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Crack 02-14-2009 07:10 PM

The great debate.
 
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Manic_Skafe 02-14-2009 07:12 PM

Definitely A. Without a doubt.

snowy 02-14-2009 07:15 PM

A, preferably.

PonyPotato 02-14-2009 07:16 PM

B. Always.

Plan9 02-14-2009 07:18 PM

B. It's easier to bat off if you don't have thumbs.

ngdawg 02-14-2009 07:42 PM

If I see it in the A position, I change it. Drives me nuts when the first square isn't right in front.

filtherton 02-14-2009 07:42 PM

B motherfuckers. For the love of god, B.

I'm not going to contrive some sort of ridiculous justification for B, because the fact that it is the best way really is a matter of principle. Just know that I don't use the term fact lightly here.

Tully Mars 02-14-2009 07:49 PM

My preference is within in reach, other then that don't care.

fresnelly 02-14-2009 07:51 PM

I prefer B, but A generally prevents cats and toddlers from unspooling the roll for fun.

The real debate is:

A: One Fold 'em, One Wipe 'em

B: Scruncher

filtherton 02-14-2009 07:52 PM

I second that, Tully. The inconvenient placement of the roll-holder in my apartment pretty much ensures that we go Route C: The Free Roll aka Commando.

ASU2003 02-14-2009 08:19 PM

B. There is no debate.

Baraka_Guru 02-14-2009 08:22 PM

For those of you who consciously look at the roll to determine which side you want the paper to unroll on:

You need to go outside.

Go...now.

SSJTWIZTA 02-14-2009 08:41 PM

A.

fo' sho'.

bobby 02-14-2009 08:50 PM

anything but the glossy pages !....xoxoxoo

sadistikdreams 02-14-2009 08:51 PM

B.

It's infintely more easy to unroll, especially when in a rush.

dippin 02-14-2009 08:56 PM

This is not the great debate. It is too one sided to be the great debate. B is the obvious answer.

pig 02-14-2009 09:09 PM

A, all the way. The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...what's wrong with you people?

Crack 02-14-2009 09:14 PM

Seems as if I have struck a cord...

SSJTWIZTA 02-14-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2595654)
The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...


what he said

Fremen 02-14-2009 09:21 PM

Not enough options...

Also need...

C) free roll, no holder (my preference)
D) warsh-rag on a stick
-----Added 15/2/2009 at 12 : 23 : 19-----
Shit, I voted A by mistake!

Dammitall 02-14-2009 09:42 PM

Part II of the debate... soft, quilty and plushy, or thin and scratchy? (It may seem like a no brainer but each has its virtues.)

And does anybody use stuff in any color other than white anymore, or is that just my mom?

B, by the way. It's a rule in this house.

inBOIL 02-14-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2595654)
A, all the way. The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...what's wrong with you people?

Proper wrist technique allows the quick tear in configuation B. With A, it's all but impossible to tear off more than one sheet at a time, unless you roll with one hand and tear with the other.

ngdawg 02-14-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2595654)
A, all the way. The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...what's wrong with you people?

In all my centuries on earth that has never happened. Just how hard have you yanked that thing?
The configuration of A, on the other hand, forces one many times to feel around for the first square, wasting valuable time.

SSJTWIZTA 02-14-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inBOIL (Post 2595666)
With A, it's all but impossible to tear off more than one sheet at a time, unless you roll with one hand and tear with the other.

i never have that problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg
he configuration of A, on the other hand, forces one many times to feel around for the first square, wasting valuable time.

it usually dangles. easy to find.

filtherton 02-14-2009 10:28 PM

pig, I now know that my dreams of us retiring together in platonic, domestic bliss can never come true.

Better sooner than later.

Plan9 02-14-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filtherton (Post 2595676)
pig, I now know that my dreams of us retiring together in platonic, domestic bliss can never come true.

Yeah, I was so let down by this thread. I was imagining all sorts of hetero life partner action and then... the shit paper issue came up and I was devastated.

highthief 02-15-2009 03:53 AM

Hitler and Charles Manson always went for "A".

What else do you need to know?

Randerolf 02-15-2009 04:27 AM

B, but I can't really talk since my roll is supine in a bag like Gilligan in a hammock.

mixedmedia 02-15-2009 04:49 AM

never thought about it.

pig 02-15-2009 06:27 AM

You're breaking my heart filthy...we could always have dual rolls mounted in the head...the wrong one for you, the right one for me.

Regardless, I've stated my case. Now it's time to put theory to practice. I love Sunday mornings...

Grasshopper Green 02-15-2009 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg (Post 2595613)
If I see it in the A position, I change it. Drives me nuts when the first square isn't right in front.

Hear, hear, although I do have to give props to whoever changed the roll instead of being a lazy ass and letting it sit on top of the toilet, creating the possibility of an accidental drop into the bowl or even worse, the uncomfortable reach-behind position for the next unsuspecting visitor.

m0rpheus 02-15-2009 07:45 AM

B. Only because if it's A then my cat sees something hanging down and wants to play and I end up with a roll of TP all over the floor. With B you can leave it hugging the roll easier.

laconic1 02-15-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2595654)
A, all the way. The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...what's wrong with you people?

Quoted for truth. I can't understand the other way. Although I don't switch it if I see it done incorrectly at someone else's place.

World's King 02-15-2009 07:52 AM

I prefer baby whips...

Xazy 02-15-2009 10:34 AM

I can not understand A, and I have a few times changed a friends toilet paper to the correct position of B.

Strange Famous 02-15-2009 11:56 AM

I have never seen or heard of the bizzare method "A"... it just seems... wrong.

Jimellow 02-15-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2595654)
A, all the way. The presence of the roll in that configuration gives leverage to get a superior one-handed tear. With B, you go for the quick tear and you get half the roll...what's wrong with you people?

Unless you yank the paper like you're trying to start a lawnmower, I haven't found this to be a concern.

Unfortunately, my life has been deprived to the point where we don't even have a dispenser. We're free and clear, so to speak.

Such practice brings with it new problems: Dropping the roll and having the momentum cause it to roll under the tub, leaving a trail of white paper all the while.

Xerxys 02-15-2009 08:28 PM

In my house hold, people have died because of this!!! The TP goes over, not under defy this and face my wrath!!

Fremen 02-15-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa (Post 2595735)
Hear, hear, although I do have to give props to whoever changed the roll instead of being a lazy ass and letting it sit on top of the toilet, creating the possibility of an accidental drop into the bowl or even worse, the uncomfortable reach-behind position for the next unsuspecting visitor.

Viva La Revolución!!

Destrox 02-15-2009 10:54 PM

I was unaware of there even being a debate.

Those who use A I thought were just dyslexic.

B.

biznatch 02-15-2009 11:18 PM

B all the way. I always change it if it's not B.
Oh, and I have yet to need to yank it with one hand. Sit down time usually leaves me all the time to use both.

Lasereth 02-16-2009 05:07 AM

Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

pig 02-16-2009 05:58 AM

Well, I must be Hurculean in my wrist strength or else the rest of TFP must have wrists made of glass. I've pulled off way more than I wanted on several occasions. In A, you can also use wall friction (depending on the holder, I suppose) to help grab the paper for increased tearing efficiency. I can't for the life of me see an advantage to B. I see some potential advantages to A, and none for B. Regardless, you swine can't use my restroom without some level of supervision.

Charlatan 02-16-2009 04:39 PM

People debate this?

I just use a box of tissues. They are softer and there is no need for debate.

Bear Cub 02-16-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig (Post 2596055)
Well, I must be Hurculean in my wrist strength or else the rest of TFP must have wrists made of glass. I've pulled off way more than I wanted on several occasions. In A, you can also use wall friction (depending on the holder, I suppose) to help grab the paper for increased tearing efficiency. I can't for the life of me see an advantage to B. I see some potential advantages to A, and none for B. Regardless, you swine can't use my restroom without some level of supervision.

Those friction arguments can be made regardless of roll orientation, and so can all of the other "easier to tear nonsense."

I'm sorry, but A is NOT easier to tear than B based on physics. The tensile strength of the toilet paper does not vary with orientation, nor does the force you apply, the angle along the horizontal plane at which you tear, and the coefficient of friction on the roller remains the same. If anyone would care to draw up a free body diagram to prove otherwise, by all means do so. Until then, leave your false science out of this debate.
-----Added 16/2/2009 at 08 : 15 : 19-----
And for you religious types, God also favors the B orientation. Just think about all the B's. Bethlehem, Bible, Buttsex, Breasts, its all there, clear as day.

pig 02-16-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear Cub (Post 2596330)
Those friction arguments can be made regardless of roll orientation, and so can all of the other "easier to tear nonsense."

I'm sorry, but A is NOT easier to tear than B based on physics. The tensile strength of the toilet paper does not vary with orientation, nor does the force you apply, the angle along the horizontal plane at which you tear, and the coefficient of friction on the roller remains the same. If anyone would care to draw up a free body diagram to prove otherwise, by all means do so. Until then, leave your false science out of this debate.
-----Added 16/2/2009 at 08 : 15 : 19-----
And for you religious types, God also favors the B orientation. Just think about all the B's. Bethlehem, Bible, Buttsex, Breasts, its all there, clear as day.

Say Champ, I would have to beg to differ, but allow me to state a few assumptions up front. No offense to any who do not conform to these assumptions...

Super Critical Assumption Numero Uno: Said toilet paper tearer is not a midget.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Dos: All of the various properties of your favorite brand of (hopefully double ply, no lotion) toilet paper are indeed invariant on configuration.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Tres: I am not putting together a free-body diagram for this thing.
Super Critical Assumption Numero Cuatro: I keep my head as far from my own shit as possible.

Now, I would tend to think that if you're reasonably higher up than the toilet paper holder, you will tend to pull up on the paper. Especially if you want your nostrils as far from the detritus you just blew out of your colon. And I do. I'm not saying I can't tear it in B, of course I can. But the presence of the bar between the paper and the direction my hand is pulling the paper does in fact provide something of a pinch point, which can make it easier to tear the paper. In configuration B, it would require something like holding a pencil against the top of the roll at the point where you're tearing it. Similar to putting a ruler against a fold in a piece of paper when you're trying to tear a straight edge. Does that not make sense?

I'll give you that the friction thing might not make much difference. You might have a difference in leverage arms from the point of contact / rippage, but it's dependent on the technique.

Let's not forget Abraham, Absolution, Angels, Assfucking, Acrolytes, and Ask-Me-Before-You-Tell-Your-Parents...

filtherton 02-16-2009 07:33 PM

I'll agree with pig to the extent that the A position more readily allows one to stop the roll with the side of one's hand and tear with one's fingers, thus it facilitates the one handed tear. That being said, the A position is still an abomination before Jesus, Allah and Crom.

pig 02-16-2009 07:38 PM

et tu, filte?

grumpyolddude 02-16-2009 07:44 PM

As for me and my house, B.

little_tippler 02-17-2009 03:50 PM

It always annoys me to see A. I voted A by mistake too. Doh!

B, people, B. A makes NO sense.

Xerxys 01-04-2010 08:41 AM

The Toilet Paper Roll Poll

captaincanada84 01-07-2010 12:58 PM

I voted for A but really meant B, I looked at the graphic wrong.

LordEden 01-07-2010 01:10 PM

B people, B! A is wrong in the eyes of Xenu, too.

Did anyone else upon viewing this, want to go to everyone's house who voted on this list and switch the TP unrolling method? I am sure there are certain people on this list would fucking freak if they saw A changed to B (or vise versa) all over their house.

hunnychile 01-07-2010 01:15 PM

It's true that only "A" is allowed at my house. And I must sleep on the left side of the bed. To my friends in Berkeley, no this isn't why I moved out of California! *grin*

Hmmmm, Yes...This IS one of those Big "1" Cosmic Questions that should be required when you are seriously contemplating marriage. :)

percy 01-07-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fremen (Post 2595660)
Not enough options...

Also need...

Bidet

MSD 01-07-2010 06:09 PM

In my bathroom, A is the only practical way to do it. It's an old porcelain TP holder cemented in place and recessed slightly to go with the tile pattern, and it has decorative points at the top and bottom. The only way to reach it from the toilet is to reach under your right arm with your left, and if it's hanging overhand pulling on it causes the roll to cam up and catch on one of the points, preventing it from rolling and ripping at the first square. Underhand, you pull with the left hand and push down with your right arm to stop it.

This habit has stuck with me, but it really depends on the placement of the holder.
Quote:

Originally Posted by percy (Post 2746215)
Bidet

This is the obvious answer. If you got shit on any other part of yourself, would you wipe it off with paper and consider yourself clean?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2596323)
People debate this?

I just use a box of tissues. They are softer and there is no need for debate.

They're bad for septic tanks and can clog sewer pipes since they aren't designed to break down like TP.

Charlatan 01-08-2010 12:51 AM

Very well... B damn you B!!!


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