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Old 04-01-2009, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's your "Dialect".....Canadians go elsewhere

......I don't have one....
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the topic, bobby. I was thinking this over some last week, and I have no idea what dialect (accent), if any, my voice conveys. I've moved around quite a bit since a small child, and I think there is a period within one's youth that they begin to notice the subtle nuances and pitch of certain regional dialects when learning how to speak, and a child's mind learns how to adapt to what they hear around them. Therefore, a French baby might have the familiar accent later in life, but not if the phantom baby relocated, at maybe four years of age to Hawaii. I don't have a real firm grasp on the intracies of accent development within the scope of anthropology.

That maybe why some born and raised in Morocco for, say a period of ten years, will still continue to display their regional accent, if hypothetically, they had moved to Brazil later in life and learned both English and Portuguese to assimilate.



I still maintain I don't have a verifiable accent, and I wonder if a recognized speech analyst would come to the same conclusion.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have the Californian accent. Though I do feel there are distinct differences between the speech patterns of the major cities within the state.

Oddly, my husband was raised in California as well. But he has a very different accent. All of his brothers share the same speech patterns, which are unique to their family alone. I have yet to come across anyone who speaks with a similar canter outside of his immediate family. It entails a hint of Inland Northern mingled with Eastern New England, but with all of the terms and slang one would find along the central coast of California.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have the Californian accent. Though I do feel there are distinct differences between the speech patterns of the major cities within the state.
me too, dude.....
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Western New England... whatever the hell that is.

Houstonians tell me that I talk "different", but not one of them has been able to tell me how/why.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My accent is fluid--get me around a bunch of Eastern Kentuckians, and I sound like I just came down off the mountain. Put me in a courtroom in Jefferson County (Louisville), and it gets flattened out considerably. None of this is consciously decided.

I sound much more Appalachian/"Southern" when I'm tired, mad, or drunk, or as I said, around people with similar accents. Long i's, dropped g's and all that. Also in certain social situations--if I'm hosting a party, I say things like, "Y'all come on in and get somethin' to eat." Not sure where that voice comes from, exactly. It's just my default setting in that sort of situation.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not all Canadians have the same accent or dialect if you will, there are different accents throughout the country and throughout each province, hell where I'm from someone from Renfrew has a different accent than someone 45 minutes away in Pembroke, or than someone across the river from Shawville, there may be the stereotypical 'Canadian accent', but that doesn't really represent the dialects or accents across the country.

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Old 04-01-2009, 06:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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so where does this thread leave people like me?
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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so where does this thread leave people like me?

In some sort of bizarre black hole. If I had to guess, you divided by zero at some point and that was the end result.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm probably mostly gulf southern... grew up in houston... but went to highschool in california and college in lubbock which would be southwestern...

I definitely say Y'all... but I dont really have a heavy southern drawl.
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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(Technically it's "Eho-rhi-ehos", but I've heard people on my Oriole Park tours wonder why we named our team after the cookies. Seriously.)
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Being from NJ, there are at least two distinct accents/dialects in this tiny state and I'm from one living in another.
South Jersey (we do NOT say 'southern NJ) is heavily influenced by Philadelphia, an area with an absolutely horrid accent; we don't say long O's like most people. "Stone" becomes "ste-own" with an exagerated long O. Words like fire, while, tire become 2 full syllable words : Fy-ehr, Why-ell, etc.
We don't say "like that", we say "ligat". We don't eat subs, we eat hoagies. We drink Coke, even if it's Pepsi. If someone asks us how far a place is, we talk in time. No one EVER quotes miles.
North Jersey gets its language nuances from New Yawk. Even when people are trying to be nice, they sound pissed off. They talk faster and sound tougher. North Jersey folk eat subs but they know what a hoagie is.

I go to Tennessee twice a year and while I don't really notice my friends southern (NC) accent, I start talking like her within minutes. Same on the phone. I use "y'all" all the time too.

One time in Gatlinburg, TN with friends from NC, I remarked about some pretty "stee-ones" and my friend said, "What'd you call those? They're ROCKS, not "stee-ones." I hate my accent...
My bosslady's, though, is worse. She's from Buffalo, NY. She uses this word "elsewise" all the time and drags out her short A's. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I guess South Western according to that. Lived in San Diego for most of my life. I've always wondered.. while I was living in Gulfport, Mississippi, did I ever have a Southern accent???
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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...and drags out her short A's. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
I have a family member who does that. Of all the sounds in the English language that you could drag out, why pick the most annoying?
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Never thought about my accent, but after reading what ngdawg wrote, I'll have to see where I fit, living in the northern/central part of New Jersey.
I do notice that newscasters seem to all sound like they are from the metropolitan area. Somehow they are trained to loose any accent they may have picked up from their hometown.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I definitely speak with the PacNW dialect. People from around here claim they have no dialect or accent, but they're wrong! People in the Pacific Northwest pronounce "for" as "fur". There are other things too, but most people here have been speaking that way for so long that they don't notice they have an accent.

I'd be interested to know what Chinook jargon loanwords they're talking about. I don't really see the PacNW dialect having a particular influence from California; I think the influence is more from Canada.

Where did you get this article, bobby?
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I guess I am in the Virginia Piedmont section, but most people say I don't sound like I'm from my hometown at all. Most of my close friends growing up were from PA/NY area so my accent is distorted by them as well. Right now if I go back to my hometown and talk to the natives they are like WTF is wrong with you.

I do still say ya'll and stuff like that though. 3 people at my current job say I sound like I'm from "out west" oddly enough.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I definitely speak with the PacNW dialect. People from around here claim they have no dialect or accent, but they're wrong! People in the Pacific Northwest pronounce "for" as "fur". There are other things too, but most people here have been speaking that way for so long that they don't notice they have an accent.

I'd be interested to know what Chinook jargon loanwords they're talking about. I don't really see the PacNW dialect having a particular influence from California; I think the influence is more from Canada.

Where did you get this article, bobby?
Sam Elliott was raised in Oregon-graduated highschool there with a friend of mine, but the friend's accent isn't nearly as heavy. Sometimes I wonder if it's voice that makes a regional accent/dialect more or less pronounced.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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As far as I know, I don't have an accent.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Which is nothing. So I make up my own. I've adopted pieces from across the country. It keeps people guessing.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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bobby gets awarded 100 internets for the correct use of Dialect vs Accent.

Dialect: Differences in how native speakers speak a language in different regions (Boston dialect, California dialect)
Accent: Differences in how non-native speakers pronounce words differently than native speakers, based on their native language (German accent, Italian accent, Arnold Schwarzenegger accent)

Also I would argue that the Southwest is new enough that we speak pretty close to the textbook 'correct' Standard American English...no extra vowels where they shouldn't be or extra/dropped consonants on either end of our words...at least in Arizona and NM, anyways. I can't speak for Texas.

Edit: Wikipedia confirms that there is no listing for an 'Arizona' dialect, even in the southwestern region: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...glish_language
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I can't quite read what it says. urtan, urtain, urtian???
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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lostgirl, I believe it says: San Francisco Urban.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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lostgirl, I believe it says: San Francisco Urban.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:14 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I and my Hubby have lived our whole lives in Michigan, half the suburbs of Detroit and the other half in West MI. I think that we and most everyone here sound like the "standard" movie actor or national TV anchor. The U.P. of MI is a different story, they (Youpers) sound more like the stereotypical Fargo accent (not quite though).

We have been together for 20 yrs. and yet DH still makes fun of me for the way I pronounce things. I say eggs and legs with a hard A, Aggs and lAgs (a very good childhood Canadian friend teased me for this and I gave it back to her on ut and abut). He says them with a soft A which to me sound like they are spelled but not what I grew up with.

I can't explain that, we grew up in the same area! It can only be influence from our parents. His grew up in Ohio (their parents too) and are a decade older than mine who grew up here but who's parent's were from Kentucky (Dad) and the Ukraine (Mom). The funny thing is, his Dad has always said words like video "vidga" and since my Dad has recently entered his 60's, he's slipping into pronouncing words very similar to that and the way my Grammpa used to. He never has before! Strange. Dialect's confuzzle me.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:47 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm in Snowy's neck of the woods. If yer ever in the area, I'll make a cup-u-coffee fur you. I spelled it the way I pronounce it. I never thought about it before, but I guess I pronounce 'your' as 'yer' , 'of' as 'u' , and 'for' as 'fur' (Snowy mentioned that one). And I'm in the Portland area.

Head over to North Eastern Oregon (still Pacific NW) and we have family members that sound like a cross between Texas and Kansas. And they pronounce 'no' as 'nah' , and 'going to' as 'go-nah' (as in 'gonna' ... I say 'gunna').
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:28 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I guess I would qualify at Coastal Southern having been raised in Florida. Florida is such a melting pot that no one dialect comes to dominate. I've been told by a number of people that I have no 'accent' at all... or that I sound like a Nightly News anchor.

I now live in Kentucky, and my wife says that she'll notice that I will put on a bit of Kentuckiana pronunciation in my speech. I'm not surprised that that might happen as I've noticed adopting certain phrases and tones from areas that I visit for a week or less. Traveling to Australia or England, I'll catch myself using vernacular speech after just a few days there. I usually try to stop myself from doing it, as I figure it might be offensive... like I was mocking their language. It's not meant that way at all. It is nearly involuntary.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:32 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I grew up in LA, so I relax back into a California dialect dude. Now I've spent almost 18 years in the NYC area, 5 living in the Lower East Side.

People have a very hard time picking out where I'm from by my vocal accent.
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I'm in Snowy's neck of the woods. If yer ever in the area, I'll make a cup-u-coffee fur you. I spelled it the way I pronounce it. I never thought about it before, but I guess I pronounce 'your' as 'yer' , 'of' as 'u' , and 'for' as 'fur' (Snowy mentioned that one). And I'm in the Portland area.

Head over to North Eastern Oregon (still Pacific NW) and we have family members that sound like a cross between Texas and Kansas. And they pronounce 'no' as 'nah' , and 'going to' as 'go-nah' (as in 'gonna' ... I say 'gunna').
I'd love to know how eastern KS and western MO acquired their twangs. I have a best friend in Mo and another in TN. When I got them talking on the phone, the MO one started to giggle and tell the other "You have an accent, how cute!" to which I replied, "So do you, silly!" But the MO one does say things like "Ayuh" and "Right on" which comes out "Rat own". Oddly enough, his wife, also an MO native, sounds more "Fargoan".
I say "Nah" as well-most New Jerseyans do. I think if you want to pin down an accent/dialect, ask the person to pronounce "Orange"-that word has more pronunciations than any, I think.
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I've lived on both coasts and a few stops in between. I also interviewed a professor who makes good change consulting moving picture entertainment on how various southern dialects are different. Gullah is more of a pidgin than a dialect, and it's fascinating.

Although that article puts it on the southern SC, GA, and northern FL shores, it's common up to the outer banks.

If we had any Emerald Coast TFPers here, they could confirm, "e speak true mout".
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I got the Philadelphia accent and plenty of people who talk weird from other parts of the U.S. have told me so.
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How many of you use the "needs fixed" construction?

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CHARLIE BERTHOUD MOVED to Pittsburgh five years ago, but he and his family are still having a bit of trouble with the local lingo.

"The words to be are eliminated from phrases on a regular basis," he reports in an e-mail. "The sink needs fixed. The lawn needs cut. Just last week, we got a notice from our son's school, saying that the kids' homework 'needs reviewed' by parents."   click to show 
I'm curious, because my SO uses this speech pattern despite the fact he's lived in the PacNW his entire life, and it's not at all common here.
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How many of yous use the "needs fixed" construction?



I'm curious, because my SO uses this speech pattern despite the fact he's lived in the PacNW his entire life, and it's not at all common here.

...excuse my Philly accent correction to your grammar
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I'm originally from California, but I have 4 years of New York sneaking into my tongue. I can't stand it when I hear myself talking like a New Yorker.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:06 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I have Coastal Southern (raised in FL), although now I'm living in CO, so we'll see where that takes me.
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I got the Philadelphia accent and plenty of people who talk weird from other parts of the U.S. have told me so.
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I'm curious, because my SO uses this speech pattern despite the fact he's lived in the PacNW his entire life, and it's not at all common here.
I hear this usage a lot in SE Michigan. I can't stand it! I never heard it at all until a few years ago, now it's pervasive! Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!
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