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sixate 07-28-2003 11:55 AM

Gay High School
 
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'Gay' high school opening in NYC
Facility to have 100 students this fall, will specialize in art, cooking


The first stand-alone public high school for homosexuals in New York City will open this fall with 100 "gay" students.

According to a report in the New York Post, the new Harvey Milk High School currently is undergoing a $3.2 million publicly funded renovation. The homosexuals-only program has operated with just two classrooms for two decades, but now is expanding.

The Hetrick-Martin Institute, a "gay"-rights group, is helping to finance the new school, the report said.

According to the new principal, William Salzman, Harvey Milk High School – named for the slain homosexual politician from San Francisco – will specialize in computer technology, arts and a culinary program.

"This school will be a model for the country and possibly the world," Salzman told the Post. "This is a not a touchy-feely situation. We intend to have 95 percent of our students go on to college. We have a lot of talent coming into the school. We want to steer these kids in the right direction."

Mayor Michael Bloomberg was enthusiastic about the new school.

"Everybody feels that it's a good idea because some of the kids who are gays and lesbians have been constantly harassed and beaten in other schools and this lets them get an education without having to worry," Bloomberg told reporters at his daily briefing today.

New York State Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long blasted the idea of a separate school for homosexual students.

"What next? Maybe we should have schools for chubby kids who get picked on. Maybe all kids who wear glasses should have special schools. It's ridiculous," he said, according to the paper.

Long also decried the use of public funds to renovate the school.

According to the Post, Arthur Larsen graduated from the program last month as valedictorian and is thrilled with the school's expansion.

"I'm now an alumnus of a real school!" he told the paper. "There's going to be more students. In four years, I want to work here."



I guess my only problem with this is that it has a back of the bus kinda mentality. Separation just isn't a good thing in my book.

Charlatan 07-28-2003 12:04 PM

I completely agree with Sixate on this... separation is not the right way to go...

Cynthetiq 07-28-2003 12:05 PM

NYC being the diverse melting pot that it is... we've gotten so far to be diverse and understanding...*sigh*


tenchi069 07-28-2003 12:13 PM

If people would just accept it as being a part of someone ELSE's life and not somone else trying to make their lifestyle a part of my lifestyle then stuff like this won't happen. Let's allows gay, lesbian, and bisexuals to openly be what they are, regardless of age or where. It isn't going to MAKE us, our children, or our neighbors something they don't want to be. The worst thing that could happen is somone learns a little compassion.

spectre 07-28-2003 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I guess my only problem with this is that it has a back of the bus kinda mentality. Separation just isn't a good thing in my book.
I couldn't have said that any better.

Bill O'Rights 07-28-2003 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by tenchi069
If people would just accept it as being a part of someone ELSE's life and not somone else trying to make their lifestyle a part of my lifestyle then stuff like this won't happen.
Bravo Sir. Well said. Very well said

Phaenx 07-28-2003 12:36 PM

They're going to need an all gay business trait/college to go into (anything from cirque de soleil, interior redecorator, host of "blues clues") or else the point of Highschool will be lost, you can't seperate yourself from everyone and expect to ready yourself for the real world kiddos.

seretogis 07-28-2003 12:47 PM

:rolleyes:

Way to reinforce negative stereotypes! Maybe they can install cushioned glory holes in the restrooms too.

YourNeverThere 07-28-2003 12:53 PM

I was having a conversaion about this with a friend of mine the other day, she said that she used to know a friend of her family who didnt like gay people becuase of a gay friend that he knew who got aids and died, and becuase he thought the whole gay community there was bad. I think thats retarted, just becuase your gay doesnt mean that you run rampid and screw everyone, its a stupid sterotype. So i think that this school is stupid as well, why does there sexual preference mean they need a different school?

funbob 07-28-2003 12:57 PM

This doesnt surprise me in the least, NYC is a hotspot for the "New" things.

Regziever 07-28-2003 12:58 PM

Separation, segregation, apartheid same shit different name.. nuthin good has ever come from it.

World's King 07-28-2003 12:59 PM

One word...


"Fame"

WhoaitsZ 07-28-2003 12:59 PM

okay: This is fucking rediculous.

remember the civil rights movement...? i know this isn' the same, but I've always said for people to grow and evolve they must quit doing this shit.

now we have black only places. this gay school. what next?

it pissess me off. this is like saying 'i want equal rights but kiss my ass'.

assholes

Trilidon 07-28-2003 03:34 PM

Freedom of association??

Nothing wrong with seperation if its done correctly imo. Comparing it to apartheid and segregation is looking at it a bit out of context.

YzermanS19 07-28-2003 03:49 PM

Celebrate diversity, just don't point out anyones differences.

JStrider 07-28-2003 04:18 PM

well its not likes its a forced seperation... and i assume gays will still be able to go to the regular public schools... i dont think its a good idea... seperating people by their differences only increases the misunderstandings associated with those differences...

CSflim 07-28-2003 04:25 PM

This is the most idiotic thing that I have heard in a long time!

"What next? Maybe we should have schools for chubby kids who get picked on. Maybe all kids who wear glasses should have special schools. It's ridiculous,"

agreed!

degarg 07-28-2003 04:52 PM

Yeah.. seperation isn't good.. creates problems :(

The_Dude 07-28-2003 05:40 PM

oh great, so every minority group gets to have their own high school?? i completely disagree w/ it.

Trilidon 07-28-2003 05:43 PM

Doesnt really matter =P its there right.

Isn't it?

Glad-I-Ate-Her 07-28-2003 08:09 PM

from csfilms:
"What next? Maybe we should have schools for chubby kids who get picked on. Maybe all kids who wear glasses should have special schools. It's ridiculous,"

This is a terrible idea. I agree with csfilms' point above. Anytime you single out a specific group for what ever reason, its bound to backfire.

Does anyone remember recently when a highschool had a prom for whites only? (I don't remember where it was.) Each group will start requesting special privilieges or they threaten to sue.

I hope this doesn't go through. Imagine underage kids saying that its cool that they want to go here and in the future they regret that they did it. What happens then? Don't parents have a choice in the matter. The parents cannot do anything when their kids become of legal age (18). But before 18 they should and could.

I would have thought that this would have happened in San Francisco before in New York.

Glad

pavel_lishin 07-28-2003 08:10 PM

There's a high school in Dallas that's basically the same thing, I think it's actually been here longer than the NYC one. Surprised the hell out of me when I heard about it... gay high school in the South? Weirder stuff's happened, I guess.

Tandem 07-28-2003 08:13 PM

Will be interesting how they 'qualify" eligable students - and/or police entry.

MSD 07-28-2003 08:31 PM

I see the publicity that this is getting easily becoming a way for religious extremists to target a group that they hate.

Separate but equal has been determined to be not equal.

Jeff 07-28-2003 11:16 PM

We actually have a few around here. We call them drama schools though.

laxative 07-28-2003 11:44 PM

bet they'll have a kick-ass football team.

MikeyChalupa 07-29-2003 02:52 AM

Will the faculty be all-gay and lesbian too? Will an acceptable excuse to miss class be "I just COULDN'T find a thing to wear!"?

And as far as this being an attempt to shield gay students from harassment, now they're conveniently all in one place for those that would do them harm.

And just how many transgendered high school students are there anyway?

-Mikey

wflol 07-29-2003 03:15 AM

um... sure

Loki 07-29-2003 03:44 AM

you know... has it ever occured to anyone that homosexuality may just be a completely natural form of birth control? :)

(just a thought that popped into my head.. i have no real opinion on a strictly homosexual school.)

HaloLauren 07-29-2003 05:34 AM

Whatever the moral issues of separation, which I dont agree with, either, this is wrong because it is publicly funded in part. The government should never condone this. Private funding could fund a private school, but public is just wrong and unconstitutional.

crupdawg 07-29-2003 05:51 AM

this is great, because now i can demand to go to an all straight kids school, im sick of gay kids gaying up things (sarcasm). this is obviously a terrible idea, but what if i was really serious about my previous comment? what if someone really did request a school where only heterosexuals could attend. i mean, it would only be fair, seeing as how there exists a school that only homosexuals could attend. this is the definition of segregation, folks, and i cant believe some people view this as a good idea (not TF'ers, the people who established the school, and the biggest idiot in the world, Mike Bloomberg)

KeyserSoze 07-29-2003 06:13 AM

Well this is total BULLSHIT!!

Fight for years to get accepted and treated as an equal in society and then turn and give it the finger.

Sue the Government,Military,places of employment, boyscouts,and the school systems then go out and open your little special school to SEPERATE yourself from society.

The parents that send their kids to this school are in my opinion are DIPSHITS!!

Personally I am a little tired of hearing about these special interest groups dictating the future of our society as a whole forcing their wants and causes down our throats while spending and wasting our tax dollars for bullshit like this school.

I really don't think a kid in New York city that is gay is going to get harrassed in school, now if he was in Alabama that would be a different story. And who cares if he's harrased..........IT'S SCHOOL.............we all got harrassed at sometime or another in school no matter what color,religon,height,weight,looks,sexual preference,size of penis,hair,gender,clothes,financial situation,bus we rode on, and how smart we were..........IT'S FUCKING SCHOOL.....thats part of growing up and it either makes you stronger as a perosn before you go out in society or you turn into a major fucking whimp that stays living with mommy and daddy the rest of your life because you're to afraid and too stupid to deal with life on lifes terms.

If I had a kid in New York city I would try to enroll my child in that school and if they refused because he was not gay.......I WOULD SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM for discrimination!

Oh, I hope the city remembers to send a notice to the Firefighters and Police officers explaining where their pay raise went to.

HaloLauren 07-29-2003 06:26 AM

You should do that, Keyser!

Separate but equal was already ruled unconstitutional, and I'm sure this place is better than equal. Only 100 kids, jeez.

jeenyus 07-29-2003 07:17 AM

dsf
 
that place is gonna get bombed

teshadoh 07-29-2003 05:52 PM

You know what would suck? The kid that ACTUALLY gets picked on at Gay High School! What a looser....

Fearan 07-29-2003 06:03 PM

Coming up next:

Tired of being picked for wearing 1" thick glasses? Don't want a daily wedgy?

Introducing "SCH00L 4 G33ks!" This Geek-only school doesn't allow jocks, females or anyone else to bother you during your chess-competitions or daily brain teasers!

Ralvek 07-29-2003 07:29 PM

I find it interesting that NYC's conservative mayor supports the idea...then again he'd probably support separate schools for blacks, latinos and other minorities...

ace81385 07-29-2003 08:55 PM

Worst Idea ever..... Why is this being funded by the publics money wtf..... Look i dont care if ur gay but u dont need a gay school.? Or if u want one spend ur own damn money not mine!!!

niccoli 07-29-2003 09:28 PM

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't this just a different form of segragation? And if they had sch00l 4 g33ks the world would have alot more braniacs than it does now...but that's for another topic!

SiphonX 07-29-2003 09:46 PM

didn't we end segregation in the 1960's? while there is nobody forcing the kids to go to the gay school, non-homosexual children aren't allowed. nevertheless, there are schools for all people across the U.S. Catholic schools, Jewish schools, black schools, Christian schools, and now gay schools! I just wonder what's next. Oh, btw, funny comment seretogis, cushioned glory holes, lol, that's grand.

MacGnG 07-29-2003 09:59 PM

hey if they wanna goto that school they can but i'm sure they are still gonna have problems like every other school.

"Lets point and laugh at the straight kid!"
.... you get the point.

BoCo 07-29-2003 10:06 PM

Imagine if white students decided they wanted to go to a whites-only, public-funded school....

This is absolute hypocracy for the degenerates on the left and should not have ever been done.

laxative 07-29-2003 10:26 PM

I can't believe I agree with the drug-free jesus freak.

thedrake 07-30-2003 08:52 AM

okay, i don't mind gay people or even a gay person marrying another gay person, but a gay highschool? That is ridiculous, how did the city council pass this experiment to separate kids that are gay from kids that aren't. And yes at 14-17 your still a kid.

sixate 07-30-2003 02:45 PM

Here's what some people wrote in after reading this article. Some I agree with and some I don't.

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Cool! Does this mean we can now feel free to separate the students according to "sexual orientation"?

Can we now have all-straight schools funded by the taxpayers so that our straight children won't have to be exposed to the "gay" students flaunting their "lifestyle choices"?

B. Faler

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I think that it is more than appropriate to quarantine "gay" students in schools exclusively for them. Preventing contamination of the heterosexual masses by "gays" is an admirable political and social agenda.

It is also appropriate to adhere to the religious admonition regarding "lead us not into temptation," which means to avoid those persons and places who might tempt us into sin, into abandoning the path of righteousness.

Any suggestion that homosexuality (a moral sin) is normal human sexual expression degrades moral standards. It is not – and has never been – the goal for free people in free countries to become the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st century.

Max Effort

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Doesn't this also go contrary to Justice O'Connor's thinking that the schools need diversity?

Doug Pickering

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It seems that liberals are the ones "turning back the clock" on civil rights with the announcement that New York City is opening a full-fledged high school for "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students" – the first of its kind in the nation, and probably not the last.

I thought liberals opposed "separate but equal," but here we have them advocating a school for teen-agers based on their sexual orientation at an age when they shouldn't be having any sex of any kind.

Daniel John Sobieski

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Although I am against "gay segregation" or any type of "segregation," this school may in fact provide an invaluable opportunity to test my social-science theory regarding higher levels of intelligence found in the "gay" community – I can't wait to see what the average SAT scores are for this high school.

It may end up being one of the most desirable schools in New York, such that heterosexuals may end up suing in order to be admitted on the grounds that to not let them into this school is "anti-straight" discrimination.

Jon Rowe

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So, the New York City public school system is opening a "gay-only" high school, and the liberals (including the masquerading mayor) think it's a grand idea whose time is long overdue. Can you imagine the uproar of liberal indignation if a public school system tried to open a "straight-only" school? Chalk it up as yet one more example of bald-faced liberal hypocrisy, I guess.

Greg Orman

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Welcome to the United States of Depravity! "Gay" is a word that means happy – not "I'm a sex pervert." There is a reason they chose to usurp this word – it gives the false cover that they are normal, happy, content. Hogwash to the extreme ... This moral cancer is eating the soul of America alive.

Audrey Case


angela146 07-30-2003 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by teshadoh
You know what would suck? The kid that ACTUALLY gets picked on at Gay High School! What a looser....
Probably because he/she isn't gay enough...

What about bi-sexual highschoolers? Can they attend the gay highschool?

If the school has both gays and lesbians, it might be a fun place to be bisexual...

If bi's are not allowed, how do you enforce it? "...I'm sorry, Jim, we're going to have to expell you. We found pictures of you with... a girl!!!"

Drider_it 07-31-2003 08:47 AM

actually i dont really see how they could get this passed.. Civil rights are for races.. this is a life style.. they are gonna spend 3mil in a school for a lifestyle.. a public school? give me a fukin break..

They should have taken that money and given it to kids that need help getting through college.. not a bunch of whine asses that cry out due to injustice.. You dont see the nerds that get beat up cry out for a school.. nor do you see the stupid asking for a eaiser school.

They should do what most people do.. keep their lifestyles to themselves..

the question I must ask is this..

Even if they are straight.. wtf would they care about being "sexual active" or what not.. you should only be in school to learn to make a life for yourself.. and plan for the future.. after that is down should you then try for a relationship.

There is no other excuse for this..

you try telling me that love at frist sight bullcrap.. ill laugh in your face and tell you there is no such thing..

Ill will however tell you I do believe in Lust at first sight.

All I see is yet another group of bleeding heart liberials crying out milking the gov't outta money needed for other things. Just to make several people happy.

Damn gotta love the american dream.

Rav 07-31-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by CSflim

"What next? Maybe we should have schools for chubby kids who get picked on. Maybe all kids who wear glasses should have special schools. It's ridiculous,"

I agree 100%...Go all out and make an individual school for every person with a particular mindset, or don't do it at all.

Regziever 08-06-2003 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Trilidon
Freedom of association??

Nothing wrong with seperation if its done correctly imo. Comparing it to apartheid and segregation is looking at it a bit out of context.

In my eyes they are all the same bull*. gay people is todays black people, some hate them and others fear them simply because they don't understand them. In' my not so humble opinion that is the most ignorant position anyone can take.

To separate gay students from hetrosexual students is simply a clear statement from the goverment that gay people is not equal to hetrosexual people.

That is bound to create problems both for the goverment and for the students of the school. Nothing good comes from ignorance and intollerance.

Hanxter 08-06-2003 08:28 AM

is it just me or does anyone else think there's gonna be a problem choosing the home coming queen?

izzzzy 08-06-2003 04:21 PM

what about playing grabass in the hallways? theatrical productions should be interesting. when tom brokaw interviewed art buchwald for his book the greatest generation he asked him did you ever experience anti semitism in the marines?buchwald replied 'at first i thought so but then i realised that people werent picking on me ecause i was a jew , they were picking on me because i was an asshole. the point is the more flambouyant andexhibititionist a person is ,they reap what they sow.

remiel 08-06-2003 04:26 PM

Thing is, people are making statements about gay kids being divided from straight kids and so forth. Bear in mind that this is a school that only has room for 140 people. Also bear in mind that this isn't a new thing. The Harvey Milk School has been around since 1984, it's just that this is the first time it gets public funding.

I think it's a bad idea for several reasons, but if someone really feels they can't go to a reular school because they are tormented for their sexuality, it could be a valid choice. That's my 2 cents anyway

angela146 08-06-2003 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by remiel
The Harvey Milk School has been around since 1984...
So, how does it work?

remiel 08-07-2003 09:58 AM

the school? It used to be funded entirely by the Hetrick-Martin Instritute (HMI). Now it also receives some funding from the New York Board of Education.

That's all I know

BoCo 08-07-2003 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Hanxter
is it just me or does anyone else think there's gonna be a problem choosing the home coming queen?
The losers will get into the gayest cat fight ever!

alkaloid 08-07-2003 12:15 PM

How about schools where only the smart kids are allowed in? Oh we have that already. Then how about schools where only the rich kids are allowed? We have that too.

remiel 08-07-2003 12:43 PM

we also have schools where gay kids specifically aren't allowed. Namely military schools.

noblejr 08-07-2003 01:57 PM

I have no problem w/ PRIVATE schools doing whatever the hell they want. BUt a gay PUBLIC school? No way!

jeenyus_one 09-06-2003 08:07 AM

yuck. That school is sooo GAY lol

oldtimer 09-06-2003 11:12 AM

Forget the idea of free will for a moment. Because being gay has nothing to do with free will. NATURALLY, man is <b>NOT</b> attracted to the <b>SAME</b> sex ever! This has been proven by animals. Have you ever seen a gay cat? Have you ever seen a gay dog? Maybe in cases where they can't differentiate between the two. But this is an idea the <i>white man</i> has placed in the minds of people. It is not right to be gay. It is not right to be lesbian. Though I strongly believe in this, this does not mean I hate these people or automatically deem them not human. Because each person has a different attitiude, personality, thoughts, feelings etc. to make them who they are in their own way regardless of sexual preference. In plain terms, being gay is unnatural.

There are still others though who will pursue this and say: What if I don't prefer women, I hate them. They're mean & nasty....yadah yadah. Believe it there are men who feel this way <b>AND</b> aren't even gay. I say to you take up a life of <b>CELBACY</b>. As far as making a high school for gays?! That's crazy! Children are not at the sound age to make that distinction that they are gay and willing to be that way for the rest of their lives. I can see 17 or 18 year old's deciding this but not freshmen or sophmores. They haven't even lived long enough to lose their virginity. This also bad as in terms of being exposed to this concept at too early an age. What the fuck is next? A gay middle school? A gay <b>ELEMENTARY</b> school? A gay <b>PRESCHOOL</b>?!?!

In all honesty, I would like to meet a gay man who was not feminish. Why is that? To be a gay man you must possess feminish qualities? That is absurd. Then are supposed to have "queer" voices, act <i>womenly</i>, giddy, and once again use that obsence accent whenever they talk?? "Ohhhh, be nice!" More and more this sounds like a woman in a man's body! Though, it is because of this information of being self-aware, "male" and "female", that they adopt this mentality. Animals do not know they are "male" nor do they know they are "female" they just know they are alive.

macmanmike6100 09-06-2003 11:17 AM

i agree with Halo here. it's wrong to take public funds to fund a private school (it <b>is</b> private...this is segregation all over again)

I agree with politician Long, too: do they want to make schools for other groups of students that, stereotypically, get picked on??

glophead 09-06-2003 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by oldtimer
Forget the idea of free will for a moment. Because being gay has nothing to do with free will. NATURALLY, man is <b>NOT</b> attracted to the <b>SAME</b> sex ever! This has been proven by animals. Have you ever seen a gay cat? Have you ever seen a gay dog? Maybe in cases where they can't differentiate between the two. But this is an idea the <i>white man</i> has placed in the minds of people. It is not right to be gay. It is not right to be lesbian. Though I strongly believe in this, this does not mean I hate these people or automatically deem them not human. Because each person has a different attitiude, personality, thoughts, feelings etc. to make them who they are in their own way regardless of sexual preference. In plain terms, being gay is unnatural.

I would have to agree with this. If homosexuality were natural, aka. genetic, the gene that controls it would never get passed on, thusly making it go out of the population.

On the topic of the school, this to me is just proof that the government us focusing too much on accomidation, and not letting enough assimilation take place.

rosie21 09-06-2003 01:58 PM

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fuzzix 09-06-2003 10:48 PM

I agree that seperation will not really be of benifit to anyone in the long run.

quantumburnz 09-06-2003 10:56 PM

Ya, I don't think separation is a good idea... Sure they get picked on, it should happen, but hopefully it'll slowly get better. Seperating them just doesn't sound like it will fix the problem though.


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