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biznatch 02-15-2009 11:18 PM

B all the way. I always change it if it's not B.
Oh, and I have yet to need to yank it with one hand. Sit down time usually leaves me all the time to use both.

Lasereth 02-16-2009 05:07 AM

Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

pig 02-16-2009 05:58 AM

Well, I must be Hurculean in my wrist strength or else the rest of TFP must have wrists made of glass. I've pulled off way more than I wanted on several occasions. In A, you can also use wall friction (depending on the holder, I suppose) to help grab the paper for increased tearing efficiency. I can't for the life of me see an advantage to B. I see some potential advantages to A, and none for B. Regardless, you swine can't use my restroom without some level of supervision.

Charlatan 02-16-2009 04:39 PM

People debate this?

I just use a box of tissues. They are softer and there is no need for debate.

Bear Cub 02-16-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2596055)
Well, I must be Hurculean in my wrist strength or else the rest of TFP must have wrists made of glass. I've pulled off way more than I wanted on several occasions. In A, you can also use wall friction (depending on the holder, I suppose) to help grab the paper for increased tearing efficiency. I can't for the life of me see an advantage to B. I see some potential advantages to A, and none for B. Regardless, you swine can't use my restroom without some level of supervision.

Those friction arguments can be made regardless of roll orientation, and so can all of the other "easier to tear nonsense."

I'm sorry, but A is NOT easier to tear than B based on physics. The tensile strength of the toilet paper does not vary with orientation, nor does the force you apply, the angle along the horizontal plane at which you tear, and the coefficient of friction on the roller remains the same. If anyone would care to draw up a free body diagram to prove otherwise, by all means do so. Until then, leave your false science out of this debate.
-----Added 16/2/2009 at 08 : 15 : 19-----
And for you religious types, God also favors the B orientation. Just think about all the B's. Bethlehem, Bible, Buttsex, Breasts, its all there, clear as day.

pig 02-16-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear Cub (Post 2596330)
Those friction arguments can be made regardless of roll orientation, and so can all of the other "easier to tear nonsense."

I'm sorry, but A is NOT easier to tear than B based on physics. The tensile strength of the toilet paper does not vary with orientation, nor does the force you apply, the angle along the horizontal plane at which you tear, and the coefficient of friction on the roller remains the same. If anyone would care to draw up a free body diagram to prove otherwise, by all means do so. Until then, leave your false science out of this debate.
-----Added 16/2/2009 at 08 : 15 : 19-----
And for you religious types, God also favors the B orientation. Just think about all the B's. Bethlehem, Bible, Buttsex, Breasts, its all there, clear as day.

Say Champ, I would have to beg to differ, but allow me to state a few assumptions up front. No offense to any who do not conform to these assumptions...

Super Critical Assumption Numero Uno: Said toilet paper tearer is not a midget.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Dos: All of the various properties of your favorite brand of (hopefully double ply, no lotion) toilet paper are indeed invariant on configuration.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Tres: I am not putting together a free-body diagram for this thing.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Cuatro: I keep my head as far from my own shit as possible.

Now, I would tend to think that if you're reasonably higher up than the toilet paper holder, you will tend to pull up on the paper. Especially if you want your nostrils as far from the detritus you just blew out of your colon. And I do. I'm not saying I can't tear it in B, of course I can. But the presence of the bar between the paper and the direction my hand is pulling the paper does in fact provide something of a pinch point, which can make it easier to tear the paper. In configuration B, it would require something like holding a pencil against the top of the roll at the point where you're tearing it. Similar to putting a ruler against a fold in a piece of paper when you're trying to tear a straight edge. Does that not make sense?

I'll give you that the friction thing might not make much difference. You might have a difference in leverage arms from the point of contact / rippage, but it's dependent on the technique.

Let's not forget Abraham, Absolution, Angels, Assfucking, Acrolytes, and Ask-Me-Before-You-Tell-Your-Parents...

filtherton 02-16-2009 07:33 PM

I'll agree with pig to the extent that the A position more readily allows one to stop the roll with the side of one's hand and tear with one's fingers, thus it facilitates the one handed tear. That being said, the A position is still an abomination before Jesus, Allah and Crom.

pig 02-16-2009 07:38 PM

et tu, filte?

grumpyolddude 02-16-2009 07:44 PM

As for me and my house, B.

little_tippler 02-17-2009 03:50 PM

It always annoys me to see A. I voted A by mistake too. Doh!

B, people, B. A makes NO sense.

Xerxys 01-04-2010 08:41 AM

The Toilet Paper Roll Poll

captaincanada84 01-07-2010 12:58 PM

I voted for A but really meant B, I looked at the graphic wrong.

LordEden 01-07-2010 01:10 PM

B people, B! A is wrong in the eyes of Xenu, too.

Did anyone else upon viewing this, want to go to everyone's house who voted on this list and switch the TP unrolling method? I am sure there are certain people on this list would fucking freak if they saw A changed to B (or vise versa) all over their house.

hunnychile 01-07-2010 01:15 PM

It's true that only "A" is allowed at my house. And I must sleep on the left side of the bed. To my friends in Berkeley, no this isn't why I moved out of California! *grin*

Hmmmm, Yes...This IS one of those Big "1" Cosmic Questions that should be required when you are seriously contemplating marriage. :)

percy 01-07-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fremen (Post 2595660)
Not enough options...

Also need...

Bidet

MSD 01-07-2010 06:09 PM

In my bathroom, A is the only practical way to do it. It's an old porcelain TP holder cemented in place and recessed slightly to go with the tile pattern, and it has decorative points at the top and bottom. The only way to reach it from the toilet is to reach under your right arm with your left, and if it's hanging overhand pulling on it causes the roll to cam up and catch on one of the points, preventing it from rolling and ripping at the first square. Underhand, you pull with the left hand and push down with your right arm to stop it.

This habit has stuck with me, but it really depends on the placement of the holder.
Quote:

Originally Posted by percy (Post 2746215)
Bidet

This is the obvious answer. If you got shit on any other part of yourself, would you wipe it off with paper and consider yourself clean?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2596323)
People debate this?

I just use a box of tissues. They are softer and there is no need for debate.

They're bad for septic tanks and can clog sewer pipes since they aren't designed to break down like TP.

Charlatan 01-08-2010 12:51 AM

Very well... B damn you B!!!


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