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Old 07-10-2009, 05:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First Live Births from Artificial Sperm (mice) - Implications and Considerations

This was in the news yesterday and I found it very interesting. It brings up all sorts of questions and thoughts.

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I think this is a great development in terms of treating and understanding infertility. I have always found it concerning to hear reports about how infertility is on the rise, and wondered why that was. It doesn't seem to be stemming from a natural process. Sometimes I wonder whether it is nature telling us we need to slow down though. But, I can see how this is good for couples facing this reality.

It also makes me think about women who want to have kids but no guy to do it with. I'd say the majority of women wanting to have a child would rather have a partner who will stick around and be the child's father, but that failing, this seems like a good alternative. Uncomplicated. And like the article says, it's like mating with yourself. Easy. I like this option.

Of course the first reaction to this piece of news, in a workplace full of women, is 'great, soon we won't need men for anything anymore, not even to make babies!'. Haha laughs all around. But of course, this is said in jest. Men could say the same back - the article mentions that artificial eggs can also be produced. It's the final frontier.

It got me thinking. I love men. I would not want to do without them. I have only been romantically involved with a few, and as for male friends, there's only a few. But I love men. The thought of not having them in my life makes me sad.

So apart from finding this an interesting article, a worthy and commendable scientific development, it also makes me think about why I like men, despite all these possibilities of doing without them.

Women are always complaining about men. About their men more specifically also. About how the world would be better if we could live without them. But the reality is, we love men. Same as they love us. Would I want a man who is more like a woman, just because sometimes we don't get along? No. I'm sure most guys would say the same of the opposite situation. We drive each other nuts, in good, and in bad ways.

If you remove the necessity factor, what is left? I like how men are different from women, in many things. I like how they are soft and rough simultaneously, both physically and mentally. I like how a conversation with a man is different, because they think of things in a way most women don't. I like how they can give you a look and you know what you mean to them. I like how they are fascinated with a woman's body. I like being fascinated with their body. Is it entirely chemical? I'd like to think not. I like how I can connect with a man in a way I have never connected with a girlfriend, though I may love them equally.

I wonder what homossexuals would have to say about all this?

Just some thoughts I wanted to throw out there.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am a bit concerned that the offspring had a shorter lifespan. There are definitely a lot of kinks to work out before this process can ethically be carried out on humans. I am excited by the idea. I am curious why, though, they jump to the conclusion that stem cells gathered from an adult could be functional when this uses embryonic stem cells. I'm not convinced that this will be a practical alternative for infertile or homosexual couples anytime soon.

I wouldn't want to limit the gene pool by attempting to make sperm from my genetic material. For the women who claim they now don't need men, I don't see why they're not just going to a sperm bank for a less expensive procedure.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am a bit concerned that the offspring had a shorter lifespan. There are definitely a lot of kinks to work out before this process can ethically be carried out on humans.
Now I am a concerned that the offspring of these "artificial Sperm" would have any defects, it is way to soon to tell. We probably wont see the outcome in our life time, so don't worry about not having men we still need them. I wish they would work more on saving the people that are alive with stem cell research. They could save thousands of people from horrible deaths.

But all in all I think this is great. It would mean that couples with infertility issues have more options. And it also means that we can save animals that are becoming extinct.

So how would it actually work, would the baby get all the mothers genetics. Or could we make "smart sperm". Maybe even wipe out genetic problems before the baby is born.

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