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Location: Florida
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Medical Maggotry -- Can You Dig It?
Last night my daughter and I (the 19-year-old, not the little one!) were perusing one of my new medical textbooks and looking at lovely photographs of all kinds of diseased and otherwise compromised flesh and organs. You know, one of those mother-daughter bonding moments!
![]() After looking at the book we continued to talk and she started showing me pictures of different things she had seen on the internet...bot flies, heart worms...and this prompted her to bring up the medical use of maggots. Medical use of maggots, I say? Yes mom, look, says she... And she showed me. Apparently the medical employment of maggots is a very real method of treating wounds that will not heal. I had no idea! Quote:
Apparently there is nothing new about this treatment, only that I've not heard of it before. ![]() Lots more here: Monarch Labs Medical Maggots for Maggot Therapy wound care treatment Then there's this, newer, news: Multi-tasking Maggots In Superbug Showdown Quote:
here is a description of the treatment: Quote:
Or, better yet, have you or anyone you've ever known been treated with them? Myself, I think I would. Absolutely. Yes. I find the topic fascinating in many ways. Not only as a simple piece of sensationalistic information, but also in the irony that can be found in the idea that maggots, traditionally associated with germs and filth, can be useful in making us healthy and clean.
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Kick Ass Kunoichi
Location: Oregon
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Yes, yes I would, given that they only eat necrotized tissue, and that necrotized tissue, left as is, can lead to gangrene and possible loss of limbs. I'd rather suffer through maggot therapy than an amputation.
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Location: Greater Boston area
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I've only seen that once. The patient had some nasty diabetic ulcers on their legs that just wouldn't heal and using general anesthesia was deemed a bit too risky. They used the maggots to clean out the wound, then used artificial skin to cover it. This was done at a hospital in Boston as I was working at a small community hospital at the time. The patient was admitted there over night for other reasons. The Boston hospital sent a wound nurse down to change the dressing as it was still "experimental" at the time.
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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apparently magic the gathering and medicine disagree....:P
if anything, it should be -2/+2
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Location: Where morons reign supreme
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I would be totally grossed out...but yes, I would use maggot therapy if other options weren't available/working.
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Location: Florida
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I can't stop thinking about lying in bed at night with a little cage of maggots attached to my body. What would it feel like? I haven't seen anything that describes it.
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... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
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You've meditated before, right? I'm sure that tool would come in handy in occupying your mind elsewhere.
I used to be claustrophobic. When I was maybe 13ish, I had to get a CAT scan, but the tech was inexperienced and we had to repeat the procedure several times. I had to lie still in a tube with maybe a 2" diameter for hours on end. It took me maybe a half hour to calm myself down, but after that I went into a state of bliss and calm. The hours went by quickly. After that, I got to eat at one of my favorite restaurants, Tarantino's (it's not relevant to the subject at hand, but I can never miss an opportunity to talk about good seafood). I'm sure that if you were ever put in this situation, you could put your mind in a calm place so that the healing process could be assisted. |
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Location: Florida
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I might have to do some more research...find some testimonies. -----Added 27/8/2008 at 12 : 44 : 32----- He says he didn't feel anything:
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From my understanding, during the treatment the patient is not experiencing the sensation of bugs crawling around on them. I know it has been used in diabetics for example, and in their case they often suffer from diabetic neuropathy which means the sensation would be far less than a normal person. If I were faced with amputation vs a creepy sensation that I may not like, I would at least try the maggot therapy. It is also my understanding that after they are employed they are disposed of in the same manner of any other infectious waste. In other words, they are incinerated. They are never reused from patient to patient.
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I have eaten the slaw
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Using maggots, leeches, etc. to treat medical problems is one of the coolest things ever. I'd be excited if I ever had the opportunity to experience this, even to the point of requesting it over more traditional forms of treatment. The doctors would probably have to strap my arms down because I'd constantly be removing the dressing to peek.
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Location: Florida
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There is a video on YouTube that shows a woman being treated with maggots on her foot. It's very graphic, though, moreso for the extent of the injury on her foot than the maggots...I don't want to post pictures and vids on this thread that might disturb people. That's not my bag.
![]() But if you're interested, it's on YouTube.
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Riding the Ocean Spray
Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa
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I've seen photos and videos of this maggot therapy in the past. Not long ago it was shown in one of those survivalist shows my kids watch. So I'd go for it. I bet feeling them crawling around could be ticklish. If I believed that any procedure would be beneficial, I'd have no hesitation and in fact, I'd like to watch it, too.
When I've had procedures done (rarely) I usually ask if I can see as much of it as possible...years ago I asked to see so they tilted the overhead light reflector in the O.R. so I could see a reflection of they removing a varicose vein on one of my testicles...then I had two more kids (not the same day) so it worked; when I was 11yo I watched them operate a large spike out of my hand. I like the maggot concept and hope we can find more "natural" solutions to medical problems vs. man-made & (sometimes ill) conceived chemicals. There are probably many other valid and functional ancient remedies that developed over eons of trial and error that we should rediscover. |
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I'm all for maggot therapy. I was going to also mention using leeches to help with blood clotting. I know Steve-O attached a leech to his eyeball in Jackass 2 as a stunt, and I could barely stomach watching that scene, but I think I'd be fascinated to watch maggots go to work.
It doesn't seem all that different from fish pedicures, where you sit with your feet in water filled with tiny fish and they eat the dead skin off your feet. I'd try that too, but I would have to concentrate really hard to keep it from tickling.
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Location: Iceland
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Yes, without hesitation.
It would not be pleasant, but it's certainly tolerable. I would go to the same mental place that I found when I had my last cavity filled without Novocaine.
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Location: Ohio!
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As for the fish pedicures.. want to go sometime? I've been wanting to since I heard about it in the news, and the salon isn't THAT far away... ![]()
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Riding the Ocean Spray
Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa
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....I saw/participated in my dear daughter being born in a more "natural" manner, but my last two little maggots came out via Cesarean and I watched that very closely with great interest...I even have pics of the placenta in a pan which as a doc you would know doesn't look too appetizing. Near the end of the procedure, the obstretrician (who was also a pretty hot looking doctor woman) held up the tubes with a hemostat and said "...last chance to change your mind before it's too late..." so I said go for it and cut those things or I'll not know what to do and have to live in a shoe.
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#23 (permalink) |
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Location: Florida
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BadNick, man, I'm not a doctor. I'm studying to be a nurse.
![]() But, yes, I feel very privileged to have had such a thorough look at my uterine cavity. Let alone the sight of them pulling my babies out of there. I get all happy and smiley just thinking about it.
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Getting it.
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Location: Lion City
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When I was in high school I worked at a hospital in the housekeeping department. In summers I was the relief worker that would cover various people while they took vacations. The best gig after working Emergency, was the operating rooms. I would work in the "clean" part of the OR and would scrub down the operating rooms after surgery. The result of which was that I got to observe (through the window) a good number of operations. Most, because they took place inside a body cavity, were difficult to observe from where I was standing. The most graphic operations where amputations, joint replacements and nose jobs. Eye opening to say the least.
As for maggot therapy I have seen this on TV a few times and while part of my mind cringes at the thought of the maggots on my flesh, I wouldn't hesitate to use them.
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