What's your dumbbell weight? How many pullups can you do? What are you squatting?

I want to know what I'm up against before I join in.

I like that we can have fun in a thread that's all about our inadequacies, whether they are being fat, or being too dumb to get this thread. Throw the dumb fatties in a cage match, see who comes out alive.

I never meant to imply fat = unhealthy.
It just seemed the OP's description of fat people were people with lard coming out of their ears, shuffling about while letting the couch take care of the gravity issue.
My contention was, I'm throwing some gross stuff down my mouth, way too much liquor on a all-too-regular basis, putting a blanket of disgusting smoke residue on my lungs and throat. Hell, some days I don't shower. Yet I'm underweight, but I'm probably one of the least healthy people I know. I ache, I don't sleep, I self medicate constantly, but fat has nothing to do with it.
I know plenty of overweight people who'll cook themselves a healthy meal, and walk to work everyday, and not eat nearly as much as me.

Fat people take enough crap, by being fat, everyday; they don't need all the wrongs of the world put on their back. They're carrying enough already.

@ the risk of being redundant:

I'm skinny & unhealthy. I might not spend enough on food to carry my own weight, but my compassion is way too heavy for my soul to bear though it feels like a froth. Eye candy is a lot less fattening.

about a decade ago, i weighed about 500 lbs.
i lost around 300 of them.

i take no particular sense of validation from having lost weight, and i don't imagine that what i did is representative of anything. i didn't set out to do it, i just changed by diet. i cut out processed foods entirely. i stopped eating what i had always eaten under the impression that it was healthy for me. i had fucked up information and made the best decisions i could based on that fucked up information.

so you cannot tell me there's no social dimension to this general problem of obesity, and you cannot tell me that a big part of it is the subordination of food production to the logic of capitalism, advanced capitalism in particular. to my mind, to not see that is to not see anything at all.


the way i see it, all this moralizing blah blah blah about weight is meaningless. less than that. it's nothing at all: just a kind of gas that gets expended.

but i remember how heavy people are treated because for a long time i was there. i remember. o yes i do.
sometimes i think that people are fucking stupid and nowhere is that more obvious than in cases that involve factors like weight, relative to which there's no particular social sanction for saying pretty much whatever.
but mostly i think that people get alot of stupid information and they work with the information they have and i there's an underlying problem it's the low quality of information. you'd think that wouldn't be a problem in a democratic system. but we don't live in one. look around.

and sometimes because i remember, i get offended by some of the results of what i persist in thinking are reasonable people who work with fucked up information and don't see that it is fucked up manage to say when they direct what they take for their attention to the question of other people's weight.

but i didnt get offended by this thread.
i didn't get offended because it's just that stupid.

it's hard to know where to start.
it's less hard to know that it's not worth the bother.

I'm in!

Your post is a gem.

[potshot] Is this some sort of attempt to equate the villainization of fat people (blaming them for all, or even some, of the ills of the world, and the subsequent efforts to 'eliminate' them) to the tactics used by Hitler in Nazi Germany against the Jews? [/potshot]

perhaps jetee understood because he read a few posts ago in my little blog thingy.

yeah, i was trolling. i was giving the people who get upset about every little goddamn thing something to really get upset about.

i wanted to see who would actually take those lame ass arguments seriously, because it tells something about a human.

some of you who i thought would know me a bit better didn't let me down. thanks.

Like that, based on the history you have here, we're willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when it appears that you're trolling, but may have a point that you're simply failing to express?

Squeeb, brother, don't do this to me.

See... all of my arguments are lame ass.

You're setting the bar too high for guys like me.

ok, didn't think of it that way, and for that i apologize.

i did figure, based off whatever history i have here, that if i said something as ludicrous as "fat people are ruining the world" it would be suspicious at best.

And I think that I don't anticipate such juvenile shit around these parts. If you post something like this I'm going to assume as said that you're simply expressing your opinion in a poor fashion; the alternative is to assume that you're playing some sophomoric game, and I expect better from you and all of our members.

Your second post made your intentions quite obvious. At that point I chose to ignore it. There's still the potential for an interesting discussion here, although my hopes of it coming out are fading fast.

So, basically, this frivolous thread wasn't for my personal amusement?

*wonders if someone has been listening to Three Day's Grace "Animal" on repeat*

I thought you'd already figured out that this whole forum is for your personal amusement.

Solipsist'd!

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Emo kids are ruining the world.

lol, I called you on the troll and got a PM not to call people on trolling.

so perhaps this post won't get deleted this time!

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