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Originally Posted by mixedmedia (Post 2851878)

I don't understand why it's so difficult to separate the culpability of the suspect from the legitimate questions about what this operation accomplished.

Yes.

Also, one of the things that's bothered me about this whole situation is the age of the subject. This is kind of related to filtherton's reference to emotionally unstable teenagers. We know from studies of the frontal lobe that it is not fully developed until the mid-20s--and the frontal lobe controls executive functioning, decision-making, and the weighing of consequences, among other things. Who's to say that this kid would have carried out these actions had the FBI not gotten involved? Perhaps, over time, his brain would have developed further and he would have realized the consequences for the actions he was thinking of.

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Originally Posted by Hotmnkyluv (Post 2851876)

I see and fully understand the theory of entrapment but I still call bullshit.

If I give you 5000 dollars, a target, a gun, bullets, a clear shooting lane, a getaway car, and a map out of town, it's still your decision to pull the trigger...

and had you not given me those items, I might never have attempted it to begin with. thus, entrapment.

Could this type of entrapment, also be considered a form of incitement?

I'm tending towards believing so. Hard tellin' not knowin' how the feds actually operated
in this instance. I dunno.

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Originally Posted by dogzilla (Post 2851788)

I didn't scroll back far enough, just saw your latest post. Anyway, I have no problem with the FBI leading this guy down the path to jail, regardless what this guy's problem was. Maybe he would have really blown something up later if he had a second chance.

Or maybe he could have figured his shit out and become the poster boy for reformed potential terrorists. Right now this scenario is just as plausible as yours.

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I don't think it's law enforcement's responsibility to provide counseling or whatever to every wannabe bad guy they find.

I don't think it is either, in fact, nobody here has said anything about law enforcement providing counseling. I think that providing effective counseling is very likely pretty high on the very long list of things that law enforcement organizations are bad at.

What I said was that it would likely have been cheaper and at least as effective (with respect to making us safer from terrorism) if some sort of non-arresty intervention had occurred.