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Old 08-13-2003, 02:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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5. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

7. Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling

13. The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger

27. The Witches by Roald Dahl
ROALD DAHL??? WHAT ON EARTH ? Who are these people that make up these lists... 50 years ago, we had a black list of banned books by the church as well. There was 1 book in there called "Pallieter". The sole reason why it was banned was the following sentence: "And then Pallieter went swimming in his bare parts (skinny-dipping) in the Nete (a local river)..."
Apparently this stuff is still going on? Banning books because of ridiculous reasons...
Just for the record: Roald Dahl writes children stories and is damn good at it too (or was anyway, he's dead) with a bit of an edge maybe, but it's over 10 years old... Why ban it now?

33. Killing Mr. Griffin by Lois Duncan
This one is kind of morbid in a peerpressure way, but still...

52. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Duh


6. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
MORE ROALD DAHL? Argl... Some people...

57. The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell
Figures... Oh well, nothing that shocking that you can't find on the net anyway.

60. American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
Lol, good one

84. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
Meh... Getting depressed

88. Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford
Those books aren't available here, but from the net I can guess the content But then, if they ban Dahl, I'm not surprised.

hmm, only 10 books, I need to work through that list some time...
edit: it says "most challenged books". Is that the same as banned or not?
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:19 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I didn't read every post, so pardon me if this has been stated, but ALA does not advocate banning these books. This is just a list of books that Christian advocacy groups would like removed from school libraries.

Just trying to keep the air clear. I don't think there is any threat of these disappearing from book stores or anything like that. Yet.
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Are these being banned from schools or libraries in general?
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:44 PM   #44 (permalink)
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They aren't being banned anywhere.
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:20 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: Let's all read a book...before it's banned

One * means I read it. Wo stars means my public school district required it and I read it. Anything else, I'll just give a short reason if I know why it was challenged/banned


2. Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
-Homosexuality

5.** The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
-Racist language

6. **Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
-Supposedly advocates communism

7.* Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling
-Witchcraft is evil, right? Even the Pope gave this two thumbs up

9.** Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
-I'm guessing they don't like it because it involves death of a child.

11. Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
-You know gays are evil and God hates them, right?

12.** My Brother Sam is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
-violence (Am. Revolution)

13.** The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
-At one point, The main character enters an elementary school, and sees the word "FUCK" in graffitti on the wall

14.** The Giver by Lois Lowry

16.* Goosebumps (Series) by R.L. Stine
-My guess would be the gross-out stuff that draws little kids to it

17.* A Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Newton Peck

19. Sex by Madonna
-Sex is evil, right?

22.** A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

23.** Go Ask Alice by Anonymous

24.* Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Myers
-About Vietnam, even my school put a warning on the summer reading list that it has graphivc language.

25.*In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
-Maybe ti's the part where the kid goes swimming in a huge bottle of milk naked?

27.* The Witches by Roald Dahl
-We all know why this is banned

28. The New Joy of Gay Sex by Charles Silverstein
-Gays and sex, big taboo

31.*Kaffir Boy by Mark Mathabane
-Racism, I think

35.*We All Fall Down by Robert Cormier

41.**To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
-Racist language used to show conditions that people had to live in is interpreted as Racist

43.** The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
-Violence, death of kids

47.** Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
-Either the tiny bit of sex, or the people who want teaching of evolution banned

51.* A Light in the Attic by Shel Silverstein

52.* Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
-I guess it's just too much for closed minds to handle

53.* Sleeping Beauty Trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice)

56.* James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

57.* The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell
-The only one on this list that I could even comprehend why someone wouldn't like it. It tells you how to make bombs and stuff

61.* What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Boys: A Growing-Up Guide for Parents & Sons by
Lynda Madaras
-Possibly the most informative book I've ever read on the human body and growing up

68.* The Face on the Milk Carton by Caroline Cooney

69.** Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
-Concentration camp, sex, violence

70.** Lord of the Flies by William Golding
-Kid died, supposedly hints at communism

77.* Carrie by Stephen King

83.* The Dead Zone by Stephen King

84.* The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
-Racist language typical of the time.

87.* Private Parts by Howard Stern
-It's Howard Stern, what more is there to say?

88.** Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford

-WTF? They gave us these to read in first grade!

89.** Summer of My German Soldier by Bette Greene

96.* How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell


I've read 32 of them, 15 were required for school before college. My public school district has no banned book, even the bible, Koran, and other holy books are taught about and given out to read parts of. Nobody has ever successfully fought that freedom, although I wouldn't count on being able to bring in the Anarchist's Cookbook after the Columbine shooting.

In some schools (yes, in the Bible Belt,) The Oxford English Dictionary is banned for profanity and indecency.

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Old 08-13-2003, 03:30 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Put me down for #12. I highly recomend #20. Granted its a series of 5 books, but its still one helluva a read, ive read the entire series three times over. Jean auel is a great discriptive author that brings the time an era alive.
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 08-13-2003, 04:34 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Damn well I have read at least 16 of those and I'm no worse for wear..... go ahead and put me down for 59. Ordinary People....
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Old 08-13-2003, 05:14 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I've had to read several of those for school over the years, and I am currently reading #60, American Psycho.
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Old 08-13-2003, 05:44 PM   #50 (permalink)
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it says "most challenged books". Is that the same as banned or not?
Sorry to say this all again, but I feel it needs to be restated. This list, which is compiled by the ALA, is simply a list of the most challenged books around the country. What that means is that in Public Libraries, School Libraries, and in school Curriculum, these books have numerous complaints about them. People complain that these books should be taken out of a specific library, (not ALL libraries) because certain people take offence at the most rediculous things. For instance, a complaint was logged against Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five, because it showed an "unpatriotic view of war". Dr. Suess's The Lorax had a complaint against it because it had a view that was "not supportive of the logging industry". Etc, etc. I just wanted to make it clear that these books are not actually being banned, in the scariest sense of the word, but some groups out there sometimes succeed in getting certain books pulled from libraries. The ALA is of course 100% for the freedom of speech, and this is why they compile this list, to raise awareness. I hope this clears some of this confusion up.
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:27 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Holy Crap...I've already read a bunch of those books...nerd.
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:56 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I promise Iwill read "Annie on my mind" I totally forgot about how badly I wanted to read that in HS!!! They actually already banned it in a neighboring school district.. even burned copies of it... out of that list I have already read...

1. Scary Stories (Series) by Alvin Schwartz
2. Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
3. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
5. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
6. Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
7. Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling (Seen the movies.. ?)
8. Forever by Judy Blume
13. The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
16. Goosebumps (Series) by R.L. Stine (Read every one, even the "pick your own ending" bull shit!)
18. The Color Purple by Alice Walker
19. Sex by Madonna (LOVED IT!)
22. A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
26. The Stupids (Series) by Harry Allard (Hilarious books, crappy movies!)
32. Blubber by Judy Blume
39. The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
41. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
42. Beloved by Toni Morrison (Fucking HATED THIS BOOK!)
43. The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
45. Bumps in the Night by Harry Allard
46. Deenie by Judy Blume
47. Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
51. A Light in the Attic by Shel Silverstein
52. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
55. Cujo by Stephen King
56. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
57. The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell (Haven't read, but I have SEEN it, and I heard thats enough to get me on some sort of FBI list..)
59. Ordinary People by Judith Guest
60. American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
62. Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume
69. Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
70. Lord of the Flies by William Golding
74. Jack by A.M. Homes
77. Carrie by Stephen King
78. Tiger Eyes by Judy Blume
83. The Dead Zone by Stephen King
84. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
85. Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison
87. Private Parts by Howard Stern
88. Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford
89. Summer of My German Soldier by Bette Greene
96. How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

oddly enough, I read most of these for school, in my AP classes, or did book reports on them to piss of the teachers or my other English classes, or read them because I heard they were just oh so delightfully scandelous (there really is no other excuse for actually having flipped through Stern's "Private Parts," may god have mercy on my soul)


So........... let me get this right.. is #88 Where's Waldo like the "find the guy in his red and white striped hat/shirt and jeans, and try to find his wizard friend and dog too" the Where's Waldo they are talking about!? If so, those morons should be shot.. or.. put in prison, and forced to find Waldo everyday...
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:17 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Where do you live that people actually burn books? That's insane.
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Old 08-14-2003, 12:51 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Southern part of Kansas City, KS.. which is basically fused with KCMO "In Kansas City, Missouri, a handful of protesters burned a copy of Annie on My Mind." <- Link to article
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Old 08-14-2003, 02:24 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm always sad to see so many Judy Blume books on those sorts of lists. I received so much of my "other" education through those books...
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Old 08-14-2003, 03:59 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I got the first one of these coming in the mail to me, already. put me down!
53. Sleeping Beauty Trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice)
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Old 08-14-2003, 04:35 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Where do you live that people actually burn books? That's insane.

<i>“On Sunday evening, members of the Harvest Assembly of God Church in Penn Township sing songs
as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have judged offensive to their God.”</i>
Published in the Butler Eagle, March 26, 2001. Courtesy of the Butler Eagle.

From my own home state of Pennsylvania, no less. That just adds salt to an open wound.

Also, to clarify, no...these books are <b>not</b> banned. They are being <b>challenged</b>. This means that there are certain groups of people, left <b>and</b> right wing (so no finger pointing), that <b>want</b> these books banned or removed from libraries and schools. Although they are rarely successful, they do have enough successes under their belts to be considered a danger to every man, woman and child that believes in intellectual freedom, and freedom of thought.


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5. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn...JSD
9. Bridge to Terabithia............................lurkette
12. My Brother Sam is Dead................... bparker805
13. The Catcher in the Rye.....................Silvy
18. The Color Purple...............................sandeep
24. Fallen Angels ...................................shalafi
37. The Handmaid’s Tale........................denim
41. To Kill a Mockingbird.........................Cedar
48. Annie on my Mind.............................BrinlyNoya
52. Brave New World..............................TwistedFate
53. Sleeping Beauty Trilogy.....................cheerios
59. Ordinary People by Judith Guest.......Katyblu
60. American Psycho...............................Jeff
69. Slaughterhouse-Five .......................Macheath
83. The Dead Zone.................................Destrox
84. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer........JSD
91. Pillars of the Earth............................TwistedFate
100. Jump Ship to Freedom....................Darkblack
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Old 08-14-2003, 04:58 AM   #59 (permalink)
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43.** The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
-Violence, death of kids
whoops. I missed this one on the first pass through the list. I'd seen #41 and was thinking of this one, so I don't know how I missed it. I definitely read this in 6th grade. Superb book.

Rather than banning the book, the people involved should do something about the situations which lead to this kind of thing.
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Old 08-14-2003, 06:48 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I'll take this one. A friend of mine swears that this is the best book ever. She highly suggested that I read it. That was 5 years ago. I guess its never too late.

4. The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
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Old 08-14-2003, 07:18 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Just finishing 1984, good book, ill take
77. Carrie
never read a Stephen King novel so ill see what all the fuss is about in more ways than one
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:48 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Blubber... fuckin Blubber... no way... I can't believe this. I read this in like 5thn fuckin grade... this is sick..

A light in the attic... I own two of these. My 4 year old has memorized poems out of this!!!!

I'll read this:
35. We All Fall Down by Robert Cormier
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:08 AM   #63 (permalink)
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On the contrary, all they manage to do is create controversy. This actually works against them because it makes people run out and read the book, where before the book may have passed into obscurity.

They have a right to express themselves how they want. It's up to the schools -- who have a commitment to educating and remaining separate from the church -- to not give in to pressure of these Christian crusaders.
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Old 08-14-2003, 10:21 AM   #64 (permalink)
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On the contrary, all they manage to do is create controversy. This actually works against them because it makes people run out and read the book, where before the book may have passed into obscurity.
That is so true, I wouldn't have picked "Annie on my mind" if I hadn't already heard about all the controversy. Hell, thats how I knew what it was about!
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Old 08-14-2003, 03:59 PM   #65 (permalink)
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They aren't being banned anywhere.
Wanna Bet? They most definately are.. Maybe not everywhere and I'm damn glad for that too. But I know for a Fact that Huck Finn is banned and is NOT allowed to be "taught" in highschool.... Which is PRECISELY why my teacher made us read the book. Because it is a great book and shows why the banning is shit. But she could get into trouble for it
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:24 PM   #66 (permalink)
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I've read 35 of them already. I couldn't believe there was a Mem Fox book on there - she's a terrific children's author, and around here we love her Australian stories. So, I'll take "Guess What?"

And since my older son bought Roald Dahl "The Witches" today at the library store I'll take that too.

Just to let you all know where reading stands in our house, both boys were among the top ten readers in our library's summer reading program. We cashed in our reading tokens for a bunch of great books. And a few of the books they had there were on this list. But then again, I do live in "Live Free or Die" territory.
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:50 PM   #67 (permalink)
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No, I have to agree with the Censors on this one:
88. Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford

The waldo books, all in the series are clearly firebrands. I mean it's one thing to have a book that corupts peoples minds with sexual content, but something that encourages perseptual skills like this is bound to lead to the downfall of humanity. I mean really. I am appauled that they not only allow this book to be published, but they also carry it in public librarys.

This sort of text must be banned. NOW!
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:36 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I have read and enjoyed so many of these books that I refuse to acknowledge those who are for banning them.

Why don't they bad the Tolkein books next? Or any book by Hillary Clinton?

God I hate stupid people.
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:52 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I suppose the best way to explain why they all are so ignorant as to what they support is because if they were read the books themselves they too would be instantly corrupted, thereby making themselves the enemy of the preachings they so willingly integrate into themselves.
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:28 AM   #70 (permalink)
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#41 To Kill A Mockingbird is such an incredible book. I'm rereading it now actually. Just because it uses the word Negro in it really doesn't mean it should be banned. It shows how the times then in the south were and I don't think that should be forgotten. We need to remember the past so that we don't repeat it ya know?
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:32 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Ive read prolly 20 of those books....Most of them some of the best pieces of literature I have ever read. That said, perhaps I will pick up catcher in the rye.
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:58 AM   #72 (permalink)
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13. The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger - proud owner. Salinger told all literate nazis to fuck off
41. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee - why would such a beautiful moral book be banned??? proud porud PROUD owner
43. The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton - wow, this book and movie touched me. even 'bad' and 'tough' guys have hearts
52. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley - y a w n i own and read it. boring.
57. The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell - i owned it. stolen copy off the net. beautiful, eh?
83. The Dead Zone by Stephen King - read it. liked it. own it. don't remember it!
84. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain (never read, got bored)

i've always been very pro Free Speach so i intend to read more of these that are on the list. but it'll be awhile.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:21 AM   #73 (permalink)
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I've read quite a few of those, but I'll commit to one more

73. Curses, Hexes and Spells by Daniel Cohen
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:24 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Some of those I can see why some would want them to be banned. Not me though, just to be clear.

But others.... Getting a big Huh? outta me.

I'll read 5 off that list, how bout that?
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:37 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Either I have a very nasty anti-establishmentism streak or those other people have no free thought what so ever. I counted off at least 72 (that i can remember...probably more) books on that list that I have read. AND I enjoyed every one of them.

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Old 08-19-2003, 11:57 AM   #76 (permalink)
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don't u just love living in a free society! can't understand why most of these books have been banned. don't know if these have been banned here in england, should hope not! although i can't see myself readin any of them,. its the principal of not being allowed to choose what i read.
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Old 08-19-2003, 01:36 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I thought book banning was ruled as unconstitutional?...
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Old 08-19-2003, 02:36 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:33 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I dont think any of these are truely being banned. Or at least not in mos librarys and book stores. More than half of these are standard high school reading and classic american novels. Theres no way in hell they are going to ban books that have been being read for over ten years. It doesnt make any sense, could you give some solid proof?
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:16 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I am embarrassed that I have only read 7 of them. Many of those where for school.

I can not tolerate the mindset that leads to the banning of books. That does not mean that schools should have certain books in their library. I can not imagine a high school library without Mark Twains's classics or some of the others on the list. On the other hand, if I was the librarian, I would not keep a copy of Anarchist cookbook for easy reference.

About half of the people in my office believe that the Harry Potter series is about devil worship because that is what there preachers told them to think. Heaven forbid they should actually pick up one of the books and find out for themselves what all the fuss is about. The controversy is what made me read the first one; and now I can not wait for each book to come out. (I wonder what those co-workers would think about the TFP).
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