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Rape Videogame Simulation: How is this worse than shooting to death hundreds?
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While don't find this game attractive in anyway and very repulsed by the very idea, I cannot help but think that the taboo here is not really much different than someone who goes around pretending to be a gangster capping people in the head (Grand Theft Auto III-IV) Or driving a car around the city trying to cause as much damage as possible to all property (Burnout)... at what point is simulation bad? I'm having a hard time understanding just how bad this is or different than being able to have kills and headshots. Yes, I can agree with everyone that it is rape, that it victimizes women, makes them powerless. But this is again, simulation. If you say that this is bad. How come murdering thousands by the uzi clip isn't just as bad? Is is just that the Governator made it ok with his puns and action hero movies of the 80s? Help me understand this better. Post your thoughts as you understand them. |
I tend to agree with you Cyn. There's really nothing about rape that is any worse than being a serial killer, yet GTA isn't pulled from (many) shelves.
They're both examples of video games letting people indulge in the most base of fantasies. Whether it's actually harmful or not is, I think, open to debate. Yes, you get the occasional kid who shoots up a school and immediately gets the latest shooter video game in trouble because of it. But if an adult plays the rape game, does it follow that he will then go out and rape some woman? What do you guys think. Personally, I think not. After all, I've played Deus Ex, but you don't see me shooting poisoned crossbow darts at people. |
I think it's disgusting and repulsive and I think most of the other video games where the major theme is thrill-crime brutality are disgusting and repulsive, as well.
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No, not to me it ain't..... this is worse than well.... everything I've seen so far. It's rape....
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Because we're all full of shit.
edit: You're all full of shit. I just pretend to be so you don't beat me up. |
Do you rape zombie mutant women in this game?
If you fail to meet your alotted rape quota in the set time do they rape you? Ick. |
This stuff makes me sick.
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I would like to try the game just to see what it was about, but even then, i just feel weird typing that. haha.
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I think it's a consent thing and a procedure thing.
Take most shooters/FPS. There is an understanding between the protagonist and the antagonist(s) that you are there to fight and shoot at each other. Even when you mow down hundreds, often they are the bad guys. It's also very easy for an in-game shooting to be very impersonal. You can kill someone from hundreds of meters away in a first-person perspective sometimes. Now say they are not the bad guys, like in Grand Theft Auto. You usually don't spend too long on them. Typically you'll shoot them fast or run them over quickly. I suppose you could if you wanted to, but you are not rewarded for this in the game as you are in Rapeplay. Also it sounds like the level of detail in the rapes is very high. This discussion could be likened to whether a Vietnam vet is as bad of a person as a serial rapist. Conventional morality would say he is not. |
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There's less of a reaction to GTA-type violence because it's so predominant in Hollywood entertainment. Lethal Weapon, The Godfather, Die Hard, Rambo, they all feature big guns and loud explosions, so we're used to it, and we're able to separate fantasy fiction from reality fiction, which as an unintended side effect desensitizes us from the latter. Rapes, on the other hand is not widely portrayed in Hollywood, and when it is, it often stirs controversy. In other words, Sex, okay. Violence, okay. Sex + violence, not okay. On a side note, based on the reviews, it sounds like your run-of-the-mill hentai game. |
I believe the violence of rape might be different than that in war. Rape is often meted out as punishment, ownership of another human being, debasing etc. Rape is a war crime. Rape is not perpetrated with the same intentions as most wars.
Think of your wife being raped, or think of yourself alone in a subway car being raped in the ass by thugs and beaten up. Think of them telling you they were going after your wife and children next. Think of this happening on just a regular work day, in your city, while you were minding your own business. Both war and rape are violence perpetrated against other humans. Both are horrific. One seems like it might be worse because it could take thousands or millions of lives. However, the other ruins lives in a different way, and both beget more violence. |
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Here's another article about the similar vein of torturing prisoners. The author is quick to point out the morality of it, and in fact thinks there should be more torture in video games to highlight it to make people think about it. Wouldn't or couldn't the rape game achieve the same thing? Quote:
But we wear ribbons, we write letters, what about simulation to see how it actually makes you feel to complete the act without harm or foul to any real life individual. Does it make you think more of your actions? Isn't that what simulation is supposed to do? If simulation can be used to enhance bad behavior can it not also help suppress bad behavior? |
I find interesting the differences between these responses and the ones in this thread. Is rape bad only when there are no tentacles involved?
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Since we've thoroughly played out all of the 31 Flavors of Shock in this era... only rape and torture are left for mass consumption.
... Great excesses. "When we sin, we sin real good." Anybody else smell the end of the Roman empire? |
I dont believe simulating violence leads to a more humane populace. On the other hand I dont really think we need the insipid Hello Kitty junk either.
Why bother? Neither are cool. |
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:( I don't think Hello Kitty really hurts anyone the way violence does. I've never really been okay with super-violent video games; this is definitely over the top. I think as aberkok suggested the major issue here is one of mutual consent. |
Maybe youre water bottle isnt cool for me, but you are!
Happy belated Valentine's Day, Snowy. (My earlier post is a little more thoughtful than #15, a little.) |
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I am not particularly a fan of the GTA-style/mow-'em-down 1st Person Shooter games, but I think that the violence, while bad enough, is nonetheless comparatively impersonal and comic-book-y. I wouldn't let my 10-year-old play it (if I had a 10-year-old), but I would probably shrug and sigh if my (hypothetical) 16-year-old was playing it. I tend to believe that, unless played to excess, and/or played too young, violent video games sublimate violent impulses more than they produce them. But a rape simulator is just sick. It's nothing but a practice session for creating stalking rapists and child molesters. Sexual violence is just not the same as non-sexual violence. It is personal, psychologically destructive, violating, in ways that-- although to some degree all those things are true for non-sexual violence-- non-sexual violence cannot compare. If I caught my hypothetical 10-year-old playing GTA, I'd give him a mild chewing out and ground them. If I caught him playing a rape simulator, I would give them a very serious talking-to about sexual violence, and arrange for them to meet a rape crisis counselor and a rape victim, to educate him about what sexual violence means. |
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So you'd not discuss and educate your 10 or 16 year old on sexual violence without this simulation coming into your world? Isn't it then a useful device in having you confront the discussion and actually have it with your hypothetical children to discuss the morality and the issues surrounding it? This is the desire of the author in the wired article about torture in World of Warcraft. |
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I will do my best to teach my kids about non-sexual violence, and preventing that also, but that's different. The problems most video-game playing kids have today is that they don't clearly understand the boundaries between the videogames and how the real world works: for example, they understand that in the real world, killing is wrong, but they don't get the permanence of death. But this rape game is not fictionalizing the subject, as if, for example, the virtual victims, once engaged in the sex, enjoy their violation. It specifically reproduces the fear and pain reactions of the victims, for the pleasure of the user. It doesn't merely blur the distinction between fantasy and reality, it actually promotes an unhealthy attitude, namely, that it is okay to take pleasure in hurting others, sexually. Sure, I understand that this is a virtual simulation. But it is clearly geared to preparing someone for the actual act. It acclimates the user to enjoying the suffering of others, it promotes a deeply unhealthy mindset. The fact that the "training victims" are not real, and thus there is no real suffering, is entirely irrelevant when compared to the future victims whose real suffering will be ignored. It's just sick. |
Yes its a lot worse.
Raping a child is far MORALLY worse than murder |
Maybe I should start playing video games again. I wasn't aware that this type of game existed. ;)
So if they make a video game where it's going to hookers, being a porn star, banging the easy girl at the bar, prom night, multiple girls, and other scenerios would it be ok? I would rather play that game than killing the same computer AI bot again. The graphics aren't bad, but need a little work. The plot needs a little toning down too, but I have no problem with a high-res graphic adult videogame. |
I don't think people need to simulate things to know they are bad or hurtful.
It seems to hearken back to this idea that people who stalk and rape are just like anyone else and are making choices to do so the same way people decide whether they want to make dinner or order pizza. It is a compulsion. And the fear and pain are part of the attraction. You're not going to waylay these impulses you are going to reinforce them if the game is played by someone with the capacity to do it. The game was created for shock value. Trying to put an educational slant on it is bullshit. Sorry, it just is. If you want to convince me differently, find me a journal article written by a psychologist who makes the claim that simulating brutal violence makes a person more sensitive to actual violence. Not something written by a journalist. ---------- Post added at 07:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 AM ---------- also, if these games were effectively working to making people more sensitive to the suffering of people at the hands of others...wouldn't they stop playing them? |
Murderous violence simulated as "entertainment" is bad enough.
The simulation of rape and torture (of any kind) crosses that threshold of having gone too far. These are things we need not simulate. The physical and psychological damage they can cause are well-documented. If you knew enough about this, you'd know they aren't fit for a context of entertainment. Most violent video games use violence as a means to vanquish. This is a reality of our human history, and so we revisit this theme, as we are curious about it, and it is also glorified--and, darkly, we can be entertained by it. However, to be entertained by a simulation of rape or torture (especially in a realistic representation) would be indicative of some psychological problem and/or a serious moral lapse. The function of violence in these two modes differs greatly from what we see in most games--and the two are somewhat related in a way, and they are quite different from the violence of vanquish and vengeance. This game is nothing short of deplorable, but I agree--it's meant for shock value. (As an aside: also realize it was created by a culture that sells used girls' underwear out of vending machines.) |
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This makes me feel sick, too. |
It reminds me of some people that are addicted to porn, who become bored with their
entry level porn, and need to up their fix quotient by viewing increasingly more bizarre forms of it, to reach the same arousal state. Perhaps the shoot'em up the bad guys/killing aliens...etc, doesn't satisfy the hunger for violence after awhile, so it's time for something stronger, more vile. |
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Rape is ALWAYS a hate crime. Furthermore the makers of this game, whoever is president of the comy that released it shoud do life. I am 100% serious. Any person who purchases this game is a child pornographer and should face the maximum penalty under the laws of their state. Their children should be taken away from them (for their own protection) and they should be added to the sex offender and marked for life as a dangerous pervert. The programmer of this game and the oublisher should be taken to the haugue and tried for outrages against international law. If Japan will not give them up then international agents should invade the territory of Japan and take them. This is an utter obscenity, it is a foul thing that is disgusting to all people. It is a humiliation upon Japan the nation and a disgrace upon humanity. There is no defence for this. I repeat - the responsible people should do life, and if Japan will not imprison them we should take them and put them in one of our prisons. Life, and no consideraton of parole for 25 years MINIMUM. edit . . . of course, if this whole story is satire - then consider me suckered in by it. |
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Under what grounds do you think the publisher should be prosecuted? The grounds that it offends you personally? If I make a painting of a girl getting raped, should I go to jail? What about if I write a story? Make a comic? Make a movie? Where do you draw the line here for your "jailed because of content of creative work" mandate? |
Good points twisted.
This is why I am not sure about how I feel about this. Where is the line drawn? I know the line is drawn on the action itself, but what about parody, simulation, art, writing, film? Why is one medium okay and not another? |
I think it comes down to intent.
There are things such as literature and film that address rape, even graphically, but it can be argued that these are representations for artistic purposes—critique, analysis, etc. However, in this case, what we have is: "Dude, you're the rapist! Go to it!" Do we think this is art here? |
I think it maybe a fair defense if presented in a court of law. I'm not the one who can think of the implications enough.
How is this different from a Choose Your Own Adventure or POV DVD where you can select your next action? |
I can't imagine how anyone could find this game enjoyable--or more accurately, how there would be enough people who would find this game enjoyable to make the product successful. I personally find it repugnant and beyond creepy....but, I'm nervous about banning speech or expression in the absence of direct threats or true victims. My only hope is is that some would-be rapist can get his jollies playing a game like this and decides not to look for a real victim.
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Rape is a central theme in pretty much 60-70% of all Japanese hentai games. Funny that they single this one out. There are literally hundreds of games released every year that focus on or feature rape. http://www.getchu.com/
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*sigh* murder may kill the person, but it doesn't leave them emotionally scared for life, terrified of most everyone.
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Just for the record, I don't purport that anyone who creates, purchases or plays these games should be arrested.
I do purport that they are assholes. And unfortunately that is still perfectly legal. How many people here are old enough to remember the MA gang rape that inspired the Jodie Foster movie The Accused? I remember it very vividly. I was 18 years old and I don't remember anyone having to actually see the rape to be horrified by it. |
I think capping people in the head is a lot better than raping them. That totally came out wrong. But, in a game, kids know death is a fact of life and because of that killing someone seems less harmful than raping someone. Rape can do more damage in the long run than murder, and though both are horrible things to begin with, murder is the lesser of the two evils imo.
I would rather murder a bad guy than rape them. Rape involves much more complex feelings against a person than murder and I don't want to teach my child those sort of complex feelings. I'd rather have him learn to shoot a duck than rape one. I don't think this post is going to end up sounding right. >_< |
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Has anyone looked into the rape crime rate in Japan? Has any Japanese rapists been interviewed to see if they had played this game? Or is there a whole other type of person who plays this game versus actually commits the crime in real life?
Is there anyway to modify the game to show (possible) rapists the harm they would cause and the impact on the victims life and their life? I'm not seeing how this video game is that different from watching a simulated rape video instead of playing the game? There are plenty of those videos on-line. |
Well, I think you are dealing with a cultural difference there and it wouldn't have made any difference if the moviegoers in Singapore saw the rape or not.
But what I am referring to is the real rape that occurred 5 or 6 years before the movie came out. It was huge news and was only recounted in a very limited fashion in newspapers and television news shows. I remember talking to people about it and how disturbing it was even though we didn't see pictures of it happening or even many details about the actual rape itself. Therefore, I don't believe that people are incapable of understanding the effect that violence and brutality have on others without seeing it. |
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I doubt that, but again, most of the times, the mind works to fill in the blanks and it is usually more exciting/titillating when there is less to see, read, or know. I know you're not eluding to the idea that culturally Singaporeans find rape "acceptable" in any fashion, deserved or not whereas Japanese seem to deem it okay in certain manners. |
Well, no I don't mean to allude that Singaporeans find rape to be acceptable, no. But I cannot imagine any scenario in which a woman would deserve to be raped so I attributed it, I suppose, to an ignorance of their mores concerning women and modesty.
And I don't know that it is the Japanese deem rape to be okay, obviously they deem simulations of it to be okay and that I disagree with. But like I said, I certainly don't think it should be illegal nor do I have a particular penchant for banning such things. Rather, I wish people wouldn't want to play them. I took exception to what I saw as an attempt to rationalize the presence of these themes in video games as being educational. I do not think they are educational and will refer back to my previous statement that if simulated behaviors like these acted upon people in that manner, then people wouldn't be playing them. And I have a distaste, in general, for the furtherance of the exploitation of cruelty and brutality that has been marching steadily forth since the release of the first Faces of Death videos...I've had this discussion around here before, I think. But I think it is absolutely related...and slowly working its way into the mainstream of entertainment. It bothers me, that's all. I see no good coming of it as I think, paradoxically, it distances people from suffering rather than making them closer to it. |
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I'm curious to know how people would compare this game to a rape fantasy. Is going through such a scenario in your head, or acting one out with your partner, comparable to playing a rapist in a video game? |
Well, of course, witnessing brutality first hand is a different experience. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it isn't necessary to witness it to understand it. And it's certainly not necessary to witness it as entertainment.
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Furthermore, any UK citizen who purchased this game should do five years. Cat 1 prison as well, no parole, and life on the sex offender's register. If they are a foriegn national they should be deported after their sentence has been served. |
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pornography simulating rape is illegal in my country and I hope it would be in any civilised state.
Anyone committing this crime (viewing this filth) should face the appropriate penalties. If anyone is producing such things in the UK then the book should be thrown at them. Life, and no chance of parole for 10 years, 3 to a cell in a Cat 1 prison. |
and that's why there are different countries in the world.. with different cultures and viewpoints...
since well, the UK doesn't lord over very much any longer. |
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There are however basic human standards of decency which all civilised nations support and must inforce to protect the innocent of corrupt states.
We intervened in Bosnia to stop innocents being killed, in Rwanda: we didnt stand back and say "well, its a matter for them" - the woman and children of Japan deserve protection. First pressure should be bought upon their government, but if the state utterly fails to protect its own citizens from rape and other dispicable crimes then the state has failed and must be replaced. In fact, I would be shocked if this kind of thing isnt illegal in Japan - I am still fairly sure now that this whole thing is a piece of satire poking fun at the image of games like GTA... it is simply too disgusting to be true. |
Well the UK did a crappy job when they had the middle east since well you know those honor killings are still going on.
So while you can take pride in Bosnia and Rwanda, the Crown has done nothing for what it was responsible for when it had it in respect to your women and children protection. Again, this is SIMULATION, there is no human being being hurt here. There isn't even a real human being doing the act. |
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Apparently my misdirect failed.
I wanted SOMEONE to approach this argument with the knowledge that there is an entire subsection of the game industry that relies on PEOPLE buying games that feature rape. We're not talking about one game, we're talking about a SHITLOAD of games produced every year for the past decade that feature rape (presented as a sexual stimulus) and a market that only encourages more. Everyone's busy weighing how bad rape is, but this is a cultural phenomenon. It doesn't matter how bad it is. A lot of people buy these games. What does this say? Millions of people are fucked up? Or does it say something else...? |
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...And so the de-evolution of man continues. How very sad and terribly sick. :no: Rape isn't a game in any form. Either is murder. These games are the reason 11 year old kids can find guns and kill adults sleeping in their beds. |
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I wonder if these stats are accurate. Japan is way down the list. * * * * * * And, Hal, I don't know enough about Japanese culture to comment much on what you want to know. All I know is that Japan seems to have a culture of sex that differs greatly from ours. The sexualization of youth goes even further there. |
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Are millions of people fucked up? I think that's safe to say. Yes, millions of people of are fucked up - not all of them with ready access to these games. Is everyone playing these games fucked up? No. Does the fact that not everyone playing them is fucked up mean anything significant to the argument that the games are psychologically questionable at best? No, it doesn't. |
If you ask me the whole thing is rather silly, Japanese have many MANY simulation sex, rape, prosititution, pedo, and even bestiality games, why the hell is this one getting so much publicity? I mean it was kinda funny knowing it was sold on Amazon which was a first, but there's so many of them out there and have been out there, now THIS one suddenly got people to open there eyes? It's a game for one, and if parents don't like they it's not like they're being forced to fucking buy it, it's like any other video game out there. Also it doesn't make sense why ebay now won't sell it either, they've sold shit like the countless times before if not WORSE, and either way what does it matter? The news gave it so much publicity that you going to be able to find it just somewhere and now many people are going to buy it JUST because they saw it on the news or since the news brought it up they're curious.
But let's get back to the point that IT'S A GAME, and MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN MADE BEFORE IT, and whether anal mothers like it or not, more is going to be made and people are going to buy it, hell maybe even there teenage kids. Doesn't mean there going to grow up and rape little kids and big tit women. Just stupid, we have bigger shit to worry about then a game involved anime girls being raped... |
The making of such games is an INTERNATIONAL crime
The purchase of such games is an INTERNATIONAL crime The way to resolve this disgraceful situation is to enforce the law |
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I don't think it's international crime, considering the japanese made it and was originally from there. Selling it to America is possibly YES, but that doesn't make sense either, how come they allow manga (japanese comic books) with rape in them sold in the U.S? Furthermore, how come they are allowed to have games were you can kill hookers and have sex with them in the U.S? Personally I say, let people buy it, just don't make such a fuss about it, it's like anything else, it's just a game, that's it, not a big deal at all. If it involved REAL PEOPLE GETTING RAPE... that's completely different. But there animated people, made with a tablet and japanese perverts, not real blood, sweat, and tears of real women being raped. For the most part people have judgement on what is right and wrong, even playing that game if they do. That's just my opinion. |
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Do people that play violent video games get tired of being able to easily kill the computer player? They get bored with the game eventually, don't they?
I'm wondering if the same thing would eventually apply to these types of games? Would the rape fetish be a phase that they go through? I used to have a fetish of being with 3 to 5 girls at the same time, but imagining the entire scenerio instead of just the good parts made me get over it. I'm wondering how much realism there is in this game? Would losing at this game make guys realize the negative aspects? Could guys get bored with this since they always win (or always lose)? There are actually quite a few adult games from Japan out there. I never knew they existed until now. |
Psst, Fuffy, yellow is generally reserved for official moderator comments. Just fyi.
Regarding the topic, it's not my place to determine what is or isn't in video games I don't buy. Sure, require parental permission for all games given a specifically serious adult rating, but that's it. If I don't have a right to say that Super Smash Bros. raped my childhood and should have never been made, then no one else has a right to determine that a sexually violent game shouldn't even be available. That said, Amazon has a right to determine what they do or don't sell. It would be wrong to disallow the game from being made, it's okay for suppliers to refuse to sell the game. |
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Yes, some people with violent tendencies play violent video games, but it's not why they're violent. Now, if Baraka's figures are accurate, and assuming that Japan is a nation with the highest (or one of the highest) presence of rape in their entertainment media (anime, manga, video games), if we go by your logic, why is Japan so low on that list? Here's why: video games, or books with controversial topics, or rock and roll, will not make your kids worship the devil, poison your pets, set his house on fire or shoot his dad with a gun. And this: "These games are the reason 11 year old kids can find guns and kill adults sleeping in their beds." I see this type of sentence all the time. There's two things wrong with it. One: A videogame will not teach your son how to find a hidden weapon, maybe unlock it, manipulate it, load it, remove the safety, aim it, all the while parents are sleeping right there. And if you notice that I mentioned unlocking, manipulating, loading(for most people), this is called responsible gun ownership. If you have a killing instrument AND children in the house, you need it stored safely, not out where your 11 year old can pick it up and start blazing Matrix style. What's next, lighters in your baby's crib?? The second thing, obviously, is parenting. Don't blame a video game, or TV, or whatever else for teaching your children the wrong things. If you look at games that involve killing, you'll notice an "M for Mature" on the box. Any responsible parent who wants to keep a responsible eye on what their 11 year old plays can look at the ESRB rating before buying it for their child, and keep an eye on their video game library, in case some dumb employee at Gamestop decided it was ok to sell GTA to an 11 yr old. I don't think parents are responsible for everything or should be, but they ARE able to monitor what kind of media their child watches, and if it's appropriate. If they can't, they need to get help. |
I don't have a problem with this particular game being bought sold or played, but I do think that it should have an ESRB rating of AO. Since the things that occur in video games are fantasy, rather than reality I don't really see any harm in adults engaging in such games. As to children it's the responsibility of the parents to oversee what their children are allowed to play or download.
It should not be banned for adult use simply because children may attempt to obtain said game or play said game. I don't; however, have a problem with Amazon not carrying the game, as a business decision, but I would strongly oppose any governmental prevention of the sale and distribution of said game to adults. I think that most adults can distinguish fantasy from reality, so I don't think we should be in the business of prohibiting video games, as far as adult use is concerned, based on social noms, or what we find to be offensive. If a person commits an actual crime (I'm thinking in terms of unlawful force, fraud, & theft in all it's forms against another person), then punish them for said crimes committed in accordinance with local/state/federal laws, but don't ban things simply because they're offensive to social norms (absent someone being victimized by such behaviour in and of itself). |
Oh no! Not another video game that features {insert naughty, sinful things here}! Think of the children!
Well, they're not thinking of the children, since this game isn't for them. Over half of the people who play video games are older than 33 years of age. What's the best part about have a target audience that old? They have their own money to buy video games. Kids only get a game on Christmas and Brithdays from their parents. Besides, video games are just form of media, such as tv shows, movies, books, and comics. Should Moi Lolita be banned from book stores and libraries since it's about a grown man lusting after a girl who's a minor? And what about The Tragety of Romeo and Juliet? Juliet was only fourteen when the story starts out. How old was Romeo? Now I'm not throwing our rape game up there with classic lit., that game should be classified with the rest of the rape porn out there. And it's from Japan of all places. They have a myth where the fisherman's wife was raped by sea creatures. Every country and culture handles their smut differently. In Japan, alot of porn is animated, since that form of media is more accepted than live action, according to my otaku friends. And despite Japan's low crime rate, rape porn is very popular. In the US, the crime rate is much higher. Even Michael Moore's documentry, Bowling for Columbine, couldn't find the answer to US' high crime rate. So protecting our children from violent or sexual media isn't the answer to prevent them from commiting violent crimes when they're older. Regarding the rape game mentioned here, it might not even be legal to own or view in the US, since there's a law against fictional depictions of minors in sexual acts. There is no such law in Japan, since their age of consent is lower than 18 years of age. File:Age of Consent.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
This is not just "naughtiness" - it is utter filth, and the interests of nobody are served by its production.
I am not in favour of banning pornography, but this is a pornographic representation of the rape of a child... It is unbelievable to me that this kind of paedophilia (the rape and torture of the "virgin schoolgirl" daughters) is defended as "free expression" or a bit "naughty" by any sane person. If this was sold on amazon then the authorities must go to them with a warrant and take down the details of every pervert who bought it and make sure each one of them does 5 years. Even if we say we cannot prosecute the criminals who made the game because they are protected by Japanese corruption (an argument I do not accept) any citizen of the UK who bought this game should be charged as a child pornographer. I would hope that the American public would adopt the same attitude towards any paedophiles and users of child pornography in the US. It is very important to understand and state again - that as disgusting as this "game" would be if only involving adults, it also encourages the pervert to act out the rape of children. |
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Wow. It makes me question a few things. Its weird how we dont mind blowing up things and gunning down hundreds of innocents on a video game. But somehow this is different. I wouldn't go for this sort of thing. It just seems sick. http://www.hostimagehere.info/imgs/P/N.gif
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Wayne,
Yes, paedophilia and child pornography are different to the representation of violence, gun play, murder, etc. A war film in which people are shot is different to disgusting child pornography. Playing the part of a gangster shooting people in GTA is different to playing the part of a child rapist in this revolting "game". I dont personally find that differentation "weird" or see any level of hypocrisy in it. Biznatch, Thats a view that the courts will need to take. It is very clearly in the public interest that the law enforcment agencies of the UK and USA (and any other country in which Amazon sold this game) get a Warrant and go to Amazon and get the names of everyone who bought this game. They should be arrested in very public way and questioned and investigated very strongly, and if there is a case they should answer it in a court of law. I think we also would accept that the kind of person who buys this "game" is far more likely to be involved in other offences in this area than a normal person. |
How can someone be arrested for something that there is no law against? You do realize there is no law against it? Or are you advocating the implementation of law on a whim?
I think these games are disgusting, too, but you're not being realistic. At all. |
I believe this can be defined as child pornography, and purchasing that is against the law in the US and UK
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I don't think it can be defined as child pornography, though. Please correct me if I am wrong, but there are not laws against drawn images of child pornography are there?
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I'm not an expert on it, but there certainly should be. I would be amazed if it wasnt against the law.
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