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Shauk · 05-26-2010, 06:40 AM

ReclaimPrivacy.org | Facebook Privacy Scanner

pretty easy scan to see if you've got any vulnerabilities or not.

Don't blame facebook, blame yourself for not using the tools they've given you.

Baraka_Guru · 05-26-2010, 07:02 AM

Hey, a good find! Thanks.

I just performed a lockdown on my Facebook profile. It was more exposed than I thought it was.

Everyone should check this out.

warrrreagl · 05-26-2010, 07:06 AM

My browser warns me this link to check the safety of my privacy might not be safe.

Redlemon · 05-26-2010, 07:06 AM

Of course, everything will change today, there's a whole new "simpler" and "better"* privacy model being released on Facebook today. However, I'm sure that the ReclaimPrivacy folks will adjust their scanner accordingly.

__
* results may vary

LordEden · 05-26-2010, 07:08 AM

Thanks for the link man, I thought I had got all the privacy settings, but apparently missed the HUGE one with instant personalization.

I don't use facebook anyway, waste of internet space IMHO.

Baraka_Guru · 05-26-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Of course, everything will change today, there's a whole new "simpler" and "better"* privacy model being released on Facebook today. However, I'm sure that the ReclaimPrivacy folks will adjust their scanner accordingly.

__
* results may vary

Oh, man. I guess we'll have to see.

I'm hoping Facebook with "transfer/transpose/translate" old settings into new setting equivalents.

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Originally Posted by LordEden

Thanks for the link man, I thought I had got all the privacy settings, but apparently missed the HUGE one with instant personalization.

Yeah, I missed that too. Is it a newer option?

Quote:

I don't use facebook anyway, waste of internet space IMHO.

For some of us, Facebook is a part of jorbs.

snowy · 05-26-2010, 07:12 AM

Someone here linked this on a FB group a couple weeks ago and I've been using it every couple of days to ensure my profile is suitably locked down. However, since they changed the way interests/music/whatever works with the linky things, I've removed a lot of my information.

And yeah, if I didn't have a Facebook, the people I work with would think I was weird.

LordEden · 05-26-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

Yeah, I missed that too. Is it a newer option?

That's the BIG one that got them in hot water, the one where if you "like" something on Pandora it shows up on your facebook wall. I thought I had it turned off cause well, I like Pandora but not fucking facebook. I'm glad I had it checked again.

Baraka_Guru · 05-26-2010, 07:49 AM

Shit, don't mention Pandora. I'm still heartbroken about that.

Cynthetiq · 05-26-2010, 10:11 AM

I've not read about their new simpler features yet. But here's the crux for me, the people that got your data? They got it already. So all they have to do is do this merry go round every year and the other companies get what they want anyways.

since someone mentioned pandora: FYI, Pandora Makes Your Music Public | Epicenter| Wired.com

Lasereth · 05-26-2010, 10:33 AM

The other day I logged into Youtube and it asked me if I wanted to be prompted when favoriting or rating a video to post the vid on my FB page. I said sure, I'd like to be prompted, that could be neat. So I go on my merry way, then the next day I find 10 videos posted to my FB page that I was never prompted for. What it actually meant: POST EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I LIKE OR FAVORITE ON FB ALSO

Rage.

Baraka_Guru · 05-26-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

Rage.

...and embarrassment?

warrrreagl · 05-26-2010, 10:46 AM

Last year, Grancey and I bought fishing licenses from our local Academy Sports store. We thought it would be a cool thing to do. In order to make the purchase at Customer Service, I had to give them my driver's license, and the girl took it and disappeared behind a computer screen for a few minutes. I didn't have to fill out anything, and the only information that APPEARS on my driver's license is my DL number, my DOB, the DL expiration date, my name and address, and my sex/height/weight/eyes/hair stuff.

She returned with a one-page printout containing my new fishing license and several lines of other identifying information that is NOT on my driver's license. This damn page listed my cell phone number and the last college degree I received. Where the fuck did they get that? What database do they tap into in order to issue a freakin' fishing license?

But here's the real kicker - ever since then, my Facebook page has been oddly suggesting that I join various fishing pages and organizations.

I guess my point is that no matter what you do, they've already got you.

Plan9 · 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM

*dons tinfoil hat, makes necessary appearance in thread, defeats self by being on other employment-related sites*

Redlemon · 05-26-2010, 11:02 AM

OK, here's the meat of it:

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First, we've built one simple control to set who can see the content you post. In a couple of clicks, you can set the content you've posted to be open to everyone, friends of your friends or just your friends.

This control will also apply to settings in new products we launch going forward. So if you decide to share your content with friends only, then we will set future settings to friends only as well. This means you won't have to worry about new settings in the future.

This single control makes it easier to set who can see all your content at once, but you can still use all of the same granular controls we've offered if you'd like.

Second, we've reduced the amount of basic information that must be visible to everyone and we are removing the connections privacy model. Now we'll be giving you the ability to control who can see your friends and pages. These fields will no longer have to be public.

The controls for this basic information can be found at the top of the privacy page in Basic Directory Information. We recommend that you make these settings open to everyone. Otherwise, people you know may not be able to find you and that will make the site less useful for you.

Third, we've made it simple to control whether applications and websites can access any of your information. Many of you enjoy using applications or playing games, but for those of you who don't we've added an easy way to turn off Platform completely. This will make sure that none of your information is shared with applications or websites.

If you simply want to turn off instant personalization, we've also made that easier. Already, partner sites can only see things you've made visible to everyone. But if you want to prevent them from even seeing that, you can now easily turn off instant personalization completely.

Finally and perhaps most importantly, I am pleased to say that with these changes the overhaul of Facebook's privacy model is complete. If you find these changes helpful, then we plan to keep this privacy framework for a long time. That means you won't need to worry about changes. (Believe me, we're probably happier about this than you are.)

Of course we'll continue responding to your feedback and making things simpler. But after our recent changes we're now done migrating away from the old network-based privacy model. Our new model will help the Facebook community grow to millions of more people around the world.

On a personal note, I just turned 26 years old a few days ago. I started Facebook when I was 19 and it's amazing to look back at how it has evolved. There have been a lot of changes over the years as we've continued to innovate, and I appreciate that you have all stuck with us. Each time we make a change we try to learn from past lessons, and each time we make new mistakes too. We are far from perfect, but we always try our hardest to build the best service for you and for the world. So I just want to say thanks.

We'll be rolling out these changes to all of you over the next few weeks. You can always check out the new privacy page, which explains how the settings will work. When you get the new controls, please play around and find the settings that feel best for you. If you have any questions or comments, let us know. We're listening.

Sounds positive. Easier to cut off stuff you don't want, less mandatory full-public access, full granularity if you wish it. Probably still defaults you to fly-wide-open, but we'll see.

ring · 05-26-2010, 11:05 AM

Hey Niner, you are too young to remember tinfoil.

It's aluminum. My father could never pronounce that word.

After two shots of ethanol, I can't either.

Yeah, let's stick to tinfoil.

Plan9 · 05-26-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ring

Hey Niner, you are too young to remember tinfoil. It's aluminum. My father could never pronounce that word. After two shots of ethanol, I can't either. Yeah, let's stick to tinfoil.

I'm only young on the outside. I assure you I remember things I like beer cans with pull tabs... the kind you couldn't crush on your head. I also remember roaring automobiles that were like couches with wheels instead of spaceships and the golden age of double action revolvers in the 1950s-70s.

...

I'm still waiting for a BBS-style social networking site that doesn't include pictures and doesn't have 500 info-crazed partners.

/waits for a long time

ring · 05-26-2010, 11:15 AM

We should join a test pattern club.

snowy · 05-26-2010, 11:15 AM

I kinda miss those.

Cimarron29414 · 05-26-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snowy

And yeah, if I didn't have a Facebook, the people I work with would think I was weird.

Uh snowy, Facebook is not why they think you are weird. Just sayin'.

LordEden · 05-26-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

I'm still waiting for a BBS-style social networking site that doesn't include pictures and doesn't have 500 info-crazed partners.

/waits for a long time

You and Cinn can wait in the same line. She is waiting to add Webcams to IRC. I think smeth was programming something like that.

noodle · 05-26-2010, 01:16 PM

Cyn turned me on to ReclaimPrivacy two weeks ago and it's working really well.
They have updated it at least once that I remember, with each facebook tweak.

The ads on the side are typically targeted based on the words that you use in your status.
Try putting up a status about wanting a cupcake... one of my friends on a SuperDiet through a nutritionist now sees an ad about cupcakes every. single. day. Poor thing, I think she's going to go apopleptic any day now.
Obama wants me, as a single mother, to return to school and he'll give me $10k. Funny, my degree is gonna cost $140K, I'm already in school, and I don't have kids. w0ot for targeted advertising.

FuglyStick · 05-26-2010, 02:13 PM

I deleted my Facebook a month ago. I never used it anyway.

Besides, all the sick fucks I know are RIGHT HERE.

snowy · 05-26-2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodle

w0ot for targeted advertising.

Every time you reply to a blog entry I've replied to/wrote, I get a little alert in my Gmail, and it triggers Gmail's advertising to offer me "Miracle Noodles."

noodle · 05-26-2010, 02:22 PM

Love.
It.

hunnychile · 05-26-2010, 03:07 PM

I'd rather join Test Pattern than Facebook these days.

The same old buttheads act like buttheads from high school in Facebook. It's gotten too boring for my time.

Redlemon · 05-26-2010, 03:48 PM

Did someone call The Onion?

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Entire Facebook Staff Laughs As Man Tightens Privacy Settings
MAY 26, 2010 | ISSUE 46•21

PALO ALTO, CA—All 1,472 employees of Facebook, Inc. reportedly burst out in uncontrollable laughter Wednesday following Albuquerque resident Jason Herrick's attempts to protect his personal information from exploitation on the social-networking site. "Look, he's clicking 'Friends Only' for his e-mail address. Like that's going to make a difference!" howled infrastructure manager Evan Hollingsworth, tears streaming down his face, to several of his doubled-over coworkers. "Oh, sure, by all means, Jason, 'delete' that photo. Man, this is so rich." According to internal sources, the entire staff of Facebook was left gasping for air minutes later when the "hilarious" Herrick believed he had actually blocked third-party ads.

Eilonwy · 05-26-2010, 04:39 PM

Redlemon, that's hilarious!

But I did opt out of that instant personalization crap... in case it does do something.

blahblah454 · 05-26-2010, 05:19 PM

Even if The Onion laughs at me, I still changed my settings.

warrrreagl · 05-27-2010, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunnychile

The same old buttheads act like buttheads from high school in Facebook.

I was a long-haired freak guitar player in high school, and I keep getting tons of Facebook friend requests from assholes that wouldn't have spit on me if I were on fire back then.

I'm keeping their tradition going by ignoring them back.

It's difficult now that Grancey and I are back living in the same town we grew up in, because we keep seeing people in stores that we went to school with and we don't want to run into them anymore. It's not that we're snobs - it's that we can't figure out for the life of us why these people are suddenly acting like they were our best friends in high school and they want to pick up where they left off. I have to frequently say things like, "There's James!" and we both have to duck down a different shopping aisle to avoid getting trapped by an asshole from high school for the next 45 minutes.

It's like we're playing "Shopping in Witness Protection."

I now return you to your Facebook privacy discussion...

Plan9 · 05-27-2010, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick

I deleted my Facebook a month ago.

Really? If by delete you mean attempt to void out and anonymize your profile, sure.

Somebody show me where that "delete" button is on there. Oh yeah, there isn't one.

Sadly, if there was... it'd be largely just for show. They have all zee info.

Baraka_Guru · 05-27-2010, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

Really? If by delete you mean attempt to void out and anonymize your profile, sure.

Somebody show me where that "delete" button is on there. Oh yeah, there isn't one.

Sadly, if there was... it'd be largely just for show. They have all zee info.

*NEWSFLASH*

All of your posts here are attached to your IP address....

Okay, maybe that isn't news.

But you get the idea.

The Internet isn't the best place to play if you're that concerned about privacy.

(Psst, we know where you are.... http://whatismyipaddress.com/)

Plan9 · 05-27-2010, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

*NEWSFLASH*

"Were you surprised? I was surprised."

Is it wrong that I spend all my waking moments using Google Earth to look down on DKSuddeth's house?

Jove · 05-27-2010, 06:37 AM

Mostly secure thanks to the reclaim privacy report.

05-26-2010, 06:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	For those concerned about Facebook privacy ReclaimPrivacy.org \| Facebook Privacy Scanner pretty easy scan to see if you've got any vulnerabilities or not. Don't blame facebook, blame yourself for not using the tools they've given you.

05-26-2010, 07:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Hey, a good find! Thanks. I just performed a lockdown on my Facebook profile. It was more exposed than I thought it was. Everyone should check this out. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

05-26-2010, 07:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	My browser warns me this link to check the safety of my privacy might not be safe. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-26-2010, 07:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Of course, everything will change today, there's a whole new "simpler" and "better"* privacy model being released on Facebook today. However, I'm sure that the ReclaimPrivacy folks will adjust their scanner accordingly. __ * results may vary __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

05-26-2010, 07:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	Someone here linked this on a FB group a couple weeks ago and I've been using it every couple of days to ensure my profile is suitably locked down. However, since they changed the way interests/music/whatever works with the linky things, I've removed a lot of my information. And yeah, if I didn't have a Facebook, the people I work with would think I was weird. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

05-26-2010, 07:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Shit, don't mention Pandora. I'm still heartbroken about that. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

05-26-2010, 10:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	I've not read about their new simpler features yet. But here's the crux for me, the people that got your data? They got it already. So all they have to do is do this merry go round every year and the other companies get what they want anyways. since someone mentioned pandora: FYI, Pandora Makes Your Music Public \| Epicenter\| Wired.com __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

05-26-2010, 10:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	The other day I logged into Youtube and it asked me if I wanted to be prompted when favoriting or rating a video to post the vid on my FB page. I said sure, I'd like to be prompted, that could be neat. So I go on my merry way, then the next day I find 10 videos posted to my FB page that I was never prompted for. What it actually meant: POST EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I LIKE OR FAVORITE ON FB ALSO Rage. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

05-26-2010, 10:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	Last year, Grancey and I bought fishing licenses from our local Academy Sports store. We thought it would be a cool thing to do. In order to make the purchase at Customer Service, I had to give them my driver's license, and the girl took it and disappeared behind a computer screen for a few minutes. I didn't have to fill out anything, and the only information that APPEARS on my driver's license is my DL number, my DOB, the DL expiration date, my name and address, and my sex/height/weight/eyes/hair stuff. She returned with a one-page printout containing my new fishing license and several lines of other identifying information that is NOT on my driver's license. This damn page listed my cell phone number and the last college degree I received. Where the fuck did they get that? What database do they tap into in order to issue a freakin' fishing license? But here's the real kicker - ever since then, my Facebook page has been oddly suggesting that I join various fishing pages and organizations. I guess my point is that no matter what you do, they've already got you. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-26-2010, 10:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	dons tinfoil hat, makes necessary appearance in thread, defeats self by being on other employment-related sites __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

05-26-2010, 11:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
ring ░ Location: ❤	Hey Niner, you are too young to remember tinfoil. It's aluminum. My father could never pronounce that word. After two shots of ethanol, I can't either. Yeah, let's stick to tinfoil.

05-26-2010, 11:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
ring ░ Location: ❤	We should join a test pattern club.

05-26-2010, 11:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	I kinda miss those. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

05-26-2010, 02:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	I deleted my Facebook a month ago. I never used it anyway. Besides, all the sick fucks I know are RIGHT HERE. __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!

05-26-2010, 03:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	I'd rather join Test Pattern than Facebook these days. The same old buttheads act like buttheads from high school in Facebook. It's gotten too boring for my time. __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

05-26-2010, 04:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
Eilonwy Tilted Location: NJ	Redlemon, that's hilarious! But I did opt out of that instant personalization crap... in case it does do something.

05-26-2010, 05:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	Even if The Onion laughs at me, I still changed my settings.

05-27-2010, 06:37 AM	#34 (permalink)
Jove Groovy Hipster Nerd Location: Michigan	Mostly secure thanks to the reclaim privacy report.