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Old 06-29-2009, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which celebrity death do you think is the most tragic?

Which celebrity death do you think is the most tragic?

many come to mind, kurt cobain, diana, heath ledger, MJ, tupac etc etc etc. but which one do you think was a real tragedy? a waste of life, that could have done so much more, but left us before they should have?

for me its bruce lee. he was a legend. he had so much to offer, but was atken away so soon. i cant only imagine what he could have become.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Freddie Mercury.

James Dean

Marilyn Monroe
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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honestly, i'd say heath ledger. just because of his performance in Batman.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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All the musical ones, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Buddy Holly, Randy Rhoades.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Bruce Lee, Steve Irwin, Freddie Mercury
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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John Keats, poet of the second Romantic Age (1795 - 1821)

He died of TB at the tender age of 26.

If you look at his canon of poetry and gauge its depth, quality, and temper that with its volume, it's hard not to think, "Damn it. He produced that within a span of 6 or 7 years, and all by his mid-twenties?!"

I cannot even fathom what he would have produced had he fully developed his powers.

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't really consider the death of a celebrity in the traditional sense any more of a tragedy than the death of anyone else. They merely entertain us. Einstein enlightened us.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Cliff Burton...

Metallica might still make good music if he were still around.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'll second:

- Bruce Lee (martial arts god)
- James Dean (saw Rebel and wanted so much more)
- Cliff Burton of Metallica (never seen a bassist like him since)
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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brandon lee and diana because of the circumstances beyond their control.
i'll have to give it more thought for some of the others, but those two jumped into my head as soon as i read the title.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Mozart (He was only 35). And Diana, because her death was so unexpected and mindboggling. Both she had Mozart had years of doing wonderful things remaining in their lives.

Present day musicians and actors tend to be kind of carefree and haphazard in their lifestyles, so their deaths don't shock me quite as much. However, Michael and Elvis were legends so they are not even in the same category as other musicians.

For those of you familiar with his work, Ritchie Valens was only 17.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Jim Henson.
Douglas Adams.

They both had a lot left to create.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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John Kennedy Toole
John O'Brien
Jean-Michel Basquiat
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Adding to the list:

Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jon Bonham
Natalie Wood
River Phoenix
Oscar Wilde
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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John Lennon
Freddie Mercury
Bon Scott
Keith Moon

Can't believe Keith Richards out lived these guys.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Marvin Gaye
Bill Hicks
Hank Williams
Sam Cooke
Otis Redding
Buddy Holly
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Freddie Mercury.

James Dean

Marilyn Monroe
with the addition of Kurt Kobain, Lennon, Keats, Heath Ledger, John Ritter.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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oh, and JFK & RFK & MLK and Harvey Milk
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:25 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Jim Henson.
Douglas Adams.

They both had a lot left to create.

Seconded.

Also I'd like to second Lennon and Kurt.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Everyone has listed most of the people I would have put on here except one:

Robert Jordan

I can't describe how soul-crushing it was to hear of his death (I know he was old but still), say what you will about his series, I love them. I'll never get to know how the series will end (Ghost writer blah blah blah).
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Musically I would say Jimi Hendrix and John Bonham. Hendrix was just beginning to evolve and who knows where Bonham would have taken Zeppelin into the 80's.

Going back I would say bluesman Robert Johnson and jazz virtuoso Charlie Christian who died at 26.

Lenny Breau also. Can't imagine how more out there he could get though. Maybe so out that he would be in.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i do not want to defeat the purpose of the thread. i think every human's death is equally tragic, no one's death is more tragic than another's.

if i have to choose someone, i say salvador dali, hunter s thompson, and freddy mercury.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I miss all of these people. Tragedies = JFK, his bro, and Lennon. All shot by their own kind.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I miss all of these people. Tragedies = JFK, his bro, and Lennon. All shot by their own kind.
What does this mean, "shot by their own kind"?

Are you referring to the state of humanity and those few that fail to realize it fully? I just have a difficult time envisioning anything else but a human shooting another human. (A rogue and genetically-enhanced laboratory orangutan aside, but even so, where would it obtain the pistol...)
It truly strikes harder and bears more burden on the heart to realize the tragic end of anyone who falls at the hands of their own blood. And given the celebrity and status of a certain musician, it can haunt people for years how such a fatal circumstance came into being.


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Gaye was plagued by health problems and frequent bouts with depression, propelled further by incessant fears over an attempt on his life. He threatened to commit suicide several times after bitter arguments with his father. On April 1, 1984, Gaye's father fatally shot him after an argument that started after his parents squabbled over misplaced business documents. Gaye attempted to intervene, and was killed by his father using a gun he had given him four months before.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:36 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Heath Ledger is definitely the biggest one in recent memory.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The most tragic??

Easy,

Phil Hartman
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What does this mean, "shot by their own kind"? Are you referring to the state of humanity and those few that fail to realize it fully? I just have a difficult time envisioning anything else but a human shooting another human.
I thought about what I wrote as I was writing it, thinking something similar. A little nausea sets in when I think of a human gunning down another human. Death because of illness, addiction, accidents, even suicide doesnt strike quite the same feel for me, although most any death in itself is tragic.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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When I read the thread title I thought immediately of my hero Joan of Arc (1412 - 1431) who was burned at the stake at the age of 19. She was completely impossible, and she transformed the world. Her work and her example arguably allowed the formation of the modern state of France (through the creation of the spirit of "nationhood"), and which allowed Europe to coalesce around this strong core of France. A less ravaged and more defined Europe in turn lead to the Renaissance. Imagine what Joan of Arc could have accomplished had she been allowed some more time.

A man I wished had been given 20 more years is Genghis Khan (1162 - 1227) who died after falling from a horse during a hunt. Yes, he lived till the age of 65, and yes part of his empire lasted (at least in name) until the final desolution of the Golden Horde through annexation by Catherine the Great of Russia in 1768 (540 years after his death). But he could have strengthened and guided what he had created in a way that his sons were incapable of, and had he lived he would have done a better job of arranging his succession. I strongly recommend the book Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World by Jack Weatherford. A truly amazing man of remarkable genius and insight.

Tom Thompson (1877 - 1917) was the founder of The Group of Seven artists in Canada. He was a brilliant and gifted artist who died under mysterious circumstances. His gifts and his vision were a real loss.

The recent loss of Freddie Mercury and John Lennon are about the most tragic of recent celebrities that come to mind.
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John Keats, poet of the second Romantic Age (1795 - 1821)

He died of TB at the tender age of 26.

If you look at his canon of poetry and gauge its depth, quality, and temper that with its volume, it's hard not to think, "Damn it. He produced that within a span of 6 or 7 years, and all by his mid-twenties?!"

I cannot even fathom what he would have produce had he fully developed his powers.

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Every time I come across Mary Wollstonecraft's works I wonder what else she would have produced had she lived longer.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:48 AM   #37 (permalink)
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brandon lee and diana because of the circumstances beyond their control.
i'll have to give it more thought for some of the others, but those two jumped into my head as soon as i read the title.

i agree
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The most tragic??

Easy,

Phil Hartman
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Damn I forgot Phil Hartman. The Simpsons just isn't the same without Troy McClure, who you may recognize from such...

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