Do i have to pay for something i didn't agree to buy? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

anthony5 · 07-26-2011, 12:44 PM

hey. so a couple of days ago some company call me telling me i was being 1 of the 25 people to qualified to get a discount on some program to learn english. I told them that i didnt want nothing. so somehow they keep talking and they got me to tell them 3 of my friends phone number and there name and also my street address. they also told me that the government was gonna pay part of the price of that program. i told them i didn't have the money to pay the program.. the cost of the program i think it is of $2,000 but since the "goverment" was gonna pay part of the money i just had to pay $600 ($100 every month). So i called the other day to tell them again that i didn't want that program that i didn't need it. so yesterday they call me telling me that i was approve and the paper was send automatically and that i had to pay $199 by tomorrow! and if i don't pay the $199 they are going to start a legally process against me and my 3 friends. what can i do? please some help me? thanksss

cj2112 · 07-26-2011, 12:47 PM

Call the attorney general's office for your state. Get off the internet and do it now.

KirStang · 07-26-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

Call the attorney general's office for your state. Get off the internet and do it now.

This. Most states have an office of consumer protection, or some division thereof. Get in touch with them.

The_Jazz · 07-26-2011, 01:53 PM

Until they can produce something proving you agreed to pay for this - which doesn't exists - you not only don't have to pay, but you get to keep whatever product they send you.

According to the Federal Trade Commission:

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Unordered Merchandise

Whether or not the Rule is involved, in any approval or other sale you must obtain the customer's prior express agreement to receive the merchandise. Otherwise the merchandise may be treated as unordered merchandise. It is unlawful to:

1. Send any merchandise by any means without the express request of the recipient (unless the merchandise is clearly identified as a gift, free sample, or the like); or,

2. Try to obtain payment for or the return of the unordered merchandise.

Merchants who ship unordered merchandise with knowledge that it is unlawful to do so can be subject to civil penalties of up to $11,000 per violation. Moreover, customers who receive unordered merchandise are legally entitled to treat the merchandise as a gift. Using the U.S. mails to ship unordered merchandise also violates the Postal laws.

Business Guide to the Mail and Telephone Order Merchandise Rule | BCP Business Center

Good luck!

Lindy · 07-26-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by anthony5

hey. so a couple of days ago some company call me telling me i was being 1 of the 25 people to qualified to get a discount on some program to learn english. I told them that i didnt want nothing.

AND THE CONVERSATION SHOULD HAVE ENDED THERE!!!

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Originally Posted by anthony5

so somehow they keep talking and they got me to tell them 3 of my friends phone number and there name and also my street address....

How did they get you to disclose that information? Did they reach through the phone and twist your arm??
Seriously. Does you phone not have an 'OFF' or 'END' button??

Why talk to these kinds of people? Why talk to phone solicitors at all?? Why be a willing victim?? Sheeeeesh!

Lindy

MSD · 07-26-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz

Until they can produce something proving you agreed to pay for this - which doesn't exists - you not only don't have to pay, but you get to keep whatever product they send you.

This is correct and also why I have two expensive coffee pots.

dlish · 07-26-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MSD

This is correct and also why I have two expensive coffee pots.

MSD, youve been talking about these two pots for years but i dont believe ive seen them yet....

Free is always good, but pictures are always better

Good luck anthony, i think you're getting some good advice here.

Cynthetiq · 07-26-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MSD

This is correct and also why I have two expensive coffee pots.

I know right isn't it great when they send you something that you didn't ask for or order?

anthony5 · 07-26-2011, 09:45 PM

Thanks guys this is going to help me alot. they call me today saying that i have to send the $199 to receive the program and they said that they cannot cancel it because it was approve automatically by the government.

dlish · 07-26-2011, 10:08 PM

Tell them that you're talking to your lawyer and the attorney generals office and you wont be making any payment until you get advice from the AG office.

Government departments that ive dealt with takes weeks if not months to get their shit together. I doubt that they'd get this rolling in 2-3 days. This has scam written all over it.

The_Jazz · 07-27-2011, 11:31 AM

Don't send them any money. Ask them to prove that you agreed to accept their offer. They can't, therefore there's no contract. That means you get to keep whatever it is you're going to send them if you want.

eribrav · 07-27-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anthony5

somehow they keep talking and they got me to tell them 3 of my friends phone number and there name and also my street address.

Do not do this or you won't have any more friends.

MSD · 07-27-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish

MSD, youve been talking about these two pots for years but i dont believe ive seen them yet....

Free is always good, but pictures are always better

Yama STYLISH CERAMIC BASE SYPHON VACUUM POT - Northwest Glass Designs
http://www.northwestglass.com/images/newimage.jpg

dlish · 07-27-2011, 07:58 PM

thats a pretty nifty teapot(s) MSD, but i was hoping you were going to hold them up for us

07-26-2011, 12:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
anthony5 Upright	Do i have to pay for something i didn't agree to buy? hey. so a couple of days ago some company call me telling me i was being 1 of the 25 people to qualified to get a discount on some program to learn english. I told them that i didnt want nothing. so somehow they keep talking and they got me to tell them 3 of my friends phone number and there name and also my street address. they also told me that the government was gonna pay part of the price of that program. i told them i didn't have the money to pay the program.. the cost of the program i think it is of $2,000 but since the "goverment" was gonna pay part of the money i just had to pay $600 ($100 every month). So i called the other day to tell them again that i didn't want that program that i didn't need it. so yesterday they call me telling me that i was approve and the paper was send automatically and that i had to pay $199 by tomorrow! and if i don't pay the $199 they are going to start a legally process against me and my 3 friends. what can i do? please some help me? thanksss

07-26-2011, 10:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	Tell them that you're talking to your lawyer and the attorney generals office and you wont be making any payment until you get advice from the AG office. Government departments that ive dealt with takes weeks if not months to get their shit together. I doubt that they'd get this rolling in 2-3 days. This has scam written all over it. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

07-27-2011, 11:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	Don't send them any money. Ask them to prove that you agreed to accept their offer. They can't, therefore there's no contract. That means you get to keep whatever it is you're going to send them if you want. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

07-27-2011, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	thats a pretty nifty teapot(s) MSD, but i was hoping you were going to hold them up for us __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

07-26-2011, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	Call the attorney general's office for your state. Get off the internet and do it now.

07-26-2011, 09:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
anthony5 Upright	Thanks guys this is going to help me alot. they call me today saying that i have to send the $199 to receive the program and they said that they cannot cancel it because it was approve automatically by the government.