave things in gods hands!! He will take care of things!!!

Dibbler · 10-20-2003, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orodinn
No way the human race is ever gonna to survive that long.

If we last another 200 years it will be a miracle...

mb99usa · 10-20-2003, 08:50 AM

Its an interesting evolutionary theory, but let me ask: Why might we not evolve into something totally different?

Throughout history our species has continued to evolve. Look at the differences between say Asians and North Americans. Both physically and physiologically (sp?) we are different. This is because of environment and social pressures. Why should this not continue?

I agree that both sexes play a role bigger than just reproduction. Maybe there will be a merging of the 2 and we will get the best of both.

raeanna74 · 10-20-2003, 09:18 AM

I can't imagine a world without men. What would us women have to complain about except each other?

Honestly I don't see it as being possible. It would have to be a very controlled orchestrated environment and I don't think it's feasible to have a world that regulated. I don't want someone - anyone determining what kind of child I bare. I want the natural way of procreation - there is nothing so magical or miraculous. I think that kind of world would be soo cold. No thanks.

Nisses · 10-20-2003, 09:48 AM

here's an idea then. If life keeps evolving, and females possess the most stable DNA, then are it not the males that have the radical element, the most possible parametres and changes.

With most changes being well within the limits of acceptable and viable, and some falling outside, for the better or worse.

In that way I would look at female DNA as the tempering effect, and the male DNA as the blind & wild driving force behind DNA evolution.

So in that way I would say that a world without males is pointless, as is a world without females. Since a world with only female DNA is destined to fail, because not enough variety is present to overcome normal events in the world.
The same way, a world with only male DNA will die out, as a horrible collection of complete freaks and weirdo's

the thing is that atm human society is somewhat disconnected from normal influences of nature, so it doesn't completely hold up anymore, but I would still stand by it. You're never totally free of the planet you live on, no matter how civilised you think you and yours are.

Jasmar · 10-20-2003, 05:57 PM

I personally dont even understand the second articles theory for the weakening of the y. Is there even any proof that men are becoming less furtile? I mean I know there are less children per family then there have been for hundreds of years but that has more to do with economics then biology.

gabshu · 10-21-2003, 02:14 PM

I'm in the field of animal science and male animal are lately becoming obseote. For example, male turkeys have been bred to have such large breasts that they can no longer mate with the females, it must be done through artificial insemination. Semen can be frozen for years so it is always more favorable to have females of the species in animals such as dairy cows (obvious) and chicken. Does this mean that male individuals will become estinguished, I doubt it, but do they serve less purpuses

rsl12 · 10-21-2003, 02:28 PM

if asexual reproduction were the best way to evolve, amoebas would be smarter than us by now.

10-18-2003, 07:21 PM	#42 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	Nice, considered response Rogue. Well done! __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

10-20-2003, 08:50 AM	#45 (permalink)
mb99usa Keep on rolling. It only hurts for a little while. Location: wherever I am	Its an interesting evolutionary theory, but let me ask: Why might we not evolve into something totally different? Throughout history our species has continued to evolve. Look at the differences between say Asians and North Americans. Both physically and physiologically (sp?) we are different. This is because of environment and social pressures. Why should this not continue? I agree that both sexes play a role bigger than just reproduction. Maybe there will be a merging of the 2 and we will get the best of both. __________________ So, what's your point? It's not an attitude, it's a way of life.

10-20-2003, 09:18 AM	#46 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I can't imagine a world without men. What would us women have to complain about except each other? Honestly I don't see it as being possible. It would have to be a very controlled orchestrated environment and I don't think it's feasible to have a world that regulated. I don't want someone - anyone determining what kind of child I bare. I want the natural way of procreation - there is nothing so magical or miraculous. I think that kind of world would be soo cold. No thanks. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

10-20-2003, 09:48 AM	#47 (permalink)
Nisses Shade Location: Belgium	here's an idea then. If life keeps evolving, and females possess the most stable DNA, then are it not the males that have the radical element, the most possible parametres and changes. With most changes being well within the limits of acceptable and viable, and some falling outside, for the better or worse. In that way I would look at female DNA as the tempering effect, and the male DNA as the blind & wild driving force behind DNA evolution. So in that way I would say that a world without males is pointless, as is a world without females. Since a world with only female DNA is destined to fail, because not enough variety is present to overcome normal events in the world. The same way, a world with only male DNA will die out, as a horrible collection of complete freaks and weirdo's the thing is that atm human society is somewhat disconnected from normal influences of nature, so it doesn't completely hold up anymore, but I would still stand by it. You're never totally free of the planet you live on, no matter how civilised you think you and yours are. __________________ Moderation should be moderately moderated.

10-21-2003, 02:14 PM	#49 (permalink)
gabshu Psycho Location: The capital of the free world??	I'm in the field of animal science and male animal are lately becoming obseote. For example, male turkeys have been bred to have such large breasts that they can no longer mate with the females, it must be done through artificial insemination. Semen can be frozen for years so it is always more favorable to have females of the species in animals such as dairy cows (obvious) and chicken. Does this mean that male individuals will become estinguished, I doubt it, but do they serve less purpuses __________________ Go Kool Aid. OH YEAAHH http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2003/koolaid/

10-18-2003, 06:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
tardka Tilted	Isn't evolution based a lot on survival of the fittest, and I can most surely say that has been ineffective in human society for a while now.

10-20-2003, 01:38 AM	#43 (permalink)
mydragonfido Crazy Location: Louisiana	That is such a crock all the scientist trying to perdict things why cann't people leave things in gods hands!! He will take care of things!!!

10-20-2003, 05:57 PM	#48 (permalink)
Jasmar Crazy	I personally dont even understand the second articles theory for the weakening of the y. Is there even any proof that men are becoming less furtile? I mean I know there are less children per family then there have been for hundreds of years but that has more to do with economics then biology.

10-21-2003, 02:28 PM	#50 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	if asexual reproduction were the best way to evolve, amoebas would be smarter than us by now. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.