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rs8001 06-27-2003 10:28 PM

Texas woman gets 50 years in windshield murder trial
 
I know there was a thread about this incident when it happened. It must have been on the old board.

For those of you who don't remember this lady hit someone on the way home from partying. She was high and drunk. She drove home with the person she hit stuck in the windshield. Apparently he died after she got home.

Link the CNN.com article.


I, for one am happy she got such a harsh sentence. This was truly gruesome and unforgivable on her part. I am willing to bet had she called for help and this guy lived she would have done very little if any time. I'd bet she would've been sentenced to less than 5 years had she called for help and the guy still died.

The drunk involved in the accident (also in Texas) in this recent thread http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=13841 killed two and injured two (one horribly) and was sentenced to seven years. If there was ever a time to own up it was immediately after this accident happened.

I'm wondering if you feel the same way? If I remember the old thread on this incident everyone was aghast. Also, was there ever a time that you should have just come out and admitted some wrong doing that cost you more in the long run?

edited for typos.

Overlord 06-27-2003 10:42 PM

What a horrible crime... it's bad enough that she was DUI, but the fact that she did nothing at all to help the man was very disturbing.

This story is making it's rounds all across North America for sure and maybe across the seas also. It goes to show you how fragile life is. I'm sure that buddy didn't intend to be hit, and even if he did, you would assume the person would stop and help you.

What a sick sick person to do this...I would just assume someone shoot her in the courtroom, because inhumane people like that don't deserve to live.

Bill O'Rights 06-27-2003 10:47 PM

I, for one, am disapointed that all she got was 50 years (plus 10 years, for obstructing justice, I think) As I understand it, the guy she hit lived for some time while stuck in her windshield. So, yeah, this was pretty gruesome.

yatzr 06-27-2003 10:52 PM

she was even a nurse or something too, so it should've just come natural for her to try to help someone who's hurt. I also heard on the news that she went to a party afterwards (still drunk) and started joking about it. It's just plain sad.

rogue49 06-27-2003 11:07 PM

It's not only that she did hit him and also let him die while she was under the influence.

But also in a clear state of mind, with help from others too,
tried to burn and hide the evidence.

Once I saw this part, all doubt or forgiveness ran from my mind.

bartgroks 06-27-2003 11:50 PM

It was mild especially for Texas. I thought she would at least get life with parole. Another defendant in her place would have been given a death sentence.

Gortexfogg 06-28-2003 02:11 AM

This lady deserves the 50 years in prison. She may have been drunk and high, but if she'd just not driven (much less at night), this whole thing wouldn't have happened. And then there's the tampering with evidence... trying to dump the body in a park! If she'd just called the police after she hit they guy, she would spend a whole lot less time in jail. I think the Assistant District Attorney prosecuting the case put it well, "She could have saved him. Doesn't that speak volumes about her character? Doesn't that speak volumes about the atrocity of this crime?"

sixate 06-28-2003 02:13 AM

50 years wasn't enough. They should throw her out in the middle of the street and let that guys family run her dumb ass over..... She's a perfect example why I'm 100% against drugs.

Slims 06-28-2003 02:58 AM

I say good. 50 years is enough to satisfy me. When she gets out (if she is still alive) she will be an old, broken woman who can only reflect on what a horrible person she was.

miked10270 06-28-2003 03:12 AM

Personally I'm satisfied with the sentence... As long as it is 50 years. The thing that really p!sses me off with "First World" Criminal Justice Systems is the "rehabilitated", "apologetic" criminal released after 7 - 10 years.

Any sentence handed out SHOULD be served in full.

IN addition, while I'm against Capital Punishment on principle, I do believe that "Prison should be Punishment". No cable TV. No visits. No outside trips. No re-integration exercises. No drug withdrawal support / tolerance support programs.

While the mere loss of liberty would hurt an educated, middle class, well off person, it does not impact on (for want of a better word) scum in the same way.

Someone going to jail should be completely removed from society during the course of their sentence. This would save the prison services an enormous amount of money since the expensive parts of operating a prison (and co-incidentally the parts which cause the additional prison problems) are where prisoners associate with persons outside the prison and amonst themselves in large numbers.

Mike.

YourNeverThere 06-28-2003 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by miked10270

No drug withdrawal support / tolerance support programs.

I agree with you for the most part, the sentance is fine, and jail should be punishment, but no drug withdrawl support? no tolerance support? ... use your common sense, then they'll just die. They get in there, start up on drugs because of various reasons, then they have no where to go! no support or opertunity to get OFF drugs, untill the OD and die....

miked10270 06-28-2003 04:46 AM

Hi YourNeverThere,

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my last post. In Scotland they have a "detox" program which could be successful if ther wasn't so much drugs being smuggled into prisons, commonly in the course of prisoner visits (the sheer number of visitors, combined with the lengths they'll go to conceal drugs makes searching an impossibility). In fact it is easier to obtain illegal drugs inside a prison than outside - but it's more expensive.

The issue I have a real problem with is that prisoners approaching release are offered a "RETOX" program! No, that's not a spelling mistake. They're offered an increasing selection of drugs to take to "prepare" them for release! In that way, the newly released prisoner is less likely to suffer an overdose, and society gets back the same drug addicted offender that they locked up and detoxed a while ago!

Mike.

spectre 06-28-2003 07:36 AM

Hitting him and letting him die was bad enough, but trying to hide the evidence just made things worse. She will receive as much sympathy from me as she showed to that man: none at all.

oldtimer 06-28-2003 07:59 AM

She (it) isn't human.

The_Dude 06-28-2003 08:35 AM

stupid bitch. she deserves this 100%.

i'd put her to life in prison if i was on the jury

seretogis 06-28-2003 03:04 PM

I think we're all in agreement that this woman was incredibly selfish, soul-less, and deserves to do the time.

mirevolver 06-28-2003 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by miked10270
Personally I'm satisfied with the sentence... As long as it is 50 years. The thing that really p!sses me off with "First World" Criminal Justice Systems is the "rehabilitated", "apologetic" criminal released after 7 - 10 years.

Actually, under Texas law, she has to serve at least half her sentence before she's eligible for parole. So she will have to serve at least 25 years before the parole board in Texas even considers letting her out.

But with the way Texas law is, the parole board will probably refuse her until she's served her 50 sentence.

Psivage 06-28-2003 03:57 PM

I thinkit is really sick what she did. I watch part of the trial, and I heard that he could of been saved. I think there was a Fire Departent maybe a half mile from where it happened. Or was that where the body was found? This guy should never had died. I fill kinda of sad of the people she called in to help her out. They were stupide but they were acting as her friend. I don't know what I would of done. I hope I would of called the police.

gov135 06-28-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg700
I say good. 50 years is enough to satisfy me. When she gets out (if she is still alive) she will be an old, broken woman who can only reflect on what a horrible person she was.
Exactly.

And a heavier emphasis on the IF she gets out - more than likely, this is a life sentence.

MacGnG 06-28-2003 05:09 PM

the guy woulda lived if she wasn't such a moron, and she wouldn't be going to jail. but it's what she deserves.

asdf-man 06-28-2003 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGnG
the guy woulda lived if she wasn't such a moron, and she wouldn't be going to jail. but it's what she deserves.
exactly. oh my god...... shes a fucking idiot.

bermuDa 06-28-2003 06:15 PM

I watched her testimony on courtTV

She was drunk and on ecstacy... clearly scared about the consequences of getting caught.... but obviously wasn't considering the consequences of DRIVING under the influence, or of letting the homeless man die in her garage while she called her friend and tried to 'clean up' her mess.

She could've gotten off with a DUI, but not doing anything to help the man she hit proved her selfishness, and clinched her guilt. I still feel sorry for her, 50 years is a long time to be in prison for a stupid mistake like that; but she does deserve it.

krwlz 06-28-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
50 years wasn't enough. They should throw her out in the middle of the street and let that guys family run her dumb ass over..... She's a perfect example why I'm 100% against drugs.
She was high. Pot is not that bad a drug. Plenty of people use it, but do not do shit like this. Its not the drug, its the moron using them.

That said, I agree, 50 years is short by about...oh, lets say 50.

Vyk 06-28-2003 06:26 PM

I seriously hope she is never allowed out on parole. What she did is vile and deserves no sympathy. I'm glad she got 50 years but I'd be happier if she'd received life.

Steffi 06-29-2003 10:07 PM

All I can say is how stupid. Personally, I'm happy with her sentence. She deserves it. I think anyone would be scared about getting caught being drunk and high, but I think more people would be scared about getting caught with a man stuck in their windshield. But hey, that's just my opinion.

Phaenx 06-30-2003 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spectre
Hitting him and letting him die was bad enough, but trying to hide the evidence just made things worse. She will receive as much sympathy from me as she showed to that man: none at all.
She also shut the garage door so noone else could help him, and then HAD SEX. BURN HER!!

soccerchamp76 06-30-2003 02:27 PM

She should fry

hotdogg 06-30-2003 02:53 PM

This exact story line was used on a tv show"CSI"...The crime investigation unit tries to solve the crime thru forensic medicine, and I remember thinking what a far fetched story...Who could possible drive home with a body hanging out of thier windshield, let the poor bastard bleed to death for a day or two, and never try to get help for him? I have to feel that the bitch had to straighten up and be semi lucid for an hour or two during this whole time...She deserves every last bit of jail time.

rs8001 06-30-2003 02:53 PM

Well, I'm not surprised that everyone who has posted seems not to have a problem with this sentence. Like mirevolver posted above I read that in Texas she'll have to serve 25 years before possible parole. I'm glad about that.

I also didn't realize that this happened in fall of 2001 but wasn't caught (due to a tip according to one article) until the spring of 2002. I originally thought she had been caught pretty much right away.

The fact she simply let the guy die in a way makes her crime worse than a simple accident. I have a hard time trying to compare this to simple murder. In a way I really want to say what she did is actually worse, like torture or an execution style murder. On the other hand, she didn't intentionly go out to kill someone. In the end, someone has lost their life. The whole thing is ultimately just sad.

DiverDan 06-30-2003 07:50 PM

Not to add fuel to a unanimous rant but no one has mentioned that while the poor guy was hanging out of her windsheild he was BEGGING her to take him to a hospital. And she may have been high but she sure was lucid enough to pull into the garage and then shut the door so no one would see the body.

AND then she has the nerve to wail and cry in the courtroom. 50 years is too good for her. Capital punishment is even too humane. If they executed her they wouldn't do it slowly while she begged to live.


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