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Jim Kata · 10-06-2003, 09:49 AM

Reading Tirian's post reminded me of just how much I hate our species' greed.
And whats even worse is, I'm the kind of person that will BITCH about it, but not do anything about it.

legolas · 10-06-2003, 10:48 AM

I know the jokes are just rolling in from serveral places and peolple but I feel bad for him.

Jim Kata · 10-06-2003, 11:10 AM

Awwww, Roy still loves his baby

'Don't kill cat' - Roy

By ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

"Don't kill the cat."
That was famed tiger tamer Roy Horn's plea to rescuers as they tried to stanch the blood pouring from his neck after one of his beloved felines attacked him, a friend said yesterday.

Horn, who remained in critical last night, was still conscious when rescuers showed up at the MGM Mirage hotel-casino after Friday's shocking attack during Siegfried and Roy's famous Vegas magic act.

He used what few words he could speak to negotiate a pardon for his attacker, named Montecore, said Amy Fink, a family friend.

"Don't kill the cat," he told Las Vegas paramedics, she said.

Horn was heavily sedated but able to respond to voices last night by squeezing visitors' hands and giving the thumbs-up sign.

Montecore is a rare white Siberian tiger. It remains in a holding pen at the Mirage, its fate unknown.

There had been no attacks in the more than 5,000 shows Horn and longtime partner Siegfried Fischbacher have performed at the hotel, said Bernie Yuman, their manager.

"The last place Roy would place blame would be with the animal," Yuman said.

While the attack may not mean the end of Montecore, it could doom one of the Vegas Strip's most popular shows. Employees have been told look for new jobs over the weekend, Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said. Even if Horn recovers, it's unclear whether he would be able to perform again.

Horn was attacked in the part of the show when he introduces the act's big cats to the audience.

Montecore is known to his handlers as one of the most cooperative animals. But Friday night, he wouldn't walk in the right direction, so Horn whacked him five times on the cheek with his microphone.

The tiger apparently didn't like it - and bit Horn's arm and lunged for his neck.

"Horn looked like a rag doll in the tiger's mouth," said audience member Kirk Baser of Pennsylvania.

Horn underwent surgery late Friday and again Saturday at the Las Vegas University Medical Center. Friends would not confirm reports that Horn suffered a stroke Saturday that prompted the second surgery to remove pressure on his brain.

I guess I was wrong, it was a siberian.

Tirian · 10-06-2003, 11:59 AM

or

By ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

is wrong...

Perhaps Roy's tiger is a cross, and hence the confusion.
According to ...

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/

Both males and females have more white in their coats than other subspecies and coat colour is more gold than orange.

The Amur subspecies has less striping than other tiger types and the stripes are more brown than black. Almost no stripes appear on the outer area of the front legs.

<<>>

The myth of the white Siberian tiger:

The gene for a white coat is not considered to occur in the Amur tiger. Though there have been very occasional claims of white tigers sighted in the wild none can be proven with photographic evidence. If the white coat does actually occur in the Amur subspecies it certainly seems most strange that it has not happened in captivity, considering the captive numbers of this subspecies outweigh the remaining wild tigers.

People are often confused by captive cats they think are white Amur tigers. This term may mistakenly be used to refer to a hybrid Bengal tiger which has some Amur genetic 'pollution'. However, the white coat colour will have arisen from Bengal parentage.

StormBerlin · 10-06-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IC3
I hope they don't kill the tiger.

I remember as a kid going to the circus and watching them have tigers do tricks and everything...I loved it.

But remember, It's a tiger..Something that could pretty much take your face off with one swipe of his paw.

I have total respect for the trainers who can train these big kitty's to be friendly...but...I don't care if this tiger has been under human care since birth..It's still a tiger that has the killing instict..and the risk of it eating you for lunch is always there.

It mentioned that it was a white tiger...So it was a siberian tiger, A tiger that is almost extinct.

If these people want to risk doing shows with a predator animal, That's fine by me...But when it turns on them, They can't blame the animal. That's what they do..There hunters.

I really hope this tiger can just be sent to some kind of shelter where they take care of these beautifull cats..and keep them safe from pochers or whatever those guys are called.

As fascinating as it is to see humans interacting with such a dangerous animal...I don't think it's right, These things belong in the wild..Or in the shelters away from pochers like I said above.

I know and you know what the risks are of an animal like this turning on it's trainers...And when the tiger does decide he's had enough of that whip...Your gonna know it.

I will be livid if I read that they put the tiger down.

I agree with you conpletely. Although I don't go to the Circus because I've heard horror stories about them abusing their animals. I also thing that those kinds of animals belong in the wild... it's so sad for them to be imprisioned.

splck · 10-06-2003, 07:58 PM

I hope the guy ends up ok.
I never saw the appeal of wild animal shows. Seeing a large cat sit on a stool and jump to another stool just isn't my thing.

Hanxter · 10-10-2003, 04:50 AM

vermin · 10-10-2003, 05:27 AM

Quote:

a true story by Anleja...

Meanwhile, the tiger was sleeping in his cage to the side of the stage. He was having a dream. Africa.

A tiger, in Africa?

Might want to be careful with that "true story" header.

Maybe the "tiger show" would be a good replacement for the woodchipper for disposing of child molesters, wife beaters, etc. Just have to lock up the fire extinguishers.

10-06-2003, 10:48 AM	#42 (permalink)
legolas shit faced cockmaster Location: CT	I know the jokes are just rolling in from serveral places and peolple but I feel bad for him. __________________ "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

10-06-2003, 11:59 AM	#44 (permalink)
Tirian Addict Location: Canada	or By ALISON GENDAR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER is wrong... Perhaps Roy's tiger is a cross, and hence the confusion. According to ... http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/ Both males and females have more white in their coats than other subspecies and coat colour is more gold than orange. The Amur subspecies has less striping than other tiger types and the stripes are more brown than black. Almost no stripes appear on the outer area of the front legs. <<>> The myth of the white Siberian tiger: The gene for a white coat is not considered to occur in the Amur tiger. Though there have been very occasional claims of white tigers sighted in the wild none can be proven with photographic evidence. If the white coat does actually occur in the Amur subspecies it certainly seems most strange that it has not happened in captivity, considering the captive numbers of this subspecies outweigh the remaining wild tigers. People are often confused by captive cats they think are white Amur tigers. This term may mistakenly be used to refer to a hybrid Bengal tiger which has some Amur genetic 'pollution'. However, the white coat colour will have arisen from Bengal parentage. Last edited by Tirian; 10-06-2003 at 12:10 PM..

10-06-2003, 07:58 PM	#46 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	I hope the guy ends up ok. I never saw the appeal of wild animal shows. Seeing a large cat sit on a stool and jump to another stool just isn't my thing. __________________ nice line eh?

10-06-2003, 09:49 AM	#41 (permalink)
Jim Kata Swollen Member Location: Northern VA	Reading Tirian's post reminded me of just how much I hate our species' greed. And whats even worse is, I'm the kind of person that will BITCH about it, but not do anything about it.

10-06-2003, 11:10 AM	#43 (permalink)
Jim Kata Swollen Member Location: Northern VA	Awwww, Roy still loves his baby 'Don't kill cat' - Roy By ALISON GENDAR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER "Don't kill the cat." That was famed tiger tamer Roy Horn's plea to rescuers as they tried to stanch the blood pouring from his neck after one of his beloved felines attacked him, a friend said yesterday. Horn, who remained in critical last night, was still conscious when rescuers showed up at the MGM Mirage hotel-casino after Friday's shocking attack during Siegfried and Roy's famous Vegas magic act. He used what few words he could speak to negotiate a pardon for his attacker, named Montecore, said Amy Fink, a family friend. "Don't kill the cat," he told Las Vegas paramedics, she said. Horn was heavily sedated but able to respond to voices last night by squeezing visitors' hands and giving the thumbs-up sign. Montecore is a rare white Siberian tiger. It remains in a holding pen at the Mirage, its fate unknown. There had been no attacks in the more than 5,000 shows Horn and longtime partner Siegfried Fischbacher have performed at the hotel, said Bernie Yuman, their manager. "The last place Roy would place blame would be with the animal," Yuman said. While the attack may not mean the end of Montecore, it could doom one of the Vegas Strip's most popular shows. Employees have been told look for new jobs over the weekend, Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said. Even if Horn recovers, it's unclear whether he would be able to perform again. Horn was attacked in the part of the show when he introduces the act's big cats to the audience. Montecore is known to his handlers as one of the most cooperative animals. But Friday night, he wouldn't walk in the right direction, so Horn whacked him five times on the cheek with his microphone. The tiger apparently didn't like it - and bit Horn's arm and lunged for his neck. "Horn looked like a rag doll in the tiger's mouth," said audience member Kirk Baser of Pennsylvania. Horn underwent surgery late Friday and again Saturday at the Las Vegas University Medical Center. Friends would not confirm reports that Horn suffered a stroke Saturday that prompted the second surgery to remove pressure on his brain. I guess I was wrong, it was a siberian.

10-10-2003, 04:50 AM	#47 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin