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Old 04-04-2011, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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why has there never been a female epic A-list legend guitarist?

went to sleep thinking about this last night. there's tons of singers. a few bassists (sonic youth, smashing pumpkins come to mind.) but i can't think of any females known for their rock guitar.

why do you think this is?
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lita Ford and Joan Jett don't stand out as someone with great rock guitar?
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Or Bonnie Raitt?

I think a better question might be why haven't there been any great male rock guitarists lately? The only really good guitar players I've heard in the past 10 years or so are John Mayer and Brad Paisley.
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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They are good guitarists but they don't stand out as great guitarists. The most obvious reason is that it is a male-dominated field. Female rock musicians are rare and if they exist at all are usually the vocalist. You can probably count the number of significant female rock guitarists on your hands and it's doubtful that any of them are known as virtuosos.
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for your bassist list, check out the grandma of them all.

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Old 04-04-2011, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think a better question might be why haven't there been any great male rock guitarists lately? The only really good guitar players I've heard in the past 10 years or so are John Mayer and Brad Paisley.
Joe Bonamassa?

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They are good guitarists but they don't stand out as great guitarists. The most obvious reason is that it is a male-dominated field. Female rock musicians are rare and if they exist at all are usually the vocalist. You can probably count the number of significant female rock guitarists on your hands and it's doubtful that any of them are known as virtuosos.
Orianthi would seen to have the talent on guitar. Her insistence on taking a pop track and doing her own vocals took her off my radar.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Lita Ford and Joan Jett don't stand out as someone with great rock guitar?
i thought of them right away along with the bangles and the gogo's, but i couldn't rationally put them in the same tier as hendrix, page, radiohead, tool, jane's addiction, ratm, etc.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reminder. I listened to this a lot a few whiles back.



I missed the "rock" part. 'scuse me

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Or Bonnie Raitt?
Came in here to say this!

I saw female guitarist in the thread title and she is the first one I thought of.

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COME ON!!!
Nancy Wilson could rival Eric Clapton for God status...
And her sister Ann's vocals could make Robert Plant weep.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Besides for the ones named, there's...

The Great Kat!
Joni Mitchell
Ani DiFranco
Courtney Love
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Sean Yseult
Cordell Jackson
Jennifer Batten

And those are just off the top of my head... Women guitarists may not be as well known, but they're out there!
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Okay, this question is born out of complete ignorance. Is it more difficult for a female to truly excel at rock guitar due to some sort of physical difference? Women's hands are typically smaller than men. That would dictate guitar size, right? Perhaps that somehow limits early direction with guitar practice, hence less emphasis on rock? I don't know crap about all of this, so I'm just asking. I know I have small hands and when I played I seemed limited in what I could do.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i think people are confusing A-List with fame.. few of those mentioned female guitarists listed are A-List, which refers to the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Les Claypool, John Entwisle, etc.

ALTHOUGH.. I think females generally hold the crown for best overall vocalists. I mean, take any female who doesn't chain smoke, have her hum a bit over the track, and BAM, you've got a single. even females who can't sing worth a damn are pretty good at it (Karen O, I'm looking at you).
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Not exactly A-List but these girls fucking rock!
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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ALTHOUGH.. I think females generally hold the crown for best overall vocalists. I mean, take any female who doesn't chain smoke, have her hum a bit over the track, and BAM, you've got a single. even females who can't sing worth a damn are pretty good at it (Karen O, I'm looking at you).
and this relates to female guitarists in what way?

stay on topic, please...
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Okay, this question is born out of complete ignorance. Is it more difficult for a female to truly excel at rock guitar due to some sort of physical difference? Women's hands are typically smaller than men. That would dictate guitar size, right? Perhaps that somehow limits early direction with guitar practice, hence less emphasis on rock? I don't know crap about all of this, so I'm just asking. I know I have small hands and when I played I seemed limited in what I could do.
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The Deal twins of The Breeders:

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Old 04-04-2011, 06:16 PM   #18 (permalink)
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well, I wanted to also say that when was the last time you heard some radical guitar shredding on the radio lately? It just isn't there anymore...

I decided to see if there was anyone who seemed worthy of being an awesome female guitarist and these are the videos I found watch them in the order I've listed, because it gets more impressive from top to bottom.





The girl is impressive. She was Michael Jackson's guitarist...so it's not lack of publicity and pop...

http://www.orianthi.com/
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i think people are confusing A-List with fame.. few of those mentioned female guitarists listed are A-List, which refers to the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Les Claypool, John Entwisle, etc.

ALTHOUGH.. I think females generally hold the crown for best overall vocalists. I mean, take any female who doesn't chain smoke, have her hum a bit over the track, and BAM, you've got a single. even females who can't sing worth a damn are pretty good at it (Karen O, I'm looking at you).
You left out Rick Wakeman and John Bonham.

After all, there's a bass player on your list of guitar heroes...

Just sayin'
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:11 AM   #20 (permalink)
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ok maybe not a guitarist but whatever she is, damn. just damn.
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i loved the breeders but i'd have to say they're better known for kim's bass in the pixies. i thought of that michael jackson guitarist as well (dirty diana), but being a hired gun for an A-lister doesn't make you one i'd think.

i just thought it an anomaly because there's such a mixed ratio of female to male artists in rock and pop music the last 20 years but there seems to be a dearth of guitar and for that matter drums in there. we're due for a first i'd say.
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12 Greatest Female Electric Guitarists

In celebration of It Might Get Loud, a riff on some of our favorite women to pick up an ax


“You can caress [a guitar] like a woman,” says Jimmy Page in the opening of It Might Get Loud, a new documentary by Davis Guggenheim that invites electric-guitar virtuosos Page, U2’s The Edge, and Jack White to meet on an L.A. soundstage, tell their guitar stories, and do a little impromptu jamming. In theaters now, it’s the kind of gripping music doc that could inspire girls and boys everywhere to ditch Guitar Hero for a real Stratocaster. And yet, as good as it is, we couldn’t help but think, Why no female guitarist in the bunch? Could be that since the electric guitar’s popularity blossomed in the mid-twentieth century, collective wisdom has suggested that great female guitarists simply don’t exist. Take Rolling Stone’s 2003 list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. Only two women, Joni Mitchell and Joan Jett, were honored. In a Washington Post article written in response to Rolling Stone’s list, the writer suggests that as interest in electric guitar was revving up in the ’60s, women weren’t encouraged to step out of their ladylike gender roles, leaving them with an impossible game of catch-up to Jimi Hendrix and Page. Maybe. But Kelley Deal, lead guitarist of the Breeders, doesn’t buy it. “I think we do exist,” she says, “but in a different capacity. Guys really like to hear themselves talk. Women guitarists seem more song-oriented. What they choose to play contributes to making the song better, not just riffing all over it. It’s a deeper relationship.” And it’s a relationship that could helm its own documentary (cough, cough, Mr. Guggenheim). In the meantime, ELLE presents 12 of the greatest female electric guitar players to ever pick up the instrument.

Joan Jett





A no-nonsense player who in only a few strums can get an entire barroom howling her 1982 hit, “I Love Rock ’n’ Roll.” That kind of power, often amplified by painted-on leather pants, sets the bar high for Twilight’s Kristen Stewart, who’s playing Jett in an upcoming Runaways biopic.

Lita Ford





After jamming with Jett as lead guitarist in the Runaways, Lita Ford took her pop-metal shedder sound solo and hired fellow rocker chick Sharon Osbourne as her manager. In 1988, she released Lita, a sexy riff-filled album that not only pleased rockers with its head-banging tunes but also got mainstreamers in the pit, especially with “Close My Eyes Forever,” her duet with the prince of darkness Ozzy Osbourne.

Nancy Wilson





Only a few seconds into the riff of Heart’s “Barracuda” and you know that only Nancy Wilson could knock you over with solos that beg to be air-guitared. Which makes us even more excited to hear that Nancy and sister Ann are preparing a new album slated for next summer.

Jennifer Batten





Jennifer Batten’s shredding is just as outrageous as her platinum-spiked locks, both of which must have caught the attention of Michael Jackson, who called on her to play Eddie Van Halen’s “Beat It” guitar solo on his Bad, Dangerous, and HIStory tours. Must-watch video here.

Donita Sparks





Donita Sparks, the woman behind ’80s girl group L7’s guitar-heavy riffs, gave birth to boozy garage grunge (download “Pretend We’re Dead,” or play your own version on Rock Band 2), as well as her own group, Donita Sparks + the Stellar Moments, whose 2008 Transmiticate proves she hasn’t lost her hard-rock edge.

Kelley Deal





Kelley Deal didn’t pick up the guitar until she was 30, but that’s the reason her disheveled playing for the Breeders (and later the Kelley Deal 6000) moves us. It’s untrained, uncalculated, and completely unreal.

Carrie Brownstein





Sleater-Kinney could have fallen into obscurity like some of their ’90s indie-rock classmates (what ever happened to Joan Osborne?) but not with Carrie Brownstein’s riotous wailing, especially Page-like in the group’s 2002 record, One Beat. And lately, she’s taken to blogging for NPR. Photo: Courtesy of Retna

Poison Ivy





The Cramps were playing envelope-pushing ’80s psychobilly before it became mainstream in the ’90s and influenced bands like the Black Lips, the Jesus and Mary Chain, and My Bloody Valentine. With Poison Ivy on the ax (and late husband Lux Interior on vocals), her garage-punk attitude, though totally hard-core, seemed to come from a place of love. Creepy, fetish-filled love.

Ruyter Suys





When her band Nashville Pussy plays live, lead guitarist Ruyter Suys whips her fiery red mane back and forth and lies on the stage floor (sometimes in only her underwear), all while creating the high-pitch electric screams that frame their “good old-fashioned, humping-in-the-back-seat-of-a-car rock ’n’ roll,” as Suys describes it to Rolling Stone. Photo: Courtesy of Retna

The Great Kat





Of all the shredders on our list, Juilliard-trained violinist the Great Kat (aka Katherine Thomas) is the most mind-bogglingly fast. Watch her fingers do the talking in the Beethoven Mush video here. (Or just imagine the composer’s electrical symphony on amphetamines.)

Marnie Stern





Marnie Stern’s twitchy rhythms and face-melting licks take what we love about Eddie Van Halen’s fast-paced playing and paints it with a rock-girl feel. On her second record, This Is It… (2008), Stern is a virtuosic badass.

Orianthi





At 24, Australian newcomer Orianthi’s melodic wailing has already been endorsed by Carlos Santana (“If I was going to pass the baton to someone, she would be my first choice,” he told the Aussie Today show) and Michael Jackson handpicked her for what would have been his comeback tour.
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