Speaking of Office Space, and beating dead horses...

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Recidivism rates are high, but that's for another discussion. No matter how many times someone is arrested or convicted (and it seems that the distinction is blurred in a lot of peoples' minds,) individuals have the same rights and should be treated accordingly. The show throws out presumption of innocence and dehumanizes alleged criminals with no due process while officers show off their authority and flaunt their power for the camera.

They would want me on the jury. I don't like the police as much as the next guy, but I have no problem with harsh punishment for stupid criminals. If our judicial system isn't going to do it (except for the anal rape in prison (if that happens)), well I have no problem with a little 'physical force' during the arrest.

But the people here would probably want these people to get off because the police improperly arrested them.

actually, I don't think anyone is arguing that the perps in these cases shouldn't be put away. Most people are just arguing that cops need to quit acting like the enforcers and final say so of the law. Again, it's not up to cops to place judgement on anyone..that's up to the court system and a jury of their peers.

to say that you know what you're going to do on a jury before any real case is presented, is just one reason why the judicial system is fucked up. You don't have a problem with what these cops did because you don't think it's wrong for them to beat a perp when he's unconscious? seriously? What right does a cop have to do that? Please explain that one to me.

I think that most people are getting hung up on the fact that these people had prior convictions, are gangbangers etc etc etc, instead of looking at the real picture here. Cops are abusing their power and most people don't care because they are too blind to see the whole picture or they are scared of the cops because the cops have done a good job of making people believe that they *are* the law.

It should be pointed out that cops don't just violate the civil rights of gangbangers. They routinely arrest journalists, illegally, (as in, federal crime) because they don't want us there. In other words, some cops truly believe that the badge makes them the law, rather than just the enforcer of it. They get the idea that whatever they think should happen, now legally Must happen, or it's a crime.

Allowing them to get away with that thinking, whether it be arresting journalists (while not arresting anyone in the crowd who doesn't have a TV camera) or kicking defenseless suspects in the head, will only encourage more of that thinking.

I've read alot of fucked up things from people on this board before, but unless you didn't actually watch that video and read the article, you take the cake. Do you realize that that particular Alabama driver was unconcious after being thrown from the vehicle when those 5 jack booted thugs jumped and beat on him? what if he'd been critically injured from the crash and all those blows caused paralysis or death? would a death sentence have been warranted by you? The support these JBTs receive from the likes of you are why they can and do get away with the brutality they execute. It's completely sickening.