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Liquor Dealer 04-24-2003 09:57 AM

Dixie Chicks Latest Faux Pas
 
The Dizzy Chicks have seen the bet and raised it three! The Chicks are posing nude on the cover of Entertainment Weekly- The sisters are standing in front of (maybe trying to hide) Maines but it didn't help much. They have comments written on their 'bodies' procliming their cause - Think it'll help? Or hurt them even more than their previous experience with hoof and mouth disease?

Jesus Pimp 04-24-2003 09:58 AM

Here ya go..

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com.../mdf263141.jpg

They have nice asses..

LordEden 04-24-2003 10:14 AM

I don't know, looks to me to be more media bullshit and hype... but if they are willing to get nekid on the front cover (I'd like to see some uncencored shots of this :) I'm all for it. It makes a statement, that's for sure.

Troublebot 04-24-2003 10:20 AM

I don't know, didn't it seem like things were calming down? Isn't this just going to stir it up again?

Celebs are kinda self-centered aren't they?

Cynthetiq 04-24-2003 10:21 AM

i'm looking forward to the Diane Sawyer interview on Friday night...

Daval 04-24-2003 10:21 AM

interesting tactic. I'm sure this will help them more than hinder them.

GuttersnipeXL 04-24-2003 10:24 AM

To be quite honest, I could care less what some country pop stars have to say...to me their voice is meaningless. It's a corny publicity stunt, that their PR people created to make everybody remember their antics a few weeks ago. "Hey look at us! We're naked renegade popstars! Pleasegive us the attention thatwe think we deserve!" I don't know.

JoeyB 04-24-2003 10:24 AM

I'm still amazed that so many people are worried about what 3 country singers think.

I like their music. I don't care how they feel about politicians, the war, current events or arts & crafts.

Magazine covers like that are never a bad thing.

It will sell a few more issues, give them a chance to speak their mind....if you don't like them, don't buy the magazine and everybody wins.

rockogre 04-24-2003 10:35 AM

I don't follow the hicky chiks so I don't know their names but the one on the right is smoking.

I like "Sin Wagon" but it's the only song I know the name of from them.

I'll stick with ZZ Top, the Stones, and Arrowsmith.

rock_bottom 04-24-2003 10:37 AM

I just think if you're going to attack celebs for speaking out against the war or Bush, then you shouldn't be fine with other celebs taking a loud pro-war stance. Free speech doesn't work only when you agree with it.

Charlatan 04-24-2003 10:44 AM

I've never understodd why people were upset with them... Afterall don't they represent the best of America? The ability to say what's on your mind without fear of censorship?

Besides they are just musicians.

Somenosuke 04-24-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock_bottom
I just think if you're going to attack celebs for speaking out against the war or Bush, then you shouldn't be fine with other celebs taking a loud pro-war stance. Free speech doesn't work only when you agree with it.
Thank you for articulating and posting what was on my mind. :)

World's King 04-24-2003 11:10 AM

Wow, she's not as fat as we all thought... she actually has anice looking body.


Damn there goes all the good jokes.

tommyboy 04-24-2003 11:15 AM

saddams angels? wtf.

kairaan 04-24-2003 11:16 AM

I'm not against any hollywood or music celebrity speaking out on the war...I just don't see why they're all being taken so seriously. Anyone else notice on Fark.com how many stories have musicians and movie stars giving their opinions on the war? Paul McCartney even criticized the military tactics we used! My question is when the hell did these people become political analysts?

Somenosuke 04-24-2003 11:33 AM

I wonder, what makes a celebrity any less qualified to voice their opinion than the average joe on the street?

yournamehere 04-24-2003 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Wow, she's not as fat as we all thought... she actually has anice looking body.
Damn - where the hell is <b>LiquorDealer</b>?

We argued over that on the old board. Hey <b>LD</b> - I <i>told</i> you she wasn't fat any more!

As far as the publicity stunt - they're probably smart enough to have figured out that the best way to get back into a man's good graces is by giving him a hard-on.

That's a pretty universal truth - right, guys?

JoeyB 04-24-2003 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Somenosuke
I wonder, what makes a celebrity any less qualified to voice their opinion than the average joe on the street?

Celebrities aren't less qualified than Joe Sixpack, but they aren't any MORE qualified either.

They can sing well, act well etc. When they go out of their area of expertise, I would hope that all of us would be open-minded enough to take what they say with a grain of salt.

yournamehere 04-24-2003 12:03 PM

Just wanted to add (and it's a completely different thought - THAT'S why I didn't use the edit button):

Is that cover real?
The more I look at the picture, the more I am thinking, "That is very, very hot."

I mean, other than a (possibly) strategically placed patch of material, Natalie is pretty damn nekkid!

TheComingCurse 04-24-2003 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Somenosuke
I wonder, what makes a celebrity any less qualified to voice their opinion than the average joe on the street?
They're not. Not at all. BUT does the average Joe have anywhere near the influence of the average celebrity? I think not.

raeanna74 04-24-2003 12:16 PM

I think they have great bodies and I know sex sells. But personally I think that using their bodies in this way to promote their ideals actually distracts from the message they are trying to send. What does their nudity really have to do with speaking out against war? I can think about many other ways they could get the message across without blurring it with their bodies. Maybe there's a message in there I didn't get but I think they should have maybe done it another way. I know I would listen closer if it weren't combined with nudity. There are many people out there who are against public nudity and even soft porn that will completely block out this particular message simply because of how it was presented. Still the picture is artistic and they have lovely bodies - I can't help but enjoy it. I just think they would have made more impact another way.

troit 04-24-2003 12:44 PM

You want my opinion -- The Dixie who?!?!


I never listened to them before and won't listen to them now, no matter what crazy stunts they do....

sierra2774 04-24-2003 01:03 PM

I am kinda shocked they did that. But I like it. I have tickets to a sold out concert of theirs and I am wondering how that will go.

I didn't think Natalie was that skinny, she looks good for having a baby recently.

sixate 04-24-2003 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by troit
You want my opinion -- The Dixie who?!?!


I never listened to them before and won't listen to them now, no matter what crazy stunts they do....

That's pretty much how I feel too. I dislike them sooo much that I don't even want to see them naked. Plus if they didn't airbrush the fuck out of that picture I'm sure they'd all look brutal.

davidc209 04-24-2003 01:20 PM

Media hype. I never listened to them, nor will I. However, the brunette girl is pretty hot and if she wants to get naked, she gets a HERO tag from me! ;)

JoeyB 04-24-2003 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
Plus if they didn't airbrush the fuck out of that picture I'm sure they'd all look brutal.

Isn't that sad? You're probably right and it's probably true more times than we care to know about. Never trust the picture--only believe after you've seen them up close.

spectre 04-24-2003 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheComingCurse
They're not. Not at all. BUT does the average Joe have anywhere near the influence of the average celebrity? I think not.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The average Joe can't just go up on stage before a group of fans and get press coverage for stating his opinion.

JumpinJesus 04-24-2003 02:04 PM

I have never been a fan. The attention that they're getting has more to do with the fact that they're nude than what they said.

Our culture (Americana) is so pre-occupied with star-worship and the like that their message is lost. Ask most people about the Dixie Chicks and they'll be aware of them posing nude but won't be aware of what they said to get them this attention.

What do you expect from a nation where more people watch the Super Bowl than vote in an election?

Macheath 04-24-2003 03:00 PM

That's pretty cool.

degrawj 04-24-2003 03:04 PM

i have agreed with their statements, and i'm glad that they are standing up for themselves now. not to mention the are fucking hot.

SysteMatiC 04-24-2003 03:15 PM

I say good for them, im all for it. It is good see people who take a stand and stay with it even after they were bashed for it.

ARTelevision 04-24-2003 03:59 PM

public relations is mass hypnosis

but you already know that...

yournamehere 04-24-2003 04:03 PM

And I'll take my hypnosis with a side of boobies, please.

/America talking

apetaster 04-24-2003 04:34 PM

Wow - the heifer has dropped a few pounds - still has a way to go. The one on the right is cute, and I'd be interested in finding out if the one on the left has something tucked between her legs.

I could not stand them before their latest faux pas/publicity stunt, and feel the same way now about them.

greytone 04-24-2003 04:56 PM

I was out of the country when the original statement was made and I was not getting a lot of the news, so I kind of aware of this whole controversy in the late stages. But I feel like I need to make a few points to overcome some misunderstandings about the issues involved.

1) The right to free speech as guarenteed in the US constitution does not apply in England where the statements were made.

2) The right to free speech does not absolve the speaker of any consequences for making certain statements. All it means, is that the government will not impose sanctions on the speaker. Private citizens are free to impose any sanctions they want. The right to free speech does not extend to the right to eternally sold out concert venues and best selling records.

3) I don't have any respect for celebrities who use their publicity capital to make ad hominem attacks on those they disagree with. They certainly have a right to make those statements, but they will fall in my estimation. I don't have any problem with celebrities using there position to champion causes I disagree with, as long as they do so with some degree of logic and intellectual honesty.

4) As an American, if you want to make negative comment on official government policy, do it on American soil. Don't belittle US leaders or policy overseas in order to sell more albums. These kind of actions (not so much in this case) are used for propoganda by oppressive regimes. That can come close to treason when it reaches Jane Fonda levels.

5) A rap or pop artist would have little or no career problems after a statement like this. If you are in country music, you should know your audience. I don't think their fans are going to forgive them.

krwlz 04-24-2003 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockogre
I don't follow the hicky chiks so I don't know their names but the one on the right is smoking.

I like "Sin Wagon" but it's the only song I know the name of from them.

I'll stick with ZZ Top, the Stones, and Arrowsmith.

i agree man, i know a few more songs because country is always on at work, but who the hell cares? stick with classic rock! (By the way, you forgot Zeppelin!)

i think they need some adjustment inside their heads personaly....an oak 2x4 might do nicely....

rock_bottom 04-24-2003 05:18 PM

My comment was about how a celeb can say they're pro-war, and everyone is fine with it, but if they say they're anti-war, all of the sudden people are coming out of the woodwork about how they're unqualified to make comment on international affairs. No one seems to question the policy knowledge of those celebs who take a pro-Bush stance.
I think it's silly that some celebs are acting like their free speech is being infringed on over reactions to their anti-war stances. But my comment was more about how many people don't have a problem with celebs speaking their minds, until they start disagreeing with the celeb.

The_Dude 04-24-2003 05:21 PM

i think they're gonna lose more respect w/ this stunt

lukeswalewalker 04-24-2003 05:34 PM

how can anyone have a rational outlook on any situation when they are continually catered to and constantly told how important they are in order to sooth their fragile egos.

yabobo 04-24-2003 05:53 PM

Leave them alone they are un educated kids
that ran their mouths the wrong way.
They are sorry but still can't express what they want.
Their boots are in really deep shit!!!!!
Don't buy their albums or cd's they will be HISTORY!!!!

blkdmnd 04-24-2003 06:20 PM

Aairbrushing is a wonderful thing. They all look good. But, if she really is that thin, I want to see more.

I don't put much faith in anything entertainers say. Their opinons aren't any more radical than some of the comments on these boards. They just have a bigger stage.

Come on people, are you really going to let the opinions of some country band influence the way you feel about current political events?

Don't let me down....

TRPF 04-24-2003 07:03 PM

Can't sell albums, now they're selling their bodies?

At any rate, should sell more...

BubblegumTeflon 04-24-2003 07:05 PM

Well they're certainly bold. I would say this is a typical attempt to roll with the punches. Instead of shying away they flaunt what they've got. It's a common reaction for people in entertainment, and one of the best ways to promote a certain kind of "image".

SaltPork 04-24-2003 07:07 PM

Not a big country music fan, but I would definitely do the tall thin ones...they're hot.

Johnny Rotten 04-24-2003 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TRPF
Can't sell albums, now they're selling their bodies?

At any rate, should sell more...

Funny part is, the girl in the middle hasn't been that svelte in years. That image is heavily doctored, I suspect, because here's what's really going on:

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...-00darts-1.jpg

K-Billy 04-24-2003 08:43 PM

they were starting to get less attention, so they decided to get more attention. unfortunately for them, they probably pissed a ton of people off. but it gets them attention. damn media whores.

fugue_life 04-25-2003 02:21 AM

Actually not to contradict anyone but the chics albums have actually increased in sales since the "Bush is from texas thing." And they have sold more albums in the last 7 years then every band outhere except for Creed. Which in my opinion, supports the idea that our civilization is in a steady decline.

SecretMethod70 04-25-2003 02:57 AM

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

As for their appearance, the cover I'm sure is QUITE airbrushed. Think back to the big deal with Kate Winslet and whatever magazine cover she was on. She looked like a totally different person.

sbscout 04-25-2003 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock_bottom
... a celeb can say they're pro-war, and everyone is fine with it, but if they say they're anti-war, all of the sudden people are coming out of the woodwork about how they're unqualified to make comment on international affairs. No one seems to question the policy knowledge of those celebs who take a pro-Bush stance.


well said, rock_bottom.

SecretMethod70 04-25-2003 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock_bottom
... a celeb can say they're pro-war, and everyone is fine with it, but if they say they're anti-war, all of the sudden people are coming out of the woodwork about how they're unqualified to make comment on international affairs. No one seems to question the policy knowledge of those celebs who take a pro-Bush stance.


I question the knowledge of a celeb making any stance. What makes them know more than me? What makes them qualified to speak at conferences and on TV about issues? If they want to teach acting or singing or dancing or whatever, that's great. Otherwise I don't find them to be qualified to speak about other things until they prove their knowledge in them. I don't want to hear Tim Robbins speak out about helping the environment - something which I greatly support - I want to hear experts in the field and people who have experience speak about it.


"...each of them, because of his success at his craft, thought himself very wise in other most important pursuits, and this error of theirs overshadowed the wisdom they had"
-- Plato, Apology, 22d-e

Reese 04-25-2003 04:09 AM

http://home.apex.net/~acrunk/dixie.jpg

I'm not a dixie chick fan and I dont care what thier opinions are, as long as they keep posing nude.

rsl12 04-25-2003 04:24 AM

what is the issue they're trying to promote? you can't tell just looking at the picture.

sixate 04-25-2003 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by degrawj
i'm glad that they are standing up for themselves now. not to mention the are fucking hot.
First. They aren't hot.

Second they aren't standing up for anything. All they've been doing since they realized that their dumb statements cost them album sales is try to explain themselves and take back what they said. You call that standing up?

Antagony 04-25-2003 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cybermike
I'm not a dixie chick fan and I dont care what thier opinions are, as long as they keep posing nude.
Amen, brother!

Peetster 04-25-2003 05:22 AM

Saddam's Angels? I'll never support the Chixy Dicks again.

SecretMethod70 04-25-2003 05:23 AM

oh my God, how many times do we have to point out the airbrushing? LOL

Yeah, the cover looks decent and all but THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT.

Besides, what they look like isn't the issue here.

Charlatan 04-25-2003 05:29 AM

Why are they Saddam's Angels? Just because they said they are embarrased that Bush comes from Texas?

So let me get this straight... anyone who is critical of Bush is pro-Saddam... give me a break.

That kind of thinking is just ignorant.

Had they actaully stood up and said, "we love Saddam" You might have a case...

dankitti 04-25-2003 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision
public relations is mass hypnosis

but you already know that...

i do actally. but you know i know that. :D

ARTelevision 04-25-2003 02:34 PM

sorry, SecretMethod70, but I'm going to urge and seek out some research on the production of this.

I'm wondering if those are even their bodies or if this is a photoshopped "celebrity fake".

It matters because the less "truth" involved in their expressions the less "honest" the "statement" and it follows the less "value" is conveyed by their "message".

The words in quotes are so pitifully evoked by these three that even the most generous assessment of their "authenticity" is seriously lacking right out of the starting gate.

Some publicity stunts are "better" than others.

krazykemist 04-28-2003 03:05 AM

I for one am tired of how the media hypes up the importance of celebrity opinions on almost everything not just war. The war is just the hot topic at the moment, last yeah it was the terrorist attack, before that it was the school shootings.
I do not hold any regard for their opinions on military tactics or government policies. I like them for their music/acting/talents. Essentially what made them a celebrity in the first place. Their uneducated voicing of opinions just makes it harder for me to pick up that next dvd or cd in which they made.

The following is an email that I recieved from a friend, I do not know the origin as it was embedded deep within many forwards. Even though I may not agree with some of our nations leaders there is a reason that they are in that position and should be respected as such. This is a great read and puts those vocal celebrities in their place.

"The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get with names like "stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.


So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:


President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard.

Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B. A. in 1965 and a M. A. in 1966, both in political science.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U. S. and foreign military awards and decorations.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB,1954) and served in the U. S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie, he earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U. S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph. D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude).


So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience?

Barbra Streisand: Completed high school. Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting

Jessica Lange: Dropped out of college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington. Career: Acting

Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting

Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner: Completed High school. Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Janeane Garofalo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN. We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders."


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