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Baraka_Guru 08-30-2008 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2515568)
For such a liberal country....

I'm sorry, which country are you talking about?

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As for me, I don't really get this question. I live in Toronto, and with a place like this, you usually just go about being your religion rather than talk about it. (Toronto is quite diversified religiously.) If you're a part of the Christian community, then you'd talk about it within that, of course, but I don't think I've ever had someone ask me whether I were Christian.

My response would be, however:

"My family came from the United Church, but we were raised non-religiously."

If follow-up is required:

"I'm non-religious, but I'm influenced by much of the morality of the Judeo-Christian values."

"No I don't believe in God, but I cannot say I know for certain he doesn't exist."

"I'm a humanist."

"There are many core parallels between Christianity and what I believe when it comes to morality. The same goes for Buddhism and some other religions."

etc.

Cernunnos 08-30-2008 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2515568)
Why are we so squeamish about religion in this country? So strange.

If you're atheist you're atheist.
If you're agnostic you're agnostic.
If you're Muslim you're Muslim.
If you're Jewish you're Jewish.
If you're Christian you're Christian.
Etc, etc.

What's the big deal? What's wrong with discussion?

For such a liberal country, we sure come off as close minded and intolerant.

I don't find anything particularly wrong with discussing religion in a respectful manner. Unfortunately, there are enough individuals walking around that are unable to do so and will resort to petty arguing when confronted by someone of another faith, even if they themselves have initiated the conversation. For this reason, I prefer avoiding religious discussion with total strangers, and I know that many feel the same.

On TFP, there are moderators to ensure that a debate remains civil. On the street, you can only attempt to calm the other person down or leave the situation.

jorgelito 08-30-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2515637)
I'm sorry, which country are you talking about?

* * * * *

As for me, I don't really get this question. I live in Toronto, and with a place like this, you usually just go about being your religion rather than talk about it. (Toronto is quite diversified religiously.) If you're a part of the Christian community, then you'd talk about it within that, of course, but I don't think I've ever had someone ask me whether I were Christian.

My response would be, however:

"My family came from the United Church, but we were raised non-religiously."

If follow-up is required:

"I'm non-religious, but I'm influenced by much of the morality of the Judeo-Christian values."

"No I don't believe in God, but I cannot say I know for certain he doesn't exist."

"I'm a humanist."

"There are many core parallels between Christianity and what I believe when it comes to morality. The same goes for Buddhism and some other religions."

etc.

America, Baraka, I am talking about America. I just don't get the hostility about talking about religion based on all the reactions around here. I don't see the big deal. But then again, I have a diverse group of friends and acquaintances that often deliberates and debates about religion, politics, sex, philosophy etc. I met my previous girlfriend at a Starbucks over an argument about Buddhism. Had that conversation not started, we most likely would not have been together. Religion comes up often in conversation with strangers at clubs, bars, and parties. The alcohol just adds to the mix.

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Originally Posted by Cernunnos (Post 2515647)
I don't find anything particularly wrong with discussing religion in a respectful manner. Unfortunately, there are enough individuals walking around that are unable to do so and will resort to petty arguing when confronted by someone of another faith, even if they themselves have initiated the conversation. For this reason, I prefer avoiding religious discussion with total strangers, and I know that many feel the same.

On TFP, there are moderators to ensure that a debate remains civil. On the street, you can only attempt to calm the other person down or leave the situation.

Fair enough point. I just see it as a part of life I guess. But then again, people will argue about anything. Try walking through any college campus with a view other than liberal and watch the backlash and vitriol spewed forth. I would find that more offensive than any religious talk. I have been assaulted and berated countless times when I was at college because I refused to sign certain petitions or did not support certain liberal causes etc. Liberals are very violent and volatile. Walking through campus was a like walking through fire.

Stare At The Sun 09-02-2008 09:54 PM

No.

Merlocke 09-03-2008 12:49 AM

the correct answer is:

I'm Jedi - may the force be with you. Followed by that weird grunty noise that Yoda makes, or optionally that weird sound Chewbacca makes.

That'll either send them running or bring out the geekiness in them. Plus if they try to do the Vulcan sign you now have your full right to punch them in the face for insulting your beliefs :) and getting their "stars" mixed up.


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