Telluride

For just 70 cents a day, less than the price of a cup of coffee, you can make sure that a Halx gets food, warm clothing, and a server for TFP. Won't you please donate? - shakran

Where do you live where coffee is only $.70 per cup? It's way more than that here!

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braisler

You're buying it in the wrong place. My hospital cafeteria sells coffee at 59 cents per cup. They are located right above a $tarbuck$ and recently added a BIG black and white sign that can be seen from the Starbucks line that says, "COFFEE 59 cents". I found it amusing, but as far as I can tell it hasn't moved the Starbucks drinkers to change their consumption habits.

Or Shakran may have been suggesting that the cost of the cup of coffee is for one that you brew yourself. Which is certainly less than $.70 unless you are using some pretty exotic beans.

Lastly, perhaps Shakran was trying to be light-hearted and funny, mocking the the Sally Struthers Feed the Children type of commercial.

Willravel

Maybe we need socialized coffee.

Fotzlid

Socialized coffee doesn't work. You'll end up waiting 2 weeks for a large with cream and sugar. Plus, do you really want the government telling you what type of coffee to drink?

dlish

i'd rather that than being coerced by society to drink starbucks. bring back communism! ok maybe not..but still...i refuse to drink anything at starbucks

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Telluride

Their Vanilla Bean Frappaccino things are good.

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The_Jazz

We had a little mod competition to see who could come up with the funniest tag line for the donation drive. Shakran's a great guy, but I'm pissed I didn't win by blaming all of you for TFP going away.

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silent_jay

Timmy's double double or nothing, tried a Starbucks in Ottawa once, ended up asking for a coffee flavoured coffee, the girl looked at me like I was retarded or something...... Oh yeah $1.45 for a large here, fuckin coffee prices always going up.....

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Cynthetiq

don't worry Jazz... there's still next month and then the following month, and so on and so on.

and coffee here is $.85 from the deli.

and it comes in the quintessential cup!

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kutulu

There was a 'goal' that was posted earlier, now that is gone. Is that based on the estimated annual cost divided by 12? What are the total costs for the site?

Glory's Sun

1 Billion Dollars.

silent_jay

Has the same effect on me as the for just penny's a day you can save this child, I generally change the channel, I don't know if the money's going to save said child, same thing I do here when I see the notice, I simply ignore it. I like this place, I really do, but not enough to give money to it, maybe a couple of years ago I would have when it was actually enjoyable, but not now that I'd rather just check out posts here and there and maybe make a comment if I feel like it.

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SecretMethod70

Reading comprehension lesson: he says 70 cents is less than the price of a cup of coffee

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Baraka_Guru

On the other hand, there are many things worth more than 70 cents.

"For just 70 cents a day, less than the price of a weather satellite, you can...."

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Xerxys

OMG, baraka

Unassailable logic!!!

SecretMethod70

Haha, this is true, but relatively speaking coffee is at least CLOSE to 70c, even if it's twice as much. (And I'll admit, I have no idea what coffee costs because I don't drink it.)

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Willravel

Man, Bradley Whitford really isn't aging well.

Charlatan

Hahahaha...

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Fremen

Is coffee still coffee if you have to put creamer and loads of sugar in it to enjoy it?
Otherwise, I don't drink it.
I do cook with it, though.

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JumpinJesus

Suddenly, this feels like church.

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Cynthetiq

If it was church it'd be up all the time. Post Vatican II there's been a demand for extreme donation begging to the point of crazy tithing.

I'm just trying to cover the expenses of the co located server which to answer someone else's question it is posted up on the donation bar at $200/month.

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Crack

you would say that.



I kid.

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shakran

How the hell did I miss this thread?

The line is a take off of Sally Struthers' annoying "Save the starving kiddies in Africa" commercials.

kutulu

What is with the aversion to disclosing the actual costs of running the site?

SecretMethod70

For one thing, if you paid any attention to stickies, site notices, or the giant red bar that was across the top of the homepage for a few days, you would already know the answer to your question. Sorry if we don't feel like repeating ourselves.

As for why there has been a historical aversion to it, it's because we don't like to feel like we're panhandling you for money. Think of it as part of the TFP experiment: can a site be run without assaulting you with advertisements and without asking you for money all the time? There's a simple "Donate now!" button at the top, and if you like the site and are able, then you should help out the community. In fact, Halx has tried so hard to keep money out of the TFP experience that he has frequently had to foot the bill himself, rather than ask everyone for money each month.

Unfortunately - and maybe this is partly due to the recession - we find ourselves needing to remind people a little more often now. So, you've got the notices at the top of the page and the monthly red bar measuring progress. Ideally, TFP is a place for users to come and generate discussion, not be asked for money all the time. But sometimes we reluctantly have to do what is necessary to keep the site going.

And to answer your question, just scroll up to Cynthetiq's post #23. You can see why we get annoyed at repeating ourselves when the answer gets posted in this very thread and is still apparently missed.

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The_Jazz

Wow, I have the opportunity to play "good cop" to Smeth but he totally took all the good stuff.

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spectre

To his credit, there's 5 stickies in each forum that, if printed would be like 30 pages each. Plus, I gave them to my lawyer and even he's confused.

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silent_jay

See now this is funny.......

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