who heeds emergency landing info on planes? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

dlish · 01-17-2009, 03:56 AM

after the hudson river crash the other day, i was just wondering how many of the people would have read or actually paid attention to the emergency landing information they broadcasts on planes.

i know that theres only a very small chance of survival in a plane crash, but this incident showed us that its possible to survive, and that we should be making ourselves aware of the protocols of emergency landings.

i for one dont read the material. ill watch the video if its there 9usually with no sound), but when i go onto a plane i just makes ure i know where the exits are, and where the lifejackets are. the oxygen will always pop down from above.

is anyone else not attentive like me? if you catch as many planes as i do, and i know some of you do, you really do get sick of listening to the same thing over and over and over again.

Randerolf · 01-17-2009, 04:50 AM

I watch and read the announcements. I'm stuck on an airplane. Are we so busy/ entertainment addicted that we won't pay attention when strapped down and told what to do?

Gabbyness · 01-17-2009, 05:11 AM

I fly constantly and I always at least familiarize myself with the locations of the exits/etc. I'll pay attention if it's a different model than I'm used to flying on, for example, the new 380.

Otherwise, yes, unfortunately, I'm only paying lip service.

ratbastid · 01-17-2009, 05:17 AM

You know what? I've heard it. Like a few hundred times I've heard it. If there's something new, I'll notice, but apart from that? I know how to operate my seat belt. I know how to pull the mask down and put it on my face. I know to be aware of my exits. I really don't need a reminder. It's useful for those who haven't flown or whatever, but if you don't mind, I'll be reading my book.

SabrinaFair · 01-17-2009, 07:42 AM

Yeah, I kind of zone out during the safety lecture. I don't fly frequently (once a year or so), but I'm pretty familiar with the workings of a belt buckle and the concept of putting on an oxygen mask. I do a scan of the plane and locate the exits, though.

Tully Mars · 01-17-2009, 08:10 AM

I ignore the video or speech. I know how attach a seat beat. I read the safety/emergency plans in the seat back in front of me. I also count the number of rows from my seat to the nearest two nearest exists, the one in front and behind me. If I'm seated in an emergency exit row I look over the instruction on how to remove the door. All things I don't want to be figuring out during in an emergency.

Plan9 · 01-17-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

You know what? I've heard it. Like a few hundred times I've heard it. If there's something new, I'll notice, but apart from that? I know how to operate my seat belt. I know how to pull the mask down and put it on my face. I know to be aware of my exits. I really don't need a reminder. It's useful for those who haven't flown or whatever, but if you don't mind, I'll be reading my book.

The purpose of the endless repetition is that airlines can't integrate blunt force trauma into their training (i.e. simulated crash to scare the shit out of cocky people who think they're ready for anything). They want you to visualize it and do the whole tactile thing with your seat belt, etc. to hopefully brainwash you into doing something when shit happens instead of staring like a deer in the headlights.

It's lame, but that's all they deem necessary to practice.

Safety Brief: It might be annoying and inconvenient but if it saves 1 life, it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by Randerolf

I watch and read the announcements. I'm stuck on an airplane. Are we so busy/ entertainment addicted that we won't pay attention when strapped down and told what to do?

Yes. The "human brick / human stampede" factor that always seems to pop up in emergency situations. People either do nothing or decide "me first" and end up hurting others.

snowy · 01-17-2009, 08:35 AM

I think it's courteous to pay attention, if nothing else. How would you like it if you had to stand up in front of a plane full of people and give a safety lecture that no one paid attention to? I'm sure they're used to it by now, but I'd rather be polite.

I always, always, always read the seatback material on emergencies. I don't mind sitting in exit rows when I fly, and make sure to be prepared to help people out should I choose to sit there by reading the instructions. If I'm not in the exit row, I make damn sure to know where the exits are.

Sure, the chances of me being in a plane crash are really small, but why chance being unprepared? What does it hurt to pay attention for 2 minutes?

Lebell · 01-17-2009, 08:44 AM

When I fly (infrequently now) I try to:

* Note path to the nearest 2 exits
* Wear cotton blends so that a flash fire doesn't melt material to my flesh
* Wear sneakers or other shoes with good traction to reduce the chances of slipping and falling

I half listen to the emergency information since I can recite most of it by heart.

The_Jazz · 01-17-2009, 08:48 AM

I rarely pay attention unless it's an aircraft that I've never flown on or if it's a prop plane. I'm almost always sitting in an exit row anyway, so I don't even need to know that. And the emergency exits on Boeing's and Airbuses open almost identically, so that's even pretty easy.

yournamehere · 01-17-2009, 09:07 AM

Whenever I've ever been faced with a decision, I look at the risk/reward of each option.. What's the worst that could happen if I choose this path of action? How about the other one? What's the effort involved?

To me, paying attention to the flight attendant for two minutes is a no-brainer. More often than not, I'm checking her out, anyway.

At the very least, look forward and back to see where the nearest exit row is, and count the rows - you may not have good visibility when you need to find it.

ratbastid · 01-17-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crompsin

Safety Brief: It might be annoying and inconvenient but if it saves 1 life, it's worth it.

Sure, I'm not saying not to do it. And I'm clear that I'm responsible for my own safety. I even hold myself responsible for the safety of those around me. But I know the drill, and don't feel that hearing it another time would make me any better at keeping myself or others safe.

biznatch · 01-17-2009, 10:03 AM

Unlike everyone here, I can't say I've paid attention to where the exits are. Maybe I'll remember to in the future, but chances are either people will be going to them/through them, or won't. And if, as this thread suggests, I'm part of the small percentage of people who don't check, then a fair amount of people on the plane will check.
Yes, I could be the only survivor, or only guy able to talk/move, but then we'd be talking about a infinitesimal probability. Not something I'm gonna worry about.

Before I get yelled at that I'm the brick blocking society, people getting out, and all sorts of shit and the reason people die, let me tell you I've flown enough to know that there are exits around the front, middle, and back of the plane. Whether I can get to them is another story.

lostgirl · 01-17-2009, 10:48 AM

I've heard it enough times to know it by heart. I half pay attention.

I don't think they really care if you are paying attention or not.

Tully Mars · 01-17-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lostgirl

I've heard it enough times to know it by heart. I half pay attention.

I don't think they really care if you are paying attention or not.

I can't remember the last time it was a person and not a video.

dlish · 01-17-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lostgirl

I've heard it enough times to know it by heart. I half pay attention.

I don't think they really care if you are paying attention or not.

they dont care whether you listen or not because they have fulfilled their duty of care to their clients by providing the necesary information in case of an emergency. its all about not getting sued. nothing more.

jazz, how do you always get an exit seat???

special_k_77 · 01-17-2009, 11:08 AM

on southwest it is a person they have no video equipment much less safety video, at least no southwest flight I have ever been on, and I will be honest I scope out the neaest exits but usually I am tring to figure out the fastest way to get a drink.

CinnamonGirl · 01-17-2009, 11:37 AM

I haven't flown in a while, but when I have in the past, the first thing I'd do after getting settled was check out the safety card .

I kind of zoned out during the safety belt/oxygen mask portion of the lecture, but I always made sure I knew where the exits were.

When I was younger (like, way younger), it was a superstition thing. "If I read the card and pay attention, the plane won't crash." As I got older, that idea faded, but it was still habit. Now I just want to refresh my memory and make sure I'll know what to do.

Tully Mars · 01-17-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by special_k_77

on southwest it is a person they have no video equipment much less safety video, at least no southwest flight I have ever been on, and I will be honest I scope out the neaest exits but usually I am tring to figure out the fastest way to get a drink.

I'm sure you're right, haven't flown them in a long time.

Come to think of it US Airways has taken there's out. I forgot all about it but on a trip home in late Oct to Oregon I got the video and the movie, in Nov. on the way back I got no video and a live person. Guess removing the video equipment saves gas and weight. Better take your laptop or PSP.

ShaniFaye · 01-17-2009, 12:32 PM

I always sit in an exit seat (WAY more leg room there) so I know where at least one exit is lol I always pay attention to the talk too, flying scares the hell out of me (not enuff to stop me but Im still terrified the whole time) so I like to know all my options

The_Jazz · 01-17-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish

jazz, how do you always get an exit seat???

I've been Premier Executive on United for about 8 years straight. That gives me more status than just about anyone else on a given plane. I've got something like 450,000 actual miles flown with them.

Strange Famous · 01-17-2009, 12:55 PM

I always pay attention - it may sound lame but I dont want to jinx anything!

Derwood · 01-17-2009, 02:18 PM

If you're not going to pay attention, at least shut up during the speech. I've been on flights where I'm in the first couple rows (ie right next to the demonstrating flight attendant) and the people across the aisle from me are talking loudly during the lecture. The rudeness of people never ceases to amaze me

Tully Mars · 01-17-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz

I've been Premier Executive on United for about 8 years straight. That gives me more status than just about anyone else on a given plane. I've got something like 450,000 actual miles flown with them.

That'll do it.

Had Chairman for awhile with US Air. Lost it last year, year before? Can't remember. Was nice having it but as with United the only way to get status is AIS (ass in seat)- card miles and everything else are bonus miles and don't count toward status. Since I don't have much of a reason to travel anymore.. bye-bye status.

biznatch · 01-17-2009, 03:16 PM

I used to read the cards as a kid because I got prodigiously bored. Also the entire SkyMall mags.
Recently I skimmed a skyMall mag, and it seems as if they never change their catalog. So much of the crap sold there is exactly the same as, say, 7 years ago.

Tully Mars · 01-17-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

If you're not going to pay attention, at least shut up during the speech. I've been on flights where I'm in the first couple rows (ie right next to the demonstrating flight attendant) and the people across the aisle from me are talking loudly during the lecture. The rudeness of people never ceases to amaze me

Or talking on their freaking cells.

Martian · 01-17-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish

...i know that theres only a very small chance of survival...

Actually...

According to this article, your chances of surviving a plane crash are pretty damn good, so long as you pay attention and have half an idea of what to do.

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Originally Posted by The Daily Beast

Even if you somehow ended up in a plane crash—a remarkably unlikely if—your chances of dying are unbelievably small. Believe it or not, the survival rate in plane crashes is 95.7 percent. Yes, 95.7. More precisely, the National Transportation Safety Board analyzed all the airplane accidents between 1983 and 2000. Some 53,487 people were involved in those incidents, and 51,207 survived. Hence, the survival rate of 95.7. The safety board judged twenty-six of the accidents to be the worst, meaning that they involved fire, injuries, or substantial damage. Excluding those in which no one had a chance, the survival rate in the most “serious” accidents was 76.6 percent. This means that even in bad crashes, more than three-quarters of the passengers survive. “Contrary to public perception,” the board concluded, “the most likely outcome of an accident is that most of the occupants survived.”...

...consider the facts. According to the European Transport Safety Council, 40 percent of the fatalities in plane crashes around the world occur in situations that are actually survivable. In other words, out of an average of fifteen hundred total fatalities, some six hundred people die in accidents where they might have lived. The question is: Why? Broadly speaking, the planes are well made—the safety equipment is good—the standards are high. Of course, there are plenty of improvements that would make airplanes even safer (like air bags, three-point safety harnesses, and rear-facing seats). But in survivable crashes, the experts say, it all comes down to human factors and what you do—or don’t do—to save yourself.

I haven't checked sources or anything, but it makes sense to me. It's all about selection bias -- the accidents that get reported are usually the worst ones, which in turn causes most people to think that all accidents are the worst, if you follow.

murp0434 · 01-18-2009, 12:13 AM

at the risk of being repetitive....i definitely ignore the people talking about the oxygen masks and emergency exits unless they happen to be attractive or especially ugly or funny looking

stonefaceddog · 01-18-2009, 10:38 AM

I tend to ignore the safety speech and/or video. I do make it a point to locate all the exits though.

Lucifer · 01-25-2009, 09:04 AM

This is why you should always listen to the instructions:

Just in case your plane does go down AND you survive, you don't want to look like a complete ninny on the 6:00 news!

dlish · 01-25-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

This is why you should always listen to the instructions:

Just in case your plane does go down AND you survive, you don't want to look like a complete ninny on the 6:00 news!

he would have looked like a dill irrespective of whether he listened or not!

new man · 01-25-2009, 11:43 AM

I just wear my seatbelt and a condom. That way if the plane crashes and I survive, I don't want to be seen on tv with pee stains on my pants.

MeltedMetalGlob · 06-18-2011, 07:05 PM

I try not to fly, but whenever I do I pay no attention to the emergency info- I have my own procedure that I follow should an emergency arise:

Step 1: Put head between legs.
Step 2: Kiss ass goodbye.

amonkie · 06-18-2011, 07:31 PM

Due to my deafness I'm ineligible to sit in the exit row seats - Because I read the safety cards and know this... I coulda just saved your life.

lunxpress · 06-25-2011, 07:25 PM

Yes. I do listen a little.

Knew a young woman who was on PAM Flight 103 over Lockerbee, that shared cigarettes and same birthday with me.

Never saw her again.

citadel · 06-26-2011, 12:30 AM

I talked to a stewardess on a flight onetime who told me that when the plane crashed in the Hudson and passengers were exiting into the water, many of them were carrying their bags and other personal effects, but didn't take anything else with them. The crew had to go back into the plane to get floating seat cushions and stuff. I listen, but I'm afraid other panicking idiots will still screw things up for me if an emergency happens.

01-17-2009, 03:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	who heeds emergency landing info on planes? after the hudson river crash the other day, i was just wondering how many of the people would have read or actually paid attention to the emergency landing information they broadcasts on planes. i know that theres only a very small chance of survival in a plane crash, but this incident showed us that its possible to survive, and that we should be making ourselves aware of the protocols of emergency landings. i for one dont read the material. ill watch the video if its there 9usually with no sound), but when i go onto a plane i just makes ure i know where the exits are, and where the lifejackets are. the oxygen will always pop down from above. is anyone else not attentive like me? if you catch as many planes as i do, and i know some of you do, you really do get sick of listening to the same thing over and over and over again. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

01-17-2009, 05:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gabbyness Chicken scratch. Location: Japan!!!	I fly constantly and I always at least familiarize myself with the locations of the exits/etc. I'll pay attention if it's a different model than I'm used to flying on, for example, the new 380. Otherwise, yes, unfortunately, I'm only paying lip service. __________________ One, two, three, four, fiiiiiiiifth.

01-17-2009, 07:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
SabrinaFair Junkie Location: Louisville, KY	Yeah, I kind of zone out during the safety lecture. I don't fly frequently (once a year or so), but I'm pretty familiar with the workings of a belt buckle and the concept of putting on an oxygen mask. I do a scan of the plane and locate the exits, though. __________________ "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy." -Desiderata

01-17-2009, 08:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I ignore the video or speech. I know how attach a seat beat. I read the safety/emergency plans in the seat back in front of me. I also count the number of rows from my seat to the nearest two nearest exists, the one in front and behind me. If I'm seated in an emergency exit row I look over the instruction on how to remove the door. All things I don't want to be figuring out during in an emergency. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

01-17-2009, 08:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	I think it's courteous to pay attention, if nothing else. How would you like it if you had to stand up in front of a plane full of people and give a safety lecture that no one paid attention to? I'm sure they're used to it by now, but I'd rather be polite. I always, always, always read the seatback material on emergencies. I don't mind sitting in exit rows when I fly, and make sure to be prepared to help people out should I choose to sit there by reading the instructions. If I'm not in the exit row, I make damn sure to know where the exits are. Sure, the chances of me being in a plane crash are really small, but why chance being unprepared? What does it hurt to pay attention for 2 minutes? __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

01-17-2009, 04:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Randerolf Fireball Location: ~	I watch and read the announcements. I'm stuck on an airplane. Are we so busy/ entertainment addicted that we won't pay attention when strapped down and told what to do?

01-17-2009, 05:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	You know what? I've heard it. Like a few hundred times I've heard it. If there's something new, I'll notice, but apart from that? I know how to operate my seat belt. I know how to pull the mask down and put it on my face. I know to be aware of my exits. I really don't need a reminder. It's useful for those who haven't flown or whatever, but if you don't mind, I'll be reading my book.

01-17-2009, 08:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	When I fly (infrequently now) I try to: * Note path to the nearest 2 exits * Wear cotton blends so that a flash fire doesn't melt material to my flesh * Wear sneakers or other shoes with good traction to reduce the chances of slipping and falling I half listen to the emergency information since I can recite most of it by heart. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-17-2009, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	I rarely pay attention unless it's an aircraft that I've never flown on or if it's a prop plane. I'm almost always sitting in an exit row anyway, so I don't even need to know that. And the emergency exits on Boeing's and Airbuses open almost identically, so that's even pretty easy. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

01-17-2009, 09:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
yournamehere Invisible Location: tentative, at best	Whenever I've ever been faced with a decision, I look at the risk/reward of each option.. What's the worst that could happen if I choose this path of action? How about the other one? What's the effort involved? To me, paying attention to the flight attendant for two minutes is a no-brainer. More often than not, I'm checking her out, anyway. At the very least, look forward and back to see where the nearest exit row is, and count the rows - you may not have good visibility when you need to find it. __________________ If you want to avoid 95% of internet spelling errors: "If your ridiculous pants are too loose, you're definitely going to lose them. Tell your two loser friends over there that they're going to lose theirs, too." It won't hurt your fashion sense, either.

01-17-2009, 10:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	Unlike everyone here, I can't say I've paid attention to where the exits are. Maybe I'll remember to in the future, but chances are either people will be going to them/through them, or won't. And if, as this thread suggests, I'm part of the small percentage of people who don't check, then a fair amount of people on the plane will check. Yes, I could be the only survivor, or only guy able to talk/move, but then we'd be talking about a infinitesimal probability. Not something I'm gonna worry about. Before I get yelled at that I'm the brick blocking society, people getting out, and all sorts of shit and the reason people die, let me tell you I've flown enough to know that there are exits around the front, middle, and back of the plane. Whether I can get to them is another story. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

01-17-2009, 10:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
lostgirl lightform Location: Edge of the deep green sea	I've heard it enough times to know it by heart. I half pay attention. I don't think they really care if you are paying attention or not.

01-17-2009, 11:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
special_k_77 Tilted Location: Austin, TX	on southwest it is a person they have no video equipment much less safety video, at least no southwest flight I have ever been on, and I will be honest I scope out the neaest exits but usually I am tring to figure out the fastest way to get a drink. __________________ My posts looked so naked without this down here so I figured I would put something down here just so my posts didn't feel like that dream where you are the only one naked in a room full of clothed people.

01-17-2009, 11:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
CinnamonGirl She's Actual Size Location: Central Republic of Where-in-the-Hell	I haven't flown in a while, but when I have in the past, the first thing I'd do after getting settled was check out the safety card . I kind of zoned out during the safety belt/oxygen mask portion of the lecture, but I always made sure I knew where the exits were. When I was younger (like, way younger), it was a superstition thing. "If I read the card and pay attention, the plane won't crash." As I got older, that idea faded, but it was still habit. Now I just want to refresh my memory and make sure I'll know what to do. __________________ "...for though she was ordinary, she possessed health, wit, courage, charm, and cheerfulness. But because she was not beautiful, no one ever seemed to notice these other qualities, which is so often the way of the world." "Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?"

01-17-2009, 12:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I always sit in an exit seat (WAY more leg room there) so I know where at least one exit is lol I always pay attention to the talk too, flying scares the hell out of me (not enuff to stop me but Im still terrified the whole time) so I like to know all my options __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

01-17-2009, 12:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	I always pay attention - it may sound lame but I dont want to jinx anything! __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

01-17-2009, 02:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	If you're not going to pay attention, at least shut up during the speech. I've been on flights where I'm in the first couple rows (ie right next to the demonstrating flight attendant) and the people across the aisle from me are talking loudly during the lecture. The rudeness of people never ceases to amaze me

01-17-2009, 03:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I used to read the cards as a kid because I got prodigiously bored. Also the entire SkyMall mags. Recently I skimmed a skyMall mag, and it seems as if they never change their catalog. So much of the crap sold there is exactly the same as, say, 7 years ago. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

01-18-2009, 12:13 AM	#28 (permalink)
murp0434 Crazy Location: East Texas	at the risk of being repetitive....i definitely ignore the people talking about the oxygen masks and emergency exits unless they happen to be attractive or especially ugly or funny looking __________________ These are the good old days. How did I become upright?

01-18-2009, 10:38 AM	#29 (permalink)
stonefaceddog Upright Location: anywhere but here.	I tend to ignore the safety speech and/or video. I do make it a point to locate all the exits though.

01-25-2009, 09:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	This is why you should always listen to the instructions: Just in case your plane does go down AND you survive, you don't want to look like a complete ninny on the 6:00 news! __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

01-25-2009, 11:43 AM	#32 (permalink)
new man Banned	I just wear my seatbelt and a condom. That way if the plane crashes and I survive, I don't want to be seen on tv with pee stains on my pants.

06-18-2011, 07:05 PM	#33 (permalink)
MeltedMetalGlob Crazy Location: San Huevos, USA	I try not to fly, but whenever I do I pay no attention to the emergency info- I have my own procedure that I follow should an emergency arise: Step 1: Put head between legs. Step 2: Kiss ass goodbye. __________________ How's your mom, Ed?

06-18-2011, 07:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	Due to my deafness I'm ineligible to sit in the exit row seats - Because I read the safety cards and know this... I coulda just saved your life. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

06-25-2011, 07:25 PM	#35 (permalink)
lunxpress Tilted Location: Here	Yes. I do listen a little. Knew a young woman who was on PAM Flight 103 over Lockerbee, that shared cigarettes and same birthday with me. Never saw her again.

06-26-2011, 12:30 AM	#36 (permalink)
citadel Crazy Location: Yonder	I talked to a stewardess on a flight onetime who told me that when the plane crashed in the Hudson and passengers were exiting into the water, many of them were carrying their bags and other personal effects, but didn't take anything else with them. The crew had to go back into the plane to get floating seat cushions and stuff. I listen, but I'm afraid other panicking idiots will still screw things up for me if an emergency happens.