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Shauk 05-26-2010 06:40 AM

For those concerned about Facebook privacy
 
ReclaimPrivacy.org | Facebook Privacy Scanner

pretty easy scan to see if you've got any vulnerabilities or not.

Don't blame facebook, blame yourself for not using the tools they've given you.

Baraka_Guru 05-26-2010 07:02 AM

Hey, a good find! Thanks.

I just performed a lockdown on my Facebook profile. It was more exposed than I thought it was.

Everyone should check this out.

warrrreagl 05-26-2010 07:06 AM

My browser warns me this link to check the safety of my privacy might not be safe.

Redlemon 05-26-2010 07:06 AM

Of course, everything will change today, there's a whole new "simpler" and "better"* privacy model being released on Facebook today. However, I'm sure that the ReclaimPrivacy folks will adjust their scanner accordingly.

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* results may vary

LordEden 05-26-2010 07:08 AM

Thanks for the link man, I thought I had got all the privacy settings, but apparently missed the HUGE one with instant personalization.

I don't use facebook anyway, waste of internet space IMHO.

Baraka_Guru 05-26-2010 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon (Post 2792431)
Of course, everything will change today, there's a whole new "simpler" and "better"* privacy model being released on Facebook today. However, I'm sure that the ReclaimPrivacy folks will adjust their scanner accordingly.

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* results may vary

Oh, man. I guess we'll have to see.

I'm hoping Facebook with "transfer/transpose/translate" old settings into new setting equivalents.

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2792432)
Thanks for the link man, I thought I had got all the privacy settings, but apparently missed the HUGE one with instant personalization.

Yeah, I missed that too. Is it a newer option?

Quote:

I don't use facebook anyway, waste of internet space IMHO.
For some of us, Facebook is a part of jorbs.

snowy 05-26-2010 07:12 AM

Someone here linked this on a FB group a couple weeks ago and I've been using it every couple of days to ensure my profile is suitably locked down. However, since they changed the way interests/music/whatever works with the linky things, I've removed a lot of my information.

And yeah, if I didn't have a Facebook, the people I work with would think I was weird.

LordEden 05-26-2010 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2792433)
Yeah, I missed that too. Is it a newer option?

That's the BIG one that got them in hot water, the one where if you "like" something on Pandora it shows up on your facebook wall. I thought I had it turned off cause well, I like Pandora but not fucking facebook. I'm glad I had it checked again.

Baraka_Guru 05-26-2010 07:49 AM

Shit, don't mention Pandora. I'm still heartbroken about that.

Cynthetiq 05-26-2010 10:11 AM

I've not read about their new simpler features yet. But here's the crux for me, the people that got your data? They got it already. So all they have to do is do this merry go round every year and the other companies get what they want anyways.

since someone mentioned pandora: FYI, Pandora Makes Your Music Public | Epicenter| Wired.com

Lasereth 05-26-2010 10:33 AM

The other day I logged into Youtube and it asked me if I wanted to be prompted when favoriting or rating a video to post the vid on my FB page. I said sure, I'd like to be prompted, that could be neat. So I go on my merry way, then the next day I find 10 videos posted to my FB page that I was never prompted for. What it actually meant: POST EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I LIKE OR FAVORITE ON FB ALSO

Rage.

Baraka_Guru 05-26-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2792498)
Rage.

...and embarrassment?

warrrreagl 05-26-2010 10:46 AM

Last year, Grancey and I bought fishing licenses from our local Academy Sports store. We thought it would be a cool thing to do. In order to make the purchase at Customer Service, I had to give them my driver's license, and the girl took it and disappeared behind a computer screen for a few minutes. I didn't have to fill out anything, and the only information that APPEARS on my driver's license is my DL number, my DOB, the DL expiration date, my name and address, and my sex/height/weight/eyes/hair stuff.

She returned with a one-page printout containing my new fishing license and several lines of other identifying information that is NOT on my driver's license. This damn page listed my cell phone number and the last college degree I received. Where the fuck did they get that? What database do they tap into in order to issue a freakin' fishing license?

But here's the real kicker - ever since then, my Facebook page has been oddly suggesting that I join various fishing pages and organizations.

I guess my point is that no matter what you do, they've already got you.

Plan9 05-26-2010 10:49 AM

*dons tinfoil hat, makes necessary appearance in thread, defeats self by being on other employment-related sites*

Redlemon 05-26-2010 11:02 AM

OK, here's the meat of it:
Quote:

First, we've built one simple control to set who can see the content you post. In a couple of clicks, you can set the content you've posted to be open to everyone, friends of your friends or just your friends.

This control will also apply to settings in new products we launch going forward. So if you decide to share your content with friends only, then we will set future settings to friends only as well. This means you won't have to worry about new settings in the future.

This single control makes it easier to set who can see all your content at once, but you can still use all of the same granular controls we've offered if you'd like.

Second, we've reduced the amount of basic information that must be visible to everyone and we are removing the connections privacy model. Now we'll be giving you the ability to control who can see your friends and pages. These fields will no longer have to be public.

The controls for this basic information can be found at the top of the privacy page in Basic Directory Information. We recommend that you make these settings open to everyone. Otherwise, people you know may not be able to find you and that will make the site less useful for you.

Third, we've made it simple to control whether applications and websites can access any of your information. Many of you enjoy using applications or playing games, but for those of you who don't we've added an easy way to turn off Platform completely. This will make sure that none of your information is shared with applications or websites.

If you simply want to turn off instant personalization, we've also made that easier. Already, partner sites can only see things you've made visible to everyone. But if you want to prevent them from even seeing that, you can now easily turn off instant personalization completely.

Finally and perhaps most importantly, I am pleased to say that with these changes the overhaul of Facebook's privacy model is complete. If you find these changes helpful, then we plan to keep this privacy framework for a long time. That means you won't need to worry about changes. (Believe me, we're probably happier about this than you are.)

Of course we'll continue responding to your feedback and making things simpler. But after our recent changes we're now done migrating away from the old network-based privacy model. Our new model will help the Facebook community grow to millions of more people around the world.

On a personal note, I just turned 26 years old a few days ago. I started Facebook when I was 19 and it's amazing to look back at how it has evolved. There have been a lot of changes over the years as we've continued to innovate, and I appreciate that you have all stuck with us. Each time we make a change we try to learn from past lessons, and each time we make new mistakes too. We are far from perfect, but we always try our hardest to build the best service for you and for the world. So I just want to say thanks.

We'll be rolling out these changes to all of you over the next few weeks. You can always check out the new privacy page, which explains how the settings will work. When you get the new controls, please play around and find the settings that feel best for you. If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We're listening.
Sounds positive. Easier to cut off stuff you don't want, less mandatory full-public access, full granularity if you wish it. Probably still defaults you to fly-wide-open, but we'll see.

ring 05-26-2010 11:05 AM

Hey Niner, you are too young to remember tinfoil.

It's aluminum. My father could never pronounce that word.

After two shots of ethanol, I can't either.

Yeah, let's stick to tinfoil.

Plan9 05-26-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ring (Post 2792515)
Hey Niner, you are too young to remember tinfoil. It's aluminum. My father could never pronounce that word. After two shots of ethanol, I can't either. Yeah, let's stick to tinfoil.

I'm only young on the outside. I assure you I remember things I like beer cans with pull tabs... the kind you couldn't crush on your head. I also remember roaring automobiles that were like couches with wheels instead of spaceships and the golden age of double action revolvers in the 1950s-70s.

...

I'm still waiting for a BBS-style social networking site that doesn't include pictures and doesn't have 500 info-crazed partners.

/waits for a long time

ring 05-26-2010 11:15 AM

We should join a test pattern club.

snowy 05-26-2010 11:15 AM

I kinda miss those.

Cimarron29414 05-26-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowy (Post 2792438)
And yeah, if I didn't have a Facebook, the people I work with would think I was weird.

Uh snowy, Facebook is not why they think you are weird. Just sayin'.:)

LordEden 05-26-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9 (Post 2792518)
I'm still waiting for a BBS-style social networking site that doesn't include pictures and doesn't have 500 info-crazed partners.

/waits for a long time

You and Cinn can wait in the same line. She is waiting to add Webcams to IRC. I think smeth was programming something like that.

noodle 05-26-2010 01:16 PM

Cyn turned me on to ReclaimPrivacy two weeks ago and it's working really well.
They have updated it at least once that I remember, with each facebook tweak.

The ads on the side are typically targeted based on the words that you use in your status.
Try putting up a status about wanting a cupcake... one of my friends on a SuperDiet through a nutritionist now sees an ad about cupcakes every. single. day. Poor thing, I think she's going to go apopleptic any day now.
Obama wants me, as a single mother, to return to school and he'll give me $10k. Funny, my degree is gonna cost $140K, I'm already in school, and I don't have kids. w0ot for targeted advertising. ;)

FuglyStick 05-26-2010 02:13 PM

I deleted my Facebook a month ago. I never used it anyway.

Besides, all the sick fucks I know are RIGHT HERE. :paranoid:

snowy 05-26-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodle (Post 2792589)
w0ot for targeted advertising. ;)

Every time you reply to a blog entry I've replied to/wrote, I get a little alert in my Gmail, and it triggers Gmail's advertising to offer me "Miracle Noodles."

noodle 05-26-2010 02:22 PM

Love.
It.

hunnychile 05-26-2010 03:07 PM

I'd rather join Test Pattern than Facebook these days.

The same old buttheads act like buttheads from high school in Facebook. It's gotten too boring for my time.

Redlemon 05-26-2010 03:48 PM

Did someone call The Onion?
Quote:

Entire Facebook Staff Laughs As Man Tightens Privacy Settings
MAY 26, 2010 | ISSUE 46•21

PALO ALTO, CA—All 1,472 employees of Facebook, Inc. reportedly burst out in uncontrollable laughter Wednesday following Albuquerque resident Jason Herrick's attempts to protect his personal information from exploitation on the social-networking site. "Look, he's clicking 'Friends Only' for his e-mail address. Like that's going to make a difference!" howled infrastructure manager Evan Hollingsworth, tears streaming down his face, to several of his doubled-over coworkers. "Oh, sure, by all means, Jason, 'delete' that photo. Man, this is so rich." According to internal sources, the entire staff of Facebook was left gasping for air minutes later when the "hilarious" Herrick believed he had actually blocked third-party ads.

Eilonwy 05-26-2010 04:39 PM

Redlemon, that's hilarious! :lol:

But I did opt out of that instant personalization crap... in case it does do something. :p

blahblah454 05-26-2010 05:19 PM

Even if The Onion laughs at me, I still changed my settings.

warrrreagl 05-27-2010 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunnychile (Post 2792617)
The same old buttheads act like buttheads from high school in Facebook.

I was a long-haired freak guitar player in high school, and I keep getting tons of Facebook friend requests from assholes that wouldn't have spit on me if I were on fire back then.

I'm keeping their tradition going by ignoring them back.

It's difficult now that Grancey and I are back living in the same town we grew up in, because we keep seeing people in stores that we went to school with and we don't want to run into them anymore. It's not that we're snobs - it's that we can't figure out for the life of us why these people are suddenly acting like they were our best friends in high school and they want to pick up where they left off. I have to frequently say things like, "There's James!" and we both have to duck down a different shopping aisle to avoid getting trapped by an asshole from high school for the next 45 minutes.

It's like we're playing "Shopping in Witness Protection."

I now return you to your Facebook privacy discussion...

Plan9 05-27-2010 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2792603)
I deleted my Facebook a month ago.

Really? If by delete you mean attempt to void out and anonymize your profile, sure.

Somebody show me where that "delete" button is on there. Oh yeah, there isn't one.

Sadly, if there was... it'd be largely just for show. They have all zee info.

Baraka_Guru 05-27-2010 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9 (Post 2792742)
Really? If by delete you mean attempt to void out and anonymize your profile, sure.

Somebody show me where that "delete" button is on there. Oh yeah, there isn't one.

Sadly, if there was... it'd be largely just for show. They have all zee info.

*NEWSFLASH*

All of your posts here are attached to your IP address....

Okay, maybe that isn't news.

But you get the idea.

The Internet isn't the best place to play if you're that concerned about privacy.

(Psst, we know where you are.... http://whatismyipaddress.com/)

Plan9 05-27-2010 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2792756)
*NEWSFLASH*

"Were you surprised? I was surprised."

Is it wrong that I spend all my waking moments using Google Earth to look down on DKSuddeth's house?

Jove 05-27-2010 06:37 AM

Mostly secure thanks to the reclaim privacy report.


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