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Old 10-14-2003, 09:28 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Why fuck around with keeping this guy alive for the rest of his days on our dime? Just let the parents handle the 'justice' and this guy is a memory.

If someone does that to a kid, they should have no rights ...except their last-rites.
Why fuck around with keeping any of them around?

Steal a car? Execution
Rob someone? Execution
Kill someone? Definitely Execution.


Criminals aren't executed anymore save murder in some areas because incarceration is based on the idea of reform on the part of the convict. If there wasn't a belief in the ability of a human to change we probably would execute all criminals. The purpose of prison is to remove the offender from society and give them the time to reconsider their behavior and maybe think twice before offending again. If the crime is very heinous such as molestation or murder they get a loooonnnngg time to think about it.

My beef with this attitude is that you totally negate the spirit of the justice system by advocating mob justice. Is the system flawed? Sure. Is it the best we've come up with to date? Unfortunately yes. If the offender does the time alloted to his crime he should be given a chance to reassimilate himself into the society. I don't think a molester should be allowed to work in any venue with kids, amusement parks, day cares, etc etc. But he needs to work somewhere...he should have as much chance as any other convict to rebuild his life. As I stated above pedophilia is not a chosen fetish, most fetishes aren't. When a pedo crosses the line and molests he should be punished, and he should be counseled. But I can't agree with torture and execution just because the crime is more heinous in our society than murder. When you advocate the revocation of the rights of molesters you also open the door for other criminals to be punished in a similar fashion, which throws the whole concept of rehabilitation out the window.


What if the "offender" is actually innocent? Imagine if you downloaded some child porn off usenet by mistake, which yes it does happen occasionally due to spamming trolls and crossposts to general groups. You dl 10000 pics all at once in a.b.p.erotica and don't sort them for a few days. A family member does a search for something and finds the child porn on your HDD. They report you and you go to jail for something you weren't even aware you had on there. Now you're in jail and the cons find out what you're in for and you get the fuck beat out of you or you're killed...for nothing. Or if a child just doesn't like you and say you touched them when you never did. That's happened a few times in stepfamilies when the child hates the stepdad. So the guy is innocent but he goes right to jail to deal with the "justice" there. If he manages to get cleared for it his reputation is till tarnished, since no one will believe he was really innocent.

Attitudes like this are just recipes for ruined lives in the rare case of an innocent person and tarnish the concept of our entire justice system even further than it is on it's own..
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:05 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Dude, you can't interject any kind of logic and rational compassion into a thread that only exists so people can boldly denounce child molesters on the internet.
I agree with you completely.
Before i read your post i thought of suggesting that this thread should be moved to the nonsense board because it really lacks any substance or thought, and consists almost solely of one sentence posts.
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