Plan9

Got to talking to some humans yesterday at my institution of higher learning and aside from the usual whining about academic hurdles and wasted weekends, we somehow got into talk about how men have an apparent disdain for torso-covering articles of clothing. Men don't like shirts.

I think it's true. I almost never wear shirts indoors. To confirm this, I went back and looked at my photo albums. Me as a kid without a shirt, me in the barracks without a shirt, me at my parent's place without a shirt, me in dirty foreign countries without a shirt, me living with various girlfriends without a shirt, me being married without a shirt, me being divorced without a shirt, me at my current apartment without a shirt.

Really, if it wasn't for the goofy gown, I'd probably graduate from college without a shirt.


The discussion I had with them crazy college kids (two females, in this case) involved issues surrounding exposed armpits and hairy nipples and how they weren't comfortable with those if another person was around. I didn't grow up around females nor do I have any issues with walking around indoors mostly naked since I'm scrawny and my residential AC unit is mediocre at best. The military and college have only reinforced my comfort with being less than fully clothed.


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Here's my question:

Guys: Do you rock it like our mascot LordEden and rarely wear a shirt indoors?

Ladies: Do you think it's cool for a guy to be shirtless at home or is it somehow weird?

Thoughts?

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snowy

SHOW ME YOUR MOOBS!!!

I think we all foresaw my response. Shirtless is great. I think everyone should take a page out of your book and Eden's book and go shirtless more often. It doesn't bother me at all. Hairy nips? Yes. Chest hair? Even better.

May I remind you of some great shirtless men:

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Baraka_Guru

I always wear a shirt, unless I'm showering or sleeping (in which case, I'm covered with blankets).

But I wear a shirt while sleeping if it's cold.

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Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
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The_Jazz

My at-home attire is usually a t-shirt, boxers and dress socks. Seriously. Unless there are people over or the house is cold (when I throw on PJ bottoms), I'm as close to naked as I can get.

Why the t-shirt? I've got a hairy chest and don't want to contaminate anyone's food. Seriously. That dates back to pre-marriage when I lived with a bunch of guys and would cook. Too many complaints about chest hairs in stuff I cooked for people.

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snowy

Baraka and Jazz...you guys make me sad.

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Lasereth

I go shirt-less fairly often at home. The only reason I ever put one on is if it's too cold.

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The_Jazz

I'll come visit and we can both go shirtless together. That is, once you ditch E and I ditch The_Wife.

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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

Baraka_Guru

I dunno; I think clothing is a great invention.

Does it disappoint you that I'm currently wearing a cardigan over a T-shirt?

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

StanT

Indoors, I'm simply lazy. I don't put a shirt on until I have a reason, nor do I take one off without a reason.

Outdoors, my lily white flesh cooks like chicken skin under a broiler in the high altitude Colorado sun. I always wear a hat and shirt outside (fried bald spot is not fun).

LordEden

I love how I'm the Chubby Poster Boy (tm) of shirtless men everywhere. I'm proud, I'd ask for a metal to show my support of "Hairy Shirtless White Men Club", but I think PlanetNiner would staple it to my chest.

I don't get the wearing of a shirt when not in public. Yes, if temperatures are not in the range of shirtlessness, I understand putting a shirt on, but why have one more layer of fabric when it's hot? Friends have brought SOs and people that don't know me to my house and I'm standing around shirtless. Sometimes I get funny looks, other-times nothing. I think they were warned. I love cooking shirtless and have never seen a rogue chest hair end up anywhere.

Viva la Shirtlessness!

(I wish I had the man chest of Mike Rowe or Mr. PI)

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The_Jazz

Try lifting more than 12 oz of cold, refreshing malty beverages once in a while then.

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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

Giant Hamburger

Today it will get into the 90s and stay there until sometime in October.
I have always lived in a very warm climate.
I have been shirtless and hairy-chested at home since I was a baby.

snowy

The cardigan makes up for the shirtlessness--you know that!

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Plan9

Hey, hey, hey... no cardigans in my thread! Shirtless or GTFO.

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"You should not drink... and bake."

dlish

so what your really trying to say is that you end up without a shirt after every relationship? :P

/end threadjack

i try to go shirtless whenever i can. unfortunately here, any public nudity can lead you in jail, so im confined to going topless only at home and at the beach.

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Plan9

Oooooh, good one. And true.

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"You should not drink... and bake."

snowy

It is a truth universally acknowledged that women with English degrees melt at the sight of men in cardigans.

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Jove

Shirt stays on most of the time out of habit and comfort.

Jinn

I wear shirts all times except the shower; even sleeping, etc. Probably because I have moobs.

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Xerxys

I'm shirtless, ... clothesless as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

inBOIL

I'm only shirtless A) When I'm in bed/showering/just woke up, and B) It's hot outside and shirtlessness is socially appropriate. I'm usually more comfortable with some kind of covering on my torso.

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Shauk

i'm shielding your eyes from the moobs, doing you a favor. Don't dare make me take my shirt off on the beach :P

Charlatan

I would probably go around shirtless a lot more if we didn't have live in help. It's bloody hot here all the time and I don't like to run the aircon. On her days off or when she has gone to bed for the night, I am frequently topless.

That said, in Canada, where it's cold pretty much all the time, I was rarely without a shirt.

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FelixP

I used to go around shirtless, and when I rejoin the First Civie Divie I probably will again, but for the time being I don't usually, unless I'm in the shower or the rack. Shirtless is more comfortable, though.

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Plan9

I'm really kinda shocked. I expected the barbarian hordes of TFP to be far more inclined toward a naked torso.

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Whatever you can carry.

"You should not drink... and bake."

Baraka_Guru

I'm much closer to a tea party; a night at the opera; or sitting in the parlour, discussing politics over cigars and brandy. These things require covered torsos.

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

Jetée

Not that it matters, but I'm on the opposite end of the presumed OP scale, even with all the traveling that I do, here's one little fun fact about Jet:
in the past ten months, not only have I not ever been seen without a shirt, buttoned-down (dress shirts) or button-up (golf/tennis shirts)... I haven't worn a T-shirt since 1999, but that's beside the point, where was I? Oh, in the past ten months, I am on shirts-on clockwork detail plus always, always wearing a sweater / pullover / "two-times-the-size-of-my-body" kind-of coverall is on my person.

There's something about my body which doesn't store fat well anymore. I still could use some tone, but gosh-be-all-gone, I'm always friggin' cold.

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spindles

spindles leaves to go cardigan shopping

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Plan9

I will buy you a t-shirt and send it to you. Seriously. I've got one in mind.

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"You should not drink... and bake."

CinnamonGirl

Also, women who are considering lit degrees, and are, in general, bookworms



Besides that, though... I very much approve of shirtless men. For one thing, I'm touchy. Not annoyingly so (uh, I don't think), but if I reach over to rub your back or kiss your shoulder, I'd prefer contact with skin, not fabric.


But, I guess you all knew that, since Eden's apparently the Shirtless Mascot

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spindles

I wear short sleeved shirts just about all the time. If I did take it off, you'd see the (sun) imprint, except the T-shirt I would have on would have a very hairy 'pattern' on the front.

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drag0nmanes

What are these shirts you speak of? Around the house I tend to go shirtless year round mostly, I'm known to strangers as my roomies pet wookie...

Fremen

Heh, if only my torso were like Magnum's.
But no, you wouldn't want to see my lily-white hide all bare and glowing in the dark.

I wonder how many of us would be right at home on an episode of COPS?
I think it was a prerequisite that you had to appear shirtless on there.

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MrFriendly

If I still lived alone I'd be nude.

I don't think my flat mates would appreciate that though.

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Plan9

Ha! Excellent observation.

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ironpham

I'm a fan of shirtless indoors.

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Iliftrocks

I usually wear shirts for the eye safety of others. Prefer sans-a-shirt lifestyle myself.

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Jinn

The other downside is that I am in a computer chair the vast majority of my day, every day. Shirtless, I stick to the back of the chair. Very irritating to desperate your skin from the material of the chair every time you move or get up.

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Shadowex3

115lbs of skin, bone, and organs of computer nerd. I need all the insulation, and protection, I can get. I'm one of the few people who doesn't actually work with fire or metal for a living that nonetheless has both launched at him fairly regularly.

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MSD

If nobody's around whose opinion matters, I'm in boxers unless it's cold. When it's cold out I go to pick my brother up from the train or work at night, shorts, slippers, and a Snuggie with the windows down to get a nice breeze around the torso.