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dlish · 10-02-2008, 03:36 PM

Steve Fossett the adventurers' plane has been found, except theres no body found which would exacerbate the conspiracy theories about him. This comes days after his ID and money were found close by.

what do you guys think? in light of this news what do you think? is he dead? is he hiding? what's he running from? is he chillin with Tupac and Lady Di and Elvis?

i think he's dead. probably strewn away from the plane somewhere. hope they do find him soon so that his poor wife can be put to rest.

Wreck of Steve Fossett's plane discovered

The mangled wreckage of the plane being flown by adventurer Steve Fossett when he disappeared has been found but there was no sign of the millionaire's body.

Madera County Sheriff John Anderson said the shattered remains of Fossett's single-engine Bellanca had been spotted during an aerial search of the rugged Sierra Nevada mountains in California late Wednesday.

Rescuers later reached the plane on foot and confirmed it was Fossett's aircraft but found no human remains at the crash site.

Anderson said photos of the site appeared to indicate that the plane had smashed head-on into a mountainside at high speed.

"The crash looked so severe I doubt if someone would have walked away from it," Anderson told reporters. "There was no body in the plane. We have not found any human remains at the crash site."

National Transportation and Safety Board official Mark Rosenker said preliminary analysis of the site indicated Fossett had died in the crash.

"That information is indicative of a high-impact crash, which appears to be consistent with a non-survivable accident," he said, adding it would likely take "weeks, perhaps months" before the cause of the accident was determined.

Fifty searchers and five dog teams will fan out across the area in an effort to find remains of Fossett, who vanished on September 3 last year after taking off on a solo flight from a private airstrip in neighboring Nevada.

Anderson said search teams were racing against time with snowstorms forecast in the region. "If it in fact snows, that's going to obliterate any hope of finding the remains or further evidence," Anderson said.

Rescue teams had started combing the area near Mammoth Lakes on Wednesday after the discovery of aviation identity cards bearing Fossett's name, a faded fleece sweatshirt and $1299 cash.

Anderson said the crash site was roughly 400m from where the identity cards and cash were found by a hiker.

Fossett's disappearance had baffled rescuers who found no trace of the 63-year-old adventurer despite a massive search that involved dozens of aircraft taking to the skies to scour the region.

A multi-millionaire who made his fortune dealing stocks in Chicago, Fossett set dozens of world records in sailboats, gliders and hot-air balloons.

He famously made the first solo nonstop, non-refueled circumnavigation of the world in 67 hours in the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer.

In 2002, he was the first person to fly solo around the world in a balloon.

In February, an Illinois judge declared Fossett legally dead at the request of his widow, who issued a recent statement that there were "no further plans for additional searching."

Fossett's iconic status and the unusual circumstances around his demise have brought comparisons to the enduring question of what happened to aviator Amelia Earhart, who vanished over the Pacific Ocean in 1937.

Fossett's friend and fellow adventurer, British tycoon Sir Richard Branson, said he hoped this week's discoveries would lay to rest conspiracy theories surrounding the case.

"The positive thing is that today, a couple of stories that have appeared in the press, they'll be put to rest once and for all," Branson told Sky News television.

"Everybody who was close to Steve will have the chance now to pay the right a tribute to what was a truly great and extraordinary person."

"They're definitely authentic belongings, it was his pilot license, his drivers license, it was also a membership card to the national aeronautic association which gave Stephen an award a couple of years ago," Branson said.

"He also often carried 100-dollar bills with him so we are certain that these are genuine findings."

Rekna · 10-02-2008, 03:48 PM

Sounds like they found body parts afterall....

dlish · 10-02-2008, 03:54 PM

believe nothing!

Charlatan · 10-02-2008, 03:58 PM

I am sure his family appreciates the closure.

genuinegirly · 10-02-2008, 04:32 PM

Yep, he'll join the ranks of Elvis. As long as people believe he is still alive, they won't pay attention to news reports stating human remains were found at his crash site.

mrklixx · 10-02-2008, 07:26 PM

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Rescue teams had started combing the area near Mammoth Lakes on Wednesday after the discovery of aviation identity cards bearing Fossett's name, a faded fleece sweatshirt and $1299 cash.

Anderson said the crash site was roughly 400m from where the identity cards and cash were found by a hiker.

I'm thinking this person should get the "Johnny Honesty" for the year. I'm not so sure that if I found $1300 in cash in the woods that it would have been turned in with the rest of the stuff. I guess I'm a horrble human being. But I look at it this way, if he's dead, he's not gonna need it. If he's alive, I seriously doubt the cash would hold any evidence to his whereabouts. I would bet that they are expecting some kind of reward, but now since it's looking like Fossett may have expired in the crash, chances are all they will get is a handshake and a "thanks for your service citizen!"

Would you have returned the cash?

Bear Cub · 10-02-2008, 07:44 PM

I would have returned $99 of it. You know, just enough to make it seem like I wasn't a thief, but enough to net me a slot on Oprah.

Makedde · 10-02-2008, 10:13 PM

How do we even know the guy is actually dead? He could have faked his own death. He disppeared in September last year, and a judge declared him legally dead after only three months! I thought one had to be missing for seven years before you can be declared legally dead? Seems a little too soon to assume he died.

That begs the question, though. Lets say he did fake his own death. If a judge has declared him legally dead, does that mean that if Fossett shows himself again, he will not exist?

dlish · 10-03-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

How do we even know the guy is actually dead? He could have faked his own death. He disppeared in September last year, and a judge declared him legally dead after only three months! I thought one had to be missing for seven years before you can be declared legally dead? Seems a little too soon to assume he died.

That begs the question, though. Lets say he did fake his own death. If a judge has declared him legally dead, does that mean that if Fossett shows himself again, he will not exist?

thats nothing a bit of pencil pushing cant fix. if you can be made dead, you can be made alive. im sure that the people at the registry system has allowed for those sorts of things to come up.

like that guy in the UK that faked his own death and lived with his wife for a few years. he even kept it secret from his kids all this time.

he got taken to court. you cant take a dead man to court. so yeah its possible to bring someone back to life.

not much else on Steve in the past day or so except that it was small human remains they found.

Poppinjay · 10-03-2008, 06:24 AM

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i think he's dead. probably strewn away from the plane somewhere. hope they do find him soon so that his poor wife can be put to rest.

Here in America, we do not bury the wives of dead men with them.

dlish · 10-03-2008, 06:27 AM

yeah after re-reading that, it does sound like that doesnt it..

or maybe i just hate the bitch for declaring him dead before they found him

Makedde · 10-03-2008, 11:01 PM

Apparently they found enough remains for DNA testing...

10-02-2008, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	Steve Fossett's Plane Wreckage Found - No Body Recovered Steve Fossett the adventurers' plane has been found, except theres no body found which would exacerbate the conspiracy theories about him. This comes days after his ID and money were found close by. what do you guys think? in light of this news what do you think? is he dead? is he hiding? what's he running from? is he chillin with Tupac and Lady Di and Elvis? i think he's dead. probably strewn away from the plane somewhere. hope they do find him soon so that his poor wife can be put to rest. Wreck of Steve Fossett's plane discovered The mangled wreckage of the plane being flown by adventurer Steve Fossett when he disappeared has been found but there was no sign of the millionaire's body. Madera County Sheriff John Anderson said the shattered remains of Fossett's single-engine Bellanca had been spotted during an aerial search of the rugged Sierra Nevada mountains in California late Wednesday. Rescuers later reached the plane on foot and confirmed it was Fossett's aircraft but found no human remains at the crash site. Anderson said photos of the site appeared to indicate that the plane had smashed head-on into a mountainside at high speed. "The crash looked so severe I doubt if someone would have walked away from it," Anderson told reporters. "There was no body in the plane. We have not found any human remains at the crash site." National Transportation and Safety Board official Mark Rosenker said preliminary analysis of the site indicated Fossett had died in the crash. "That information is indicative of a high-impact crash, which appears to be consistent with a non-survivable accident," he said, adding it would likely take "weeks, perhaps months" before the cause of the accident was determined. Fifty searchers and five dog teams will fan out across the area in an effort to find remains of Fossett, who vanished on September 3 last year after taking off on a solo flight from a private airstrip in neighboring Nevada. Anderson said search teams were racing against time with snowstorms forecast in the region. "If it in fact snows, that's going to obliterate any hope of finding the remains or further evidence," Anderson said. Rescue teams had started combing the area near Mammoth Lakes on Wednesday after the discovery of aviation identity cards bearing Fossett's name, a faded fleece sweatshirt and $1299 cash. Anderson said the crash site was roughly 400m from where the identity cards and cash were found by a hiker. Fossett's disappearance had baffled rescuers who found no trace of the 63-year-old adventurer despite a massive search that involved dozens of aircraft taking to the skies to scour the region. A multi-millionaire who made his fortune dealing stocks in Chicago, Fossett set dozens of world records in sailboats, gliders and hot-air balloons. He famously made the first solo nonstop, non-refueled circumnavigation of the world in 67 hours in the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer. In 2002, he was the first person to fly solo around the world in a balloon. In February, an Illinois judge declared Fossett legally dead at the request of his widow, who issued a recent statement that there were "no further plans for additional searching." Fossett's iconic status and the unusual circumstances around his demise have brought comparisons to the enduring question of what happened to aviator Amelia Earhart, who vanished over the Pacific Ocean in 1937. Fossett's friend and fellow adventurer, British tycoon Sir Richard Branson, said he hoped this week's discoveries would lay to rest conspiracy theories surrounding the case. "The positive thing is that today, a couple of stories that have appeared in the press, they'll be put to rest once and for all," Branson told Sky News television. "Everybody who was close to Steve will have the chance now to pay the right a tribute to what was a truly great and extraordinary person." "They're definitely authentic belongings, it was his pilot license, his drivers license, it was also a membership card to the national aeronautic association which gave Stephen an award a couple of years ago," Branson said. "He also often carried 100-dollar bills with him so we are certain that these are genuine findings." __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy Last edited by dlish; 10-02-2008 at 03:53 PM.. Reason: typos

10-02-2008, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	believe nothing! __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

10-02-2008, 03:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I am sure his family appreciates the closure. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

10-02-2008, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
genuinegirly Eat your vegetables Super Moderator Location: Arabidopsis-ville	Yep, he'll join the ranks of Elvis. As long as people believe he is still alive, they won't pay attention to news reports stating human remains were found at his crash site. __________________ "Sometimes I have to remember that things are brought to me for a reason, either for my own lessons or for the benefit of others." Cynthetiq "violence is no more or less real than non-violence." roachboy

10-02-2008, 07:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bear Cub The Reverend Side Boob Location: Nofe Curolina	I would have returned $99 of it. You know, just enough to make it seem like I wasn't a thief, but enough to net me a slot on Oprah. __________________ Living in the United Socialist States of America.

10-02-2008, 03:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Sounds like they found body parts afterall....

10-02-2008, 10:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Makedde Tilted Location: Australia	How do we even know the guy is actually dead? He could have faked his own death. He disppeared in September last year, and a judge declared him legally dead after only three months! I thought one had to be missing for seven years before you can be declared legally dead? Seems a little too soon to assume he died. That begs the question, though. Lets say he did fake his own death. If a judge has declared him legally dead, does that mean that if Fossett shows himself again, he will not exist? __________________ Sun flames and moons glow, timeless the tides will flow, what will I face, what will be mine, fortune and fate the other side...

10-03-2008, 06:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	yeah after re-reading that, it does sound like that doesnt it.. or maybe i just hate the bitch for declaring him dead before they found him __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

10-03-2008, 11:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
Makedde Tilted Location: Australia	Apparently they found enough remains for DNA testing... __________________ Sun flames and moons glow, timeless the tides will flow, what will I face, what will be mine, fortune and fate the other side...