abortion and death penalty in the same thread??? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

yatzr · 06-29-2003, 11:57 PM

actually, I don't want this thread to be any kind of argument about the two topics. I was just wondering how people feel about BOTH of them. From the people I've talked to, the majority of them are either for the death penalty and against abortion, or for abortion and against the death penalty. I always just thought this was kinda weird. Maybe I just meet weird people, I don't know. That's why i made this poll. To avoid confusion of definitions I consider being against the death penalty as wanting to outlaw it. I consider being against abortion as wanting to outlaw it (all in american terms). I don't really care what you think of my definitions, I think they'll do just fine for this poll

I'm for the death penalty and against abortion.

Again, please don't put much else besides where you stand on both, there are other other threads to do that. Thanks

Phaenx · 06-30-2003, 12:06 AM

I don't really care about abortion. The one where they wait forever then yank the baby out and jam scissors into it's skull is unsettling, but otherwise I'm fairly indifferent to the idea. Death penalty however I'm all for. I am working on an inmate combustable engine, thin out our overcrowded prisons and stick it to the oil kingpins at the same time.

rockzilla · 06-30-2003, 12:09 AM

I'm definitely pro-choice, but there are only a few crimes that I see as being death peanalty-worthy, and even then, there has to be proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, murder, rape and child molesting being the crimes worthty of a death penalty. In fact I think torture should be legalized for child molesters.

Overlord · 06-30-2003, 12:48 AM

I voted for the second choice, but IMO there are specific circumstances where abortions can be justified (although not the only solution, they can be justified). Abortions are the easy way out, it is the way for quitters and has beens. I realize it isn't easy raising a child but you take that chance whenever you have sex (especially without protection).

For the most part, abortions are for those who want a second chance because they screwed up...the only problem with abortions is while your improving your life, your destroying a tiny child's life.

Very tough decision

cheerios · 06-30-2003, 01:40 AM

I'm the pro-choice/anti-death vote... finicky, aren't I?

papermachesatan · 06-30-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Overlord
I voted for the second choice, but IMO there are specific circumstances where abortions can be justified (although not the only solution, they can be justified). Abortions are the easy way out, it is the way for quitters and has beens. I realize it isn't easy raising a child but you take that chance whenever you have sex (especially without protection).

For the most part, abortions are for those who want a second chance because they screwed up...the only problem with abortions is while your improving your life, your destroying a tiny child's life.

Very tough decision

So abortion is unacceptable if the mother's life is at risk? What about if the women was raped?

sixate · 06-30-2003, 02:14 AM

I don't have a problem with abortions and the death penalty.

More people should have abortions. There's a ton of people having kids who aren't capable of raising them properly.

Criminals should be killed. Period!

yatzr · 06-30-2003, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by papermachesatan
So abortion is unacceptable if the mother's life is at risk? What about if the women was raped?

HEY!!! what did i say about not arguing and shit

seriously though, i don't want that on this thread, there's plenty of other threads on the board to do that.

Meridae'n · 06-30-2003, 02:52 AM

I'm not so much pro abortion, more pro spend-the-money-on-education-instead-of-arguing.

Big no on the death penalty...

The_Dude · 06-30-2003, 07:02 AM

4 abortion and 4 death penalty ONLY if there is overwhelming evidence

rogue49 · 06-30-2003, 07:32 AM

death is death.

I wouldn't say I'm "for" either one.
But at the same time I can see where they are necessary.
I'm not going to take away the right for a woman to choose.
And there are times where a person has gone beyond humanity.
Life is a complex situation, there are no absolutes.

SiN · 06-30-2003, 08:13 AM

for abortion but against death penalty

is how i voted.

papermachesatan · 06-30-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by yatzr
HEY!!! what did i say about not arguing and shit

seriously though, i don't want that on this thread, there's plenty of other threads on the board to do that.

*cough*spam!*cough*

Why no discussion? It's not a thread hijack really...

Lebell · 06-30-2003, 08:46 AM

yatzr,

It is difficult, if not impossible to control a thread once it's been released to the world. They tend to take on lives of their own.

Personally, I am prochoice and anti-death penalty.

vermin · 06-30-2003, 08:58 AM

Anti-abortion, pro-death penalty. Give everyone a chance. If they fuck it up for themselves, snuff 'em.

yatzr · 06-30-2003, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Lebell
yatzr,

It is difficult, if not impossible to control a thread once it's been released to the world. They tend to take on lives of their own.

Personally, I am prochoice and anti-death penalty.

I know, I like to dream the dream

. Discussion is good yes, but this stuff is already being discussed elsewhere anyway...the thing that I hate is when people just start arguing for the pure sake of arguing (don't pretend like it doesn't happen

), that's when the thread has gone to crap imo.

spectre · 06-30-2003, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49
death is death.

I wouldn't say I'm "for" either one.
But at the same time I can see where they are necessary.
I'm not going to take away the right for a woman to choose.
And there are times where a person has gone beyond humanity.
Life is a complex situation, there are no absolutes.

As usual, rogue managed to say exactly what I was thinking.

MrFlux · 06-30-2003, 01:48 PM

Pro-choice, anti death penalty. But only because there's better punishments for criminals than death.

Leviathan[NCV] · 06-30-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by vermin
Anti-abortion, pro-death penalty. Give everyone a chance. If they fuck it up for themselves, snuff 'em.

Hahaha dude that's an awesome argument.

Personally I'm against making a human life pay for a wrong they did not commit. Crimes are usualy commited by the same people, over and over again. Break the cycle.

Steffi · 06-30-2003, 08:12 PM

I'm totally against abortion, and for the death penalty.

View Poll Results: where do you stand on BOTH issues?
against both abortion and death penalty	2	6.90%
against abortion but for death penalty	7	24.14%
for abortion but against death penalty	7	24.14%
for both abortion and death penalty	13	44.83%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

06-29-2003, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
yatzr Insane	abortion and death penalty in the same thread??? actually, I don't want this thread to be any kind of argument about the two topics. I was just wondering how people feel about BOTH of them. From the people I've talked to, the majority of them are either for the death penalty and against abortion, or for abortion and against the death penalty. I always just thought this was kinda weird. Maybe I just meet weird people, I don't know. That's why i made this poll. To avoid confusion of definitions I consider being against the death penalty as wanting to outlaw it. I consider being against abortion as wanting to outlaw it (all in american terms). I don't really care what you think of my definitions, I think they'll do just fine for this poll I'm for the death penalty and against abortion. Again, please don't put much else besides where you stand on both, there are other other threads to do that. Thanks __________________ Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.

06-30-2003, 12:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	I don't really care about abortion. The one where they wait forever then yank the baby out and jam scissors into it's skull is unsettling, but otherwise I'm fairly indifferent to the idea. Death penalty however I'm all for. I am working on an inmate combustable engine, thin out our overcrowded prisons and stick it to the oil kingpins at the same time. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

06-30-2003, 02:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Meridae'n Loose Cunt Location: North Bondi RSL	I'm not so much pro abortion, more pro spend-the-money-on-education-instead-of-arguing. Big no on the death penalty... __________________ What's easier to believe: that a guy was born without sex in the manner of several Greek demigods and grew up to be able to transmute liquids and alter his body density yet couldn't escape government execution, or that three freemasons in a vehicle made with aluminum foil in an era before digital technology escaped our atmosphere, landing on the moon, broadcasted from there, and then flew back without burning up?

06-30-2003, 07:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	4 abortion and 4 death penalty ONLY if there is overwhelming evidence __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

06-30-2003, 12:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
rockzilla Junkie Location: The Kitchen	I'm definitely pro-choice, but there are only a few crimes that I see as being death peanalty-worthy, and even then, there has to be proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, murder, rape and child molesting being the crimes worthty of a death penalty. In fact I think torture should be legalized for child molesters.

06-30-2003, 12:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
Overlord Crazy	I voted for the second choice, but IMO there are specific circumstances where abortions can be justified (although not the only solution, they can be justified). Abortions are the easy way out, it is the way for quitters and has beens. I realize it isn't easy raising a child but you take that chance whenever you have sex (especially without protection). For the most part, abortions are for those who want a second chance because they screwed up...the only problem with abortions is while your improving your life, your destroying a tiny child's life. Very tough decision

06-30-2003, 01:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
cheerios Banned Location: 'bout 2 feet from my iMac	I'm the pro-choice/anti-death vote... finicky, aren't I?

06-30-2003, 02:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	I don't have a problem with abortions and the death penalty. More people should have abortions. There's a ton of people having kids who aren't capable of raising them properly. Criminals should be killed. Period!

06-30-2003, 07:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	death is death. I wouldn't say I'm "for" either one. But at the same time I can see where they are necessary. I'm not going to take away the right for a woman to choose. And there are times where a person has gone beyond humanity. Life is a complex situation, there are no absolutes. Last edited by rogue49; 06-30-2003 at 07:36 AM..

06-30-2003, 08:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	for abortion but against death penalty is how i voted. __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

06-30-2003, 08:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	yatzr, It is difficult, if not impossible to control a thread once it's been released to the world. They tend to take on lives of their own. Personally, I am prochoice and anti-death penalty. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

06-30-2003, 08:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
vermin Indifferent to anti-matter Location: Tucson, AZ	Anti-abortion, pro-death penalty. Give everyone a chance. If they fuck it up for themselves, snuff 'em. __________________ If puns were sausages, this would be the wurst.

06-30-2003, 01:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
MrFlux Fluxing wildly... Location: Auckland, New Zealand	Pro-choice, anti death penalty. But only because there's better punishments for criminals than death. __________________ flux (n.) Medicine. The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.

06-30-2003, 08:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Steffi Tilted Location: Somewhere in the middle	I'm totally against abortion, and for the death penalty.