Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > Chatter > General Discussion


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-27-2003, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: Indiana
Texas woman gets 50 years in windshield murder trial

I know there was a thread about this incident when it happened. It must have been on the old board.

For those of you who don't remember this lady hit someone on the way home from partying. She was high and drunk. She drove home with the person she hit stuck in the windshield. Apparently he died after she got home.

Link the CNN.com article.


I, for one am happy she got such a harsh sentence. This was truly gruesome and unforgivable on her part. I am willing to bet had she called for help and this guy lived she would have done very little if any time. I'd bet she would've been sentenced to less than 5 years had she called for help and the guy still died.

The drunk involved in the accident (also in Texas) in this recent thread http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=13841 killed two and injured two (one horribly) and was sentenced to seven years. If there was ever a time to own up it was immediately after this accident happened.

I'm wondering if you feel the same way? If I remember the old thread on this incident everyone was aghast. Also, was there ever a time that you should have just come out and admitted some wrong doing that cost you more in the long run?

edited for typos.

Last edited by rs8001; 06-27-2003 at 10:58 PM..
rs8001 is offline  
Old 06-27-2003, 10:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
Crazy
 
What a horrible crime... it's bad enough that she was DUI, but the fact that she did nothing at all to help the man was very disturbing.

This story is making it's rounds all across North America for sure and maybe across the seas also. It goes to show you how fragile life is. I'm sure that buddy didn't intend to be hit, and even if he did, you would assume the person would stop and help you.

What a sick sick person to do this...I would just assume someone shoot her in the courtroom, because inhumane people like that don't deserve to live.
Overlord is offline  
Old 06-27-2003, 10:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
will always be an Alyson Hanniganite
 
Bill O'Rights's Avatar
 
Location: In the dust of the archives
I, for one, am disapointed that all she got was 50 years (plus 10 years, for obstructing justice, I think) As I understand it, the guy she hit lived for some time while stuck in her windshield. So, yeah, this was pretty gruesome.
__________________
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony

"Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus

It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.
Bill O'Rights is offline  
Old 06-27-2003, 10:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
Insane
 
yatzr's Avatar
 
she was even a nurse or something too, so it should've just come natural for her to try to help someone who's hurt. I also heard on the news that she went to a party afterwards (still drunk) and started joking about it. It's just plain sad.
__________________
Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.
yatzr is offline  
Old 06-27-2003, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
Loser
 
It's not only that she did hit him and also let him die while she was under the influence.

But also in a clear state of mind, with help from others too,
tried to burn and hide the evidence.

Once I saw this part, all doubt or forgiveness ran from my mind.
rogue49 is offline  
Old 06-27-2003, 11:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: Dallas, Tx.
It was mild especially for Texas. I thought she would at least get life with parole. Another defendant in her place would have been given a death sentence.
__________________
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by Google
bartgroks is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 02:11 AM   #7 (permalink)
I and I
 
Location: Stillwater, OK
This lady deserves the 50 years in prison. She may have been drunk and high, but if she'd just not driven (much less at night), this whole thing wouldn't have happened. And then there's the tampering with evidence... trying to dump the body in a park! If she'd just called the police after she hit they guy, she would spend a whole lot less time in jail. I think the Assistant District Attorney prosecuting the case put it well, "She could have saved him. Doesn't that speak volumes about her character? Doesn't that speak volumes about the atrocity of this crime?"
Gortexfogg is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 02:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
sixate's Avatar
 
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
50 years wasn't enough. They should throw her out in the middle of the street and let that guys family run her dumb ass over..... She's a perfect example why I'm 100% against drugs.
sixate is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 02:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
Eccentric insomniac
 
Slims's Avatar
 
Location: North Carolina
I say good. 50 years is enough to satisfy me. When she gets out (if she is still alive) she will be an old, broken woman who can only reflect on what a horrible person she was.
__________________
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence
Slims is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 03:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: Scotland
Personally I'm satisfied with the sentence... As long as it is 50 years. The thing that really p!sses me off with "First World" Criminal Justice Systems is the "rehabilitated", "apologetic" criminal released after 7 - 10 years.

Any sentence handed out SHOULD be served in full.

IN addition, while I'm against Capital Punishment on principle, I do believe that "Prison should be Punishment". No cable TV. No visits. No outside trips. No re-integration exercises. No drug withdrawal support / tolerance support programs.

While the mere loss of liberty would hurt an educated, middle class, well off person, it does not impact on (for want of a better word) scum in the same way.

Someone going to jail should be completely removed from society during the course of their sentence. This would save the prison services an enormous amount of money since the expensive parts of operating a prison (and co-incidentally the parts which cause the additional prison problems) are where prisoners associate with persons outside the prison and amonst themselves in large numbers.

Mike.
miked10270 is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 04:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
Practical Anarchist
 
Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood
Quote:
Originally posted by miked10270

No drug withdrawal support / tolerance support programs.
I agree with you for the most part, the sentance is fine, and jail should be punishment, but no drug withdrawl support? no tolerance support? ... use your common sense, then they'll just die. They get in there, start up on drugs because of various reasons, then they have no where to go! no support or opertunity to get OFF drugs, untill the OD and die....
__________________
The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

YourNeverThere is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 04:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: Scotland
Hi YourNeverThere,

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my last post. In Scotland they have a "detox" program which could be successful if ther wasn't so much drugs being smuggled into prisons, commonly in the course of prisoner visits (the sheer number of visitors, combined with the lengths they'll go to conceal drugs makes searching an impossibility). In fact it is easier to obtain illegal drugs inside a prison than outside - but it's more expensive.

The issue I have a real problem with is that prisoners approaching release are offered a "RETOX" program! No, that's not a spelling mistake. They're offered an increasing selection of drugs to take to "prepare" them for release! In that way, the newly released prisoner is less likely to suffer an overdose, and society gets back the same drug addicted offender that they locked up and detoxed a while ago!

Mike.
miked10270 is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 07:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Hitting him and letting him die was bad enough, but trying to hide the evidence just made things worse. She will receive as much sympathy from me as she showed to that man: none at all.
__________________
"Fuck these chains
No goddamn slave
I will be different"
~ Machine Head
spectre is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 07:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
Addict
 
She (it) isn't human.
__________________
Slowly but surely getting over the loss of TFP v. 3.0.
Where the hell am I?....
Showering once a month does not make you a better person.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
oldtimer is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 08:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
The GrandDaddy of them all!
 
The_Dude's Avatar
 
Location: Austin, TX
stupid bitch. she deserves this 100%.

i'd put her to life in prison if i was on the jury
__________________
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal
The_Dude is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 03:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
Huggles, sir?
 
seretogis's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle
I think we're all in agreement that this woman was incredibly selfish, soul-less, and deserves to do the time.
__________________
seretogis - sieg heil
perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost
no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames
seretogis is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 03:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
Inspired by the mind's eye.
 
mirevolver's Avatar
 
Location: Between the darkness and the light.
Quote:
Originally posted by miked10270
Personally I'm satisfied with the sentence... As long as it is 50 years. The thing that really p!sses me off with "First World" Criminal Justice Systems is the "rehabilitated", "apologetic" criminal released after 7 - 10 years.
Actually, under Texas law, she has to serve at least half her sentence before she's eligible for parole. So she will have to serve at least 25 years before the parole board in Texas even considers letting her out.

But with the way Texas law is, the parole board will probably refuse her until she's served her 50 sentence.
__________________
Aside from my great plans to become the future dictator of the moon, I have little interest in political discussions.
mirevolver is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 03:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
Psycho
 
I thinkit is really sick what she did. I watch part of the trial, and I heard that he could of been saved. I think there was a Fire Departent maybe a half mile from where it happened. Or was that where the body was found? This guy should never had died. I fill kinda of sad of the people she called in to help her out. They were stupide but they were acting as her friend. I don't know what I would of done. I hope I would of called the police.
Psivage is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 03:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
Junkie
 
gov135's Avatar
 
Location: Midwest
Quote:
Originally posted by Greg700
I say good. 50 years is enough to satisfy me. When she gets out (if she is still alive) she will be an old, broken woman who can only reflect on what a horrible person she was.
Exactly.

And a heavier emphasis on the IF she gets out - more than likely, this is a life sentence.
gov135 is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 05:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
Know Where!
 
MacGnG's Avatar
 
the guy woulda lived if she wasn't such a moron, and she wouldn't be going to jail. but it's what she deserves.
MacGnG is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 05:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Location: Baltimore
Quote:
Originally posted by MacGnG
the guy woulda lived if she wasn't such a moron, and she wouldn't be going to jail. but it's what she deserves.
exactly. oh my god...... shes a fucking idiot.
__________________
this is a signature
asdf-man is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 06:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
don't ignore this-->
 
bermuDa's Avatar
 
Location: CA
I watched her testimony on courtTV

She was drunk and on ecstacy... clearly scared about the consequences of getting caught.... but obviously wasn't considering the consequences of DRIVING under the influence, or of letting the homeless man die in her garage while she called her friend and tried to 'clean up' her mess.

She could've gotten off with a DUI, but not doing anything to help the man she hit proved her selfishness, and clinched her guilt. I still feel sorry for her, 50 years is a long time to be in prison for a stupid mistake like that; but she does deserve it.
__________________
I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.
bermuDa is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 06:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
Fledgling Dead Head
 
krwlz's Avatar
 
Location: Clarkson U.
Quote:
Originally posted by sixate
50 years wasn't enough. They should throw her out in the middle of the street and let that guys family run her dumb ass over..... She's a perfect example why I'm 100% against drugs.
She was high. Pot is not that bad a drug. Plenty of people use it, but do not do shit like this. Its not the drug, its the moron using them.

That said, I agree, 50 years is short by about...oh, lets say 50.
krwlz is offline  
Old 06-28-2003, 06:26 PM   #24 (permalink)
Vyk
Insane
 
Location: Dayton, Ohio
I seriously hope she is never allowed out on parole. What she did is vile and deserves no sympathy. I'm glad she got 50 years but I'd be happier if she'd received life.
__________________
"Courage of the heart is very rare"
Vyk is offline  
Old 06-29-2003, 10:07 PM   #25 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Location: Somewhere in the middle
All I can say is how stupid. Personally, I'm happy with her sentence. She deserves it. I think anyone would be scared about getting caught being drunk and high, but I think more people would be scared about getting caught with a man stuck in their windshield. But hey, that's just my opinion.
Steffi is offline  
Old 06-30-2003, 12:01 AM   #26 (permalink)
The Northern Ward
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Quote:
Originally posted by spectre
Hitting him and letting him die was bad enough, but trying to hide the evidence just made things worse. She will receive as much sympathy from me as she showed to that man: none at all.
She also shut the garage door so noone else could help him, and then HAD SEX. BURN HER!!
__________________
"I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy
Phaenx is offline  
Old 06-30-2003, 02:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
Go Cardinals
 
soccerchamp76's Avatar
 
Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati
She should fry
soccerchamp76 is offline  
Old 06-30-2003, 02:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: NYC Metro Area
This exact story line was used on a tv show"CSI"...The crime investigation unit tries to solve the crime thru forensic medicine, and I remember thinking what a far fetched story...Who could possible drive home with a body hanging out of thier windshield, let the poor bastard bleed to death for a day or two, and never try to get help for him? I have to feel that the bitch had to straighten up and be semi lucid for an hour or two during this whole time...She deserves every last bit of jail time.
hotdogg is offline  
Old 06-30-2003, 02:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: Indiana
Well, I'm not surprised that everyone who has posted seems not to have a problem with this sentence. Like mirevolver posted above I read that in Texas she'll have to serve 25 years before possible parole. I'm glad about that.

I also didn't realize that this happened in fall of 2001 but wasn't caught (due to a tip according to one article) until the spring of 2002. I originally thought she had been caught pretty much right away.

The fact she simply let the guy die in a way makes her crime worse than a simple accident. I have a hard time trying to compare this to simple murder. In a way I really want to say what she did is actually worse, like torture or an execution style murder. On the other hand, she didn't intentionly go out to kill someone. In the end, someone has lost their life. The whole thing is ultimately just sad.
rs8001 is offline  
Old 06-30-2003, 07:50 PM   #30 (permalink)
Upright
 
Not to add fuel to a unanimous rant but no one has mentioned that while the poor guy was hanging out of her windsheild he was BEGGING her to take him to a hospital. And she may have been high but she sure was lucid enough to pull into the garage and then shut the door so no one would see the body.

AND then she has the nerve to wail and cry in the courtroom. 50 years is too good for her. Capital punishment is even too humane. If they executed her they wouldn't do it slowly while she begged to live.
DiverDan is offline  
 

Tags
murder, texas, trial, windshield, woman, years


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:30 AM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360