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The_Jazz · 04-15-2009, 10:40 AM

I've bolded the section of this story that made me actually laugh:

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NEW YORK – A clothing company known for its racy ads is fighting a $10 million lawsuit brought by Woody Allen, arguing that it can't have damaged his reputation by using his image because the film director has already ruined it himself.

The 73-year-old Allen started the fight against American Apparel Inc. when he sued the company last year for using his image on the company's billboards in Hollywood and New York and on a Web site.

Allen, who does not endorse products in the United States, said he had not authorized the displays, which the Los Angeles-based company said were up for only a week.

Now the company plans to make Allen's relationships to actress Mia Farrow and her adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn the focus of a trial scheduled to begin in federal court in Manhattan on May 18, according to the company's lawyer, Stuart Slotnick.

"Woody Allen expects $10 million for use of his image on billboards that were up and down in less than one week. I think Woody Allen overestimates the value of his image," Slotnick said.

"Certainly, our belief is that after the various sex scandals that Woody Allen has been associated with, corporate America's desire to have Woody Allen endorse their product is not what he may believe it is."

One billboard featured a frame from "Annie Hall," a film that won Allen a best-director Oscar. The image showed Allen dressed as a Hasidic Jew with a long beard and black hat and Yiddish text. The words "American Apparel" also were on the billboard.

Allen's lawsuit said the billboard falsely implied that Allen sponsored, endorsed or was associated with American Apparel.

Slotnick said it was not a cheap shot to bring up Allen's sex life in a lawsuit over the billboard and Internet ads.

"It's certainly relevant in assessing the value of an endorsement," he said, noting that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps lost endorsement power after a photograph surfaced of him using marijuana.

Farrow starred in several of Allen's movies during a relationship with the director that ended in 1992, when she discovered he was having an affair with her oldest adopted daughter, then 22. Allen married Soon-Yi Previn in 1997.

During a bitter custody fight, Farrow accused Allen of sexually abusing their adopted daughter Dylan, 7. Allen was exonerated of the abuse charges, but Farrow won sole custody of the children.

Leslee Dart, a spokeswoman for Allen, said Friday that she does not believe Allen wants to comment on the litigation at this point.

American Apparel is known for its provocative ads of scantily dressed young models in tight-fitting and sometimes see-through garments.

Allen testified at a December deposition that he considered the company's advertising to be "sleazy" and "infantile."

Lawyers for American Apparel have complained that Allen has refused to turn over much of the information they have demanded to prepare for trial.

Among their demands were documents concerning any endorsement requests that were withdrawn after the sex scandal with Farrow and Previn became public.

The documents defined sex scandal as "your relationship with Soon-Yi Previn including the discovery ... (of) nude pictures you took of Soon-Yi Previn."

The lawyers also requested documents concerning Allen's public image and reputation, including his contention during his deposition that he was a "special kind of entity" or a "special taste."

Allen's attorneys said the request for documents related to the sex scandal and custody battle were "vexatious, oppressive, harassing" and not relevant.

Slotnick said he could not discuss whether there were any settlement talks under way but he hinted that the company may be open to avoiding a trial.

"All I can say is that the company has apologized for the use of Mr. Allen's image, however brief. And the company apologized if they offended Mr. Allen's sensibilities," he said

American Apparel slams Woody Allen's sex life

Basically, American Apparel says that they can't do any harm to Allen's reputation because Allen trashed it himself a few years ago. Call it the "yeah, well you're a child molester" defense.

So, all of you wanna-be lawyers out there, what do you think? Do they have a chance in hell?

Plan9 · 04-15-2009, 10:53 AM

HAHAHA... yeah, that had me laughing too.

I think it could go either way, but I like their pitch. If anything, it may inspire some humility.

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Honestly, the Twinkie Defense is probably the best legal defense of all time.

Crack · 04-15-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crompsin

HAHAHA... yeah, that had me laughing too.

I think it could go either way, but I like their pitch. If anything, it may inspire some humility.

...

Honestly, the Twinkie Defense is probably the best legal defense of all time.

Let us not forget the "gay-panic" defense
Gay panic defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In the gay panic defense, the defendant claims that he or she has been the object of romantic or sexual advances by the victim. The defendant finds the advances so offensive and frightening that it brings on a psychotic state characterized by unusual violence.

Plan9 · 04-15-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crack

Let us not forget the "gay-panic" defense
Gay panic defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was awesome. I'll have to use that sometime. *writes it down* But there is no besting the spongecake insanity plea!

My god, the things that cream-filled tube of goodness can do to people makes Scientology look like Oprah's book club!

Cynthetiq · 04-15-2009, 03:37 PM

if it goes to trial....

Woody Harrelson uses zombie defense - Lifeline Live - USATODAY.com

Charlatan · 04-15-2009, 03:47 PM

American Apparel has a sense of humour but they are in the wrong. You can't use a person's image in a commercial setting like that and not expect to compensate them.

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Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	HAHAHA... yeah, that had me laughing too. I think it could go either way, but I like their pitch. If anything, it may inspire some humility. ... Honestly, the Twinkie Defense is probably the best legal defense of all time. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 04-15-2009 at 10:56 AM..

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Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	if it goes to trial.... Woody Harrelson uses zombie defense - Lifeline Live - USATODAY.com __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

04-15-2009, 03:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	American Apparel has a sense of humour but they are in the wrong. You can't use a person's image in a commercial setting like that and not expect to compensate them. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke