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Cynthetiq 03-07-2010 08:58 AM

State of TFP 2010 and its future
 
I have been doing stuff about the boards behind the scenes. I haven't really been posting so much mostly because the time that I do have has been behind the scenes and doing research on some new software and upgrades.

In February 2009 Halx announced that he would be taking a step back from the day to day operations and goings on of TFP. He passed the responsibility to me. I don't think we ever made a community announcement, but we did acknowledge it among the staff. It gave me the fire to complete some things that I had kept on the back burner. Most were minor updates, but nothing that has added much functionality but definitely enhanced the community experience. Sometimes, when I see Halx posting often I forget that but I'd like to remind myself and the rest of the community that the buck stops here with me. If you have any issues or comments about the site or staff members, please remember that I am very approachable and will take time to listen to your concerns.

There are a few other staffing changes that you may have noticed. The admins have added another admin back into the fold, amonkie to help us with some of the more technical workload. World's King was also brought back as a moderator. He is a long time member with strong opinions on keeping this place running smoothly, and practically omnipresent in chat. Guccilvr is no longer a staff member but I'd like to thank him for his years of service on the staff, his dedication and passion for this place runs really deep. Please remember to thank them for their hard work and contributions.

A few months ago we split off the Erogenous Zone into its own website. The link that you see on the home page will more than likely be removed in the near future. They are separate sites with separate databases. Right now they have the same themes so it's a little confusing to the eye. I plan on working on similar yet different themes in the next few weeks. There is a good amount of work that needs to be done there to bring it up to standards that help differentiate it from the TFP Discussion community. If anyone in the community would like to create a new logo for the TFP Erogenous Zone, it would be very helpful.

We're in discussions as to how to move the site to the next level and we'll make an announcement in the near future. I'm writing this prematurely mostly because this is the first time that I've had an opportunity to sit and actually write something here. I have to say that the staff has lots of ideas and not only do we have to figure out which ones to implement but also what time frame it's going to get done in. I would also like to solicit some ideas from the community. There are no guarantees that we'll implement your ideas, but it gives us a good idea as to what you may be looking for as a community. We want to improve the interaction, the discussion, and the experience here at Tilted Forum Project which in turn will attract more individuals to interact and discuss issues. In order to achieve this, just like the discussions, we need your participation.

I plan on presenting some more information as soon as we've completed the plans and time lines.

Craven Morehead 03-07-2010 11:59 AM

Thanks to you Cyn, Halx and everyone else that has been associated with keeping this forum so vital for so long.

Looking forward to the future.

Stare At The Sun 03-07-2010 12:12 PM

Thanks for the info.

It's good to know what's going on behind the scenes :).

LoganSnake 03-07-2010 01:17 PM

As long as you aren't planning to implement Facebook log-in like every other site on the internet seems to be doing, I'm game.

SecretMethod70 03-07-2010 01:29 PM

Actually, logansnake, we implemented a Facebook login option awhile ago, but it's only an option so you probably didn't even notice :)

LoganSnake 03-07-2010 01:34 PM

I thought it was just to link articles to your page. Alrighty.

Cynthetiq 03-07-2010 05:17 PM

If you log out you'll see that you can log in via Facebook Connect and Google/AOL/Open ID.

I didn't make a major announcement because most wouldn't associate their real life account to here anyways.

LoganSnake 03-07-2010 06:22 PM

That's probably the problem. I don't even know where there log-out button is unless I look for it...

Reese 03-08-2010 02:08 AM

WTF You can log out!?

Poppinjay 03-08-2010 07:40 AM

Why aren' there more puppies?

Plan9 03-08-2010 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2765034)
WTF You can log out!?

Heh, "They check in... but they don't check out."

Merlocke 03-08-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2765034)
WTF You can log out!?

I think I've only ever pressed that button once, just to see if it'd work. Otherwise, I just time out and have to re-login again.

cementor 03-09-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9 (Post 2765167)
Heh, "They check in... but they don't check out."

Just like a Roach Motel!

Seriously I really enjoy the site, though I probably lurk too much . Keep up the good work. I find it very stimulating to follow many of the discussions. Thanks to all of you that keep it running smoothly.

Daniel_ 03-09-2010 11:43 PM

I vote for "More beer, and bigger women!" :D

LordEden 03-10-2010 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2765837)
I vote for "Bigger beer, and more women!" :D

I fixed that for you.

LoganSnake 03-10-2010 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2765837)
I vote for "More beer, and bigger women!" :D

Bigger? As in size wise?

I'm with Eden on this. :surprised:

LordEden 03-10-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganSnake (Post 2765916)
I'm with Eden on this. :surprised:

I think this pretty much shows that TFP is going to hell and not coming back. This is the first sign, when LS and I agree on something.

When WK and I start being nice to each other and I start thinking that Martian "isn't that bad of a guy" the end will be upon us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost Busters
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!


Psycho Dad 03-10-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq (Post 2764774)
I would also like to solicit some ideas from the community.

Bring back hard core moderation. Seriously.

While I'm as big a fan of the one liner as anyone, some of this shit has gotten out of hand. On a forum that deals a lot about sexualtiy, some of the discussion has really not progressed, evolved or moved forward like it used to.

Plan9 03-10-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad (Post 2766178)
Bring back hard core moderation. Seriously. ...some of the discussion has really not progressed, evolved or moved forward like it used to.

Describe.

Glory's Sun 03-11-2010 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad (Post 2766178)
Bring back hard core moderation. Seriously.

While I'm as big a fan of the one liner as anyone, some of this shit has gotten out of hand. On a forum that deals a lot about sexualtiy, some of the discussion has really not progressed, evolved or moved forward like it used to.


heh. good luck with that.

Not downing your idea, just saying hardcore moderation died a LONG time ago and knowing what I know, I can't see it coming back. Although, when it comes to this place, I'm wrong quite a bit.

The_Jazz 03-11-2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad (Post 2766178)
Bring back hard core moderation. Seriously.

While I'm as big a fan of the one liner as anyone, some of this shit has gotten out of hand. On a forum that deals a lot about sexualtiy, some of the discussion has really not progressed, evolved or moved forward like it used to.

That's an interesting idea. Seriously. It's a discussion I'm open to having and one that makes sense in terms of some of the things to come.

Psycho Dad 03-11-2010 02:59 PM

I was admittedly in a piss poor mood last night I thought I'd come back and revisit this and see if i was in better sorts today.

As I think about it, I still feel this way for the most part. There are areas of the board and certain subjects that just need to be treated maturely. I've been as guilty as anyone with inappropriate responses and was called out by other members before moderation became necessary. I'd like to think tfp could handle damn near any topic without the need for anonymous posting.

Cynthetiq 03-11-2010 03:08 PM

Psycho, thanks for that. I agree we need to elevate the level of discourse and our community does do a good job at help that along. At the same time I think that sometimes, the community equally hinders it in the same manner when it doesn't want to evolve.

LoganSnake 03-11-2010 03:53 PM

So what you're all implying is that we're going back to the Nazi* regime?

Can you give some examples of what you're talking about? I haven't seen any threads that require "good ol' days" style moderation in a long ass while and those that do, actually have a mod present.

I'm confused.


*Goodwined 24 posts in.

Hektore 03-11-2010 05:24 PM

I'm not quite sure what you all mean by hardcore moderation (I think I know what you mean) but I can get on board with cracking down on some of the one-liners as well as just locking threads when they disintegrate.

I feel like since the hall of fame went up, some threads just degenerate into a 'lets see if we can get this into the HoF' contest. Thread that really don't have anything going for them. Example: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...bits-nsfw.html. The OP is gone and the whole rest of the discussion...well, you can see for yourself.

Don't get me wrong, I love the HoF and I want it to stay, but I feel like it should be like fight club. We all know that it's there, but nobody should even acknowledge it, except in the nomination thread, of course.

Willravel 03-11-2010 05:39 PM

Thanks for putting the rules back up.

Fly 03-11-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppinjay (Post 2765108)
Why aren' there more puppies?


sorry 'bout that...........


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...g?t=1268359660

Cynthetiq 03-11-2010 06:15 PM

we never got rid of the rules... they just got less detailed because people were lawyering them to death.

LordEden 03-11-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hektore (Post 2766509)
I'm not quite sure what you all mean by hardcore moderation (I think I know what you mean) but I can get on board with cracking down on some of the one-liners as well as just locking threads when they disintegrate.

I feel like since the hall of fame went up, some threads just degenerate into a 'lets see if we can get this into the HoF' contest. Thread that really don't have anything going for them. Example: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...bits-nsfw.html. The OP is gone and the whole rest of the discussion...well, you can see for yourself.

I always thought that idiotic threads like that one (where the OP posted something drunk and then regretted it the next day like fucking a fat chick) are considered "open threads". They have no purpose so and are not going anywhere... so why not fill them up with nonsense since the original OP failed before he/she/it/World'sKing actually got out the gate. It's already wasted space, why not fill it up with something funny?

I've seen that on other threads, but if we are against that, then why not just have a mod delete the thread after the OP edited his original post with an "My Bad I'm Drunk". You could also move it to Nonsense and say "Do what you want, just don't break anything".

If anyone is going to post tits in a thread threadjackstyle, I nominate Redlemon or Bobby to do it.

Hektore 03-12-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2766555)
I always thought that idiotic threads like that one (where the OP posted something drunk and then regretted it the next day like fucking a fat chick) are considered "open threads". They have no purpose so and are not going anywhere... so why not fill them up with nonsense since the original OP failed before he/she/it/World'sKing actually got out the gate. It's already wasted space, why not fill it up with something funny?

I've seen that on other threads, but if we are against that, then why not just have a mod delete the thread after the OP edited his original post with an "My Bad I'm Drunk". You could also move it to Nonsense and say "Do what you want, just don't break anything".

If anyone is going to post tits in a thread threadjackstyle, I nominate Redlemon or Bobby to do it.

Well, it lowers the level of discourse, which is I think the sort of thing I think we're talking about. It also makes it look like an acceptable sort of thing to do - even when the thread hasn't disintegrated. Some folks aren't as good at context as others and when they do it in a more serious thread, that is a problem. Doing something about it in a more serious thread leads to things like 'so and so did it over in that other thread', 'mods play favourites', 'tfp is teh suxxors!', 'this place has been ruined'. It also has a tendency to build on itself and derail perfectly good threads making it seem like an 'open thread'.

Want to move it to nonsense? That's ok, I guess, it still has entertainment value, but I'd rather those threads just be locked so they can fade into oblivion.

Glory's Sun 03-12-2010 05:18 AM

When the OP deletes a message.. there's no point in "mature" discourse at that point.

I see nothing wrong with having some fun. Just locking everything down and being all hardcore all the time is pure suck.

LoganSnake 03-12-2010 06:40 AM

Exactly. The only reason I became more active in this forum is because the "POST ON TOPIC OR ELSE!" ideology was mostly done away with and sticks came out of certain collective assholes.

If it comes back, meh, I guess I'll creep back into the shadows 'cause that shit wasn't fun.

LordEden 03-12-2010 07:17 AM

I mean we have seen threads die 6 posts in when the OP basically says "Well, these are all good ideas, but I'm going to do the most bonehead move possible, kthxbye." After that? Why talk to a brick wall when we can draw funny images on it and throw tomatoes at it.

It isn't like we are derailing serious conversations, most of the threads in question (posted by the randoms) are in T Life or T Sex and are inane conversations to begin with.

I haven't seen many threads locked here anyway, what's the point in locking it if we can just delete it. I mean how many times do we have to say "Banging your sister-in-law is bad", "If you are not comfortable with your bf pooing on you, then don't do it.", or "Being married doesn't mean she is required to give you a HJ/BJ everyday." It isn't like 90% of the random posters in there listen to anything anyone has to say.

I know IRL when the conversation dies, I make jokes. Why can't we do that here?

Redlemon 03-12-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2766555)
If anyone is going to post tits in a thread threadjackstyle, I nominate Redlemon or Bobby to do it.

Wait.... what?

Cynthetiq 03-12-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon (Post 2766724)
Wait.... what?

basically he called you the titty threadjack man.

Redlemon 03-12-2010 09:47 AM

Hmm. I've threadjacked, and I've posted nudity. I don't recall doing them simultaneously. I'll have to consider this further.

And it appears I've assisted in threadjacking this thread, which was not my intention.

LordEden 03-12-2010 09:53 AM

No no, I was referring to the fact that Woods threadjacked the "Fiancé Phone Habits (NSFW)" thread with ugly boobies. Redlemon posts really nice boobies (in an artisy-fartsy way) in threads. Therefor if anyone is going to posts boobies to derail a thread, I'd like them to be NICE boobies.

Just making a point.... I like nice boobies.

Shadowex3 03-12-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hektore (Post 2766509)
I'm not quite sure what you all mean by hardcore moderation (I think I know what you mean) but I can get on board with cracking down on some of the one-liners as well as just locking threads when they disintegrate.

Probably they mean "hardcore" as in "arbitrary and capricious" like you get on Facepunch or (at least politically) Cybernations. Imagine the unholy union of a random number generator, the principal of a Zero Tolerance school (linked for an example), and a grammar nazi.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2766735)
Just making a point.... I like nice boobies.

I'm pretty sure most of us do as well.

Plan9 03-12-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordEden (Post 2766700)
I mean we have seen threads die 6 posts in when the OP basically says "Well, these are all good ideas, but I'm going to do the most bonehead move possible, kthxbye." After that? Why talk to a brick wall when we can draw funny images on it and throw tomatoes at it.

It isn't like we are derailing serious conversations, most of the threads in question (posted by the randoms) are in T Life or T Sex and are inane conversations to begin with.

I haven't seen many threads locked here anyway, what's the point in locking it if we can just delete it. I mean how many times do we have to say "Banging your sister-in-law is bad", "If you are not comfortable with your bf pooing on you, then don't do it.", or "Being married doesn't mean she is required to give you a HJ/BJ everyday." It isn't like 90% of the random posters in there listen to anything anyone has to say.

I know IRL when the conversation dies, I make jokes. Why can't we do that here?

And this has been another episode of Lord Eden's Moments of Wisdom.

One-liner'd!

...

Did he really write that? Anyway... I concur wholeheartedly. I think the magic of TFP is that real The More You Know (TM) answers abound as much as witty quips and random titty shots. I'm probably one of the more guilty one-liner idjits on the board, but I'd like to think that I inject a little useful material here and there to warrant sticking around. "Hardcore moderation," as far as I understand it, would force those of us free spirits to be far more... uh... concise... with our posts (not necessarily a bad thing on the face) but will definitely serve to step on the collective dick of TFP's snarky humor.

The_Jazz 03-12-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowex3 (Post 2766744)
Probably they mean "hardcore" as in "arbitrary and capricious" like you get on Facepunch or (at least politically) Cybernations. Imagine the unholy union of a random number generator, the principal of a Zero Tolerance school (linked for an example), and a grammar nazi.

No.

What's meant is that we no longer tolerate one-line responses or thread derailment. The staff is not "arbitrary and capricious". We do not edit or punish for political views. I think our rules are clear and easily understood.

That said, I'm entirely for raising the bar for the definition of an acceptable conversation around here. I've certainly been responsible for more than my fair share of some of the dumbing down here, but I'm trying to do better.

---------- Post added at 12:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 PM ----------

And Plan9, you know I like a joke as much (or more than) the next guy. Being funny won't ever go out of style here. Being funny to the point of derailing the conversation, though, that's something different.


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