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Old 07-16-2009, 01:55 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Jinn has said it best. Advice, when not asked for, is usually rejected. It also sets up a block to any further communication.

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Old 07-17-2009, 05:06 AM   #42 (permalink)
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My boss insists that the moon landings were faked, and any evidence provided to support the existence of the Apollo programme causes him to say that the evidence of success is just as fake as the landings.

I'm still not totally sure whether he believes this, or just says it to wind me up.
Why does it wind you up? Honestly any evidence I've seen "could" have been faked, so what? I wasn't there and don't know anyone who was, but my parents watched the tube and believed that what they saw happened. People often believe things that are even more glaringly wrong than that the moon landings were a hoax, just take a breath and laugh it off.

There's a saying about arguing with an idiot and one about wrestling a pig, and they both seem to apply.

Squeeb, could your friend just be trying to push your buttons? I am quite often guilty of feigned ignorance to do the very same thing.
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Six percent of Americans think the moon landing was a hoax.
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:51 AM   #44 (permalink)
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My boss insists that the moon landings were faked, and any evidence provided to support the existence of the Apollo programme causes him to say that the evidence of success is just as fake as the landings.

I'm still not totally sure whether he believes this, or just says it to wind me up.
Well, it's safe to say he'll never have the satisfaction of knowing if the first landing was real or not.

(I still can't post links - Google NASA loses moon landing video, hollywood hired to restore it)


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By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein, Ap Science Writer – Thu Jul 16, 7:11 pm ET

WASHINGTON – NASA could put a man on the moon but didn't have the sense to keep the original video of the live TV transmission.

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Old 07-25-2009, 07:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:44 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Another fact that half of Americans still don't accept: Evolution. Not only is denying evolution contradicting hundreds of years of scientific research on the subject, it's denying genetics.
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Six percent of Americans think the moon landing was a hoax.
That comes out to almost 20 million people. They left mirrors up there so we could use laser ranging to find out just how far away it is, and the measurements are down to an accuracy of within a centimeter.

On the subject, this is a photo of the Apollo 14 landing site taken by the LRO to help calibrate the cameras on its way to orbit

On the right side, there are two deep craters and a shallower one. Above and to the left of the shallower one is a white spot with a shadow pointing to the right. That's the lander. There are lines slightly darker than the surrounding soil going off to the left of those. Those are footprints. The white dot above the left end of them is a set of instruments, including some of the aforementioned mirrors.
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Old 07-27-2009, 02:30 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Ugh! I had one of these moments today. I was volunteering for something at church, and this grandma holding her grandbaby says to me something about how the baby recognizes herself in the mirror, and how she loves that babies in general recognize themselves in the mirror. I said, actually, they think it's another baby, as infants have little theory of mind; theory of mind (knowledge of the self as separate from others, knowledge of the internal self) does not develop until after age 2. Grandma then informs that I am wrong and that babies recognize themselves in the mirror when they're quite young--that I would be surprised. I said, no, that's just not true, and I know it isn't true because I am a human development major; I spend most of my time studying this stuff, and theory of mind is one of my pet interests. WELL, she says, I was a NURSE and have YEARS of parenting experience. At that point, we agreed to disagree, because I was not going to give into her as an Authority. One of my friends was standing next to me the entire time this was going on, and she was biting back the laughter as Grandma walked away, because it was obvious to her who was right.

Ugh. Idiots.
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Old 07-27-2009, 03:55 PM   #48 (permalink)
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^^ Yeah, I would have laughed too. I mean, I have NEVER been in a position I need to convince someone against their beliefs. Just what satisfaction does it have? I mean, the more stupid people the more likely they will be hit by a bus the less people I have winning my lottery.

You gotta think like this snowy.
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Old 07-27-2009, 04:27 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I used to get worked up over people like this. But now I just let it go. I have more important things to spend my energy on that this sort of stuff.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:22 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Ugh! I had one of these moments today. I was volunteering for something at church, and this grandma holding her grandbaby says to me something about how the baby recognizes herself in the mirror, and how she loves that babies in general recognize themselves in the mirror. I said, actually, they think it's another baby, as infants have little theory of mind; theory of mind (knowledge of the self as separate from others, knowledge of the internal self) does not develop until after age 2. Grandma then informs that I am wrong and that babies recognize themselves in the mirror when they're quite young--that I would be surprised. I said, no, that's just not true, and I know it isn't true because I am a human development major; I spend most of my time studying this stuff, and theory of mind is one of my pet interests. WELL, she says, I was a NURSE and have YEARS of parenting experience. At that point, we agreed to disagree, because I was not going to give into her as an Authority. One of my friends was standing next to me the entire time this was going on, and she was biting back the laughter as Grandma walked away, because it was obvious to her who was right.

Ugh. Idiots.
I'm interested in what evidence you have for this because I have seen babies of a year old or less react very differently to themselves in the mirror as opposed to other children in the mirror. Care to share?
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:29 AM   #51 (permalink)
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don't waste your breath , life's to short to waste time trying to enlighten any "close-minded" person . . . and infuriating as HELL !
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:32 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Ugh! I had one of these moments today. I was volunteering for something at church, and this grandma holding her grandbaby says to me something about how the baby recognizes herself in the mirror, and how she loves that babies in general recognize themselves in the mirror. I said, actually, they think it's another baby, as infants have little theory of mind; theory of mind (knowledge of the self as separate from others, knowledge of the internal self) does not develop until after age 2. Grandma then informs that I am wrong and that babies recognize themselves in the mirror when they're quite young--that I would be surprised. I said, no, that's just not true, and I know it isn't true because I am a human development major; I spend most of my time studying this stuff, and theory of mind is one of my pet interests. WELL, she says, I was a NURSE and have YEARS of parenting experience. At that point, we agreed to disagree, because I was not going to give into her as an Authority. One of my friends was standing next to me the entire time this was going on, and she was biting back the laughter as Grandma walked away, because it was obvious to her who was right.

Ugh. Idiots.
My mom recently tried to tell me that her coworker's baby has a personality based on ultrasounds. The coworker is 5 months pregnant. Of course, as everything does with her, it got into a lecture of the horrors of abortion and that in utero movements are definitely more than just reflexes. Sorry, mom, it's you versus the medical community once again.
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