Hot dogs: nitrate-laden poison or ass-widening deathsticks? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Willravel · 07-02-2008, 11:21 AM

What is in a hot dog?

What is "variety meats"? Why that's a response to the DoA's requirement that ingredients be disclosed on the label of food products, of course. The reality is probably not a mystery: everything from choice meat that didn't make the cut to things that one would not even want to be in the same room with normally. And then there's sodium nitrate. That wonderful preservative that's been linked to cancer. Oh, and don't forget MSG.

Do you eat hot dogs? Why? Why not?

Edit: the name of the thread is a bit of a joke. Obviously an exaggeration.

The_Jazz · 07-02-2008, 11:24 AM

I eat hot dogs because I go to a lot of baseball games. And they're yummy.

I've never minded lips and assholes. If I did, would I have ever started posting on TFP?

Willravel · 07-02-2008, 11:25 AM

I was talking about fecal matter.

Halx · 07-02-2008, 11:31 AM

I know whats in a hotdog. I eat 'em at times. Good and cheap. Got a problem with that?

Nutrition is a myth.

Cynthetiq · 07-02-2008, 11:34 AM

there's no disclosure on the amount of bugs per pound that are allowed for grains... why is it any different for meat?

I love hot dogs... red hots, white hots, brats, wursts... there excellent.

Hot dogs on the West Coast suck... Der Weinerschnitzel???? Dodger Dogs??? No diss meant to Dodgers, but Farmer John's suck compared to Sabrett's. And Hoffy? That's an okay dog... but not that great.

I keep forgetting to have a Vienna beef when in Chicago.

The_Jazz · 07-02-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

I keep forgetting to have a Vienna beef when in Chicago.

Yes, I'll have to take you to Wolfies or Superdawg. Abaya and kstp passed on Superdawg when they came through town in the spring. Big mistake, IMO.

Now sausage, that's different. The Paulina Meat Market makes a turducken brat that's fantastic, and their Sheboygan is awesome as well. And their franks are great, too. Next time you're in town, I'll try to convince you to take some home with you somehow.

highthief · 07-02-2008, 12:58 PM

Nothing better than an all-dressed Montreal steamie!

uncle phil · 07-02-2008, 01:00 PM

oh how i miss wisconsin white brats...

shoot, i wouldn't eat a raw tube steak, but if it's cooked, it's fair game...

there's been a lot of improvement since upton sinclair's day...

Strange Famous · 07-02-2008, 01:08 PM

All I know if that if anyone wants to serve me a hotdog it god damn better be a German hodog, not the crap they serve and call hotdogs in England which is actually just a bigger than fucking average sausage

PonyPotato · 07-02-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Willravel

I was talking about fecal matter.

Fecal matter would probably contain E. coli and a bunch of other nasties the FDA doesn't allow in foods (and will recall it for if found). You don't find shit in a hot dog - if sausage is cased in intestine it is rinsed thorougly, and the first thing you do when butchering an animal is remove the stomach and guts because of the fecal matter's ability to contaminate meat.

If you were eating shit, it would taste horrible.

As for me.. I only have hot dogs at parties and grill-outs and things like football games. Never at home - if I want sausage at home, I get "real" sausage or some bratwurst. All-beef hot dogs are pretty darn tasty if you've been in the sun or have been drinking beer.

snowy · 07-02-2008, 01:35 PM

Yes, I eat hot dogs. Not often, though, and I usually buy Hebrew National kosher all beef hot dogs or Sinai kosher hot dogs from Costco. I love a Sinai hot dog or Polish sausage grilled until the skin is a little crispy. The first bite is the best; the juice almost explodes from the hot dog or sausage. Yum yum. I also like to get Aidells sausages from Costco from time to time, especially the habenero and green chile sausages.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a well-made hot dog in moderation. Makes that first bite all the better!

roachboy · 07-02-2008, 01:55 PM

i wouldn't have posted the following except that i ran across a notion of official "Food Identity Standards" which help all of us rest easier in the knowledge that food object A will not mutate into food object B while we are not paying attention. so these are the Official Predicates that delimit the Hot Dog from it's nearest confusion-source, the Sausage, and from other things edible, like the Tomato, and inedible, like the Chair.

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Hot Dogs and Food Safety
Whether you call it a frankfurter, hot dog, wiener, or bologna, it's a cooked sausage and a year-round favorite. They can be made from beef, pork, turkey, chicken, or a combination — the label must state which. And there are Federal standards of identity for their content.

Definitions
Frankfurters (a.k.a., hot dogs, wieners, or bologna) are cooked and/or smoked sausages according to the Federal standards of identity. Federal standards of identity describe the requirements for processors to follow in formulating and marketing meat, poultry, and egg products produced in the United States for sale in this country and in foreign commerce. The standard also requires that they be comminuted (reduced to minute particles), semisolid products made from one or more kinds of raw skeletal muscle from livestock (like beef or pork), and may contain poultry meat. Smoking and curing ingredients contribute to flavor, color, and preservation of the product. They are link-shaped and come in all sizes — short, long, thin, and chubby.

The most popular of all categories, the skinless varieties, have been stripped of their casings after cooking. Water or ice, or both, may be used to facilitate chopping or mixing or to dissolve curing ingredients. The finished products may not contain more than 30% fat or no more than 10% water, or a combination of 40% fat and added water. Up to 3.5% non-meat binders and extenders (such as nonfat dry milk, cereal, or dried whole milk) or 2% isolated soy protein may be used, but must be shown in the ingredients statement on the product's label by its common name.

Casings
Some hot dogs have a casing, or a thin skin. If the species of the casing is different than that of the hot dog, the label must say so. For example, if a turkey hot dog has a pork casing, the label must list the pork casing on the ingredients list. If the casing is artificially colored, the label must indicate this
as well.

Byproducts, Variety Meats
"Frankfurter, Hot Dog, Wiener, or Bologna With Byproducts" or "With Variety Meats" are made according to the specifications for cooked and/or smoked sausages (see above), except they consist of not less than 15% of one or more kinds of raw skeletal muscle meat with raw meat byproducts. The byproducts (heart, kidney, or liver, for example) must be named with the derived species and be individually named in the ingredients statement.

Species
Beef Franks or Pork Franks are cooked and/or smoked sausage products made according to the specifications above, but with meat from a single species and do not include byproducts.

Turkey Franks or Chicken Franks can contain turkey or chicken and turkey or chicken skin and fat in proportion to a turkey or chicken carcass.

Ingredients Statement
All ingredients in the product must be listed in the ingredients statement in order of predominance, from highest to lowest amounts.

"Meat" Derived By Advanced Meat Bone Separation and Meat Recovery Systems
The definition of "meat" was amended in December 1994 to include any "meat" product that is produced by advanced meat/bone separation machinery. This meat is comparable in appearance, texture, and composition to meat trimmings and similar meat products derived by hand. This machinery separates meat from bone by scraping, shaving, or pressing the meat from the bone without breaking or grinding the bone. Product produced by advanced meat recovery (AMR) machinery can be labeled using terms associated with hand-deboned product (e.g., "pork trimmings" and "ground pork").

The AMR machinery cannot grind, crush, or pulverize bones to remove edible meat tissue, and bones must emerge essentially intact. The meat produced in this manner can contain no more than 150 milligrams (mg) of calcium per 100 grams product (within a tolerance of 30 mg. of calcium). Products that exceed the calcium content limit must be labeled "mechanically separated pork" in the ingredients statement.

Mechanically Separated Meat (MSM)
Mechanically separated meat is a paste-like and batter-like meat product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible meat, under high pressure through a sieve or similar device to separate the bone from the edible meat tissue.

In 1982, a final rule published by FSIS on mechanically separated meat said it was safe and established a standard of identity for the food product. Some restrictions were made on how much can be used and the type of products in which it can be used. These restrictions were based on concerns for limited intake of certain components in MSM, like calcium. Due to FSIS regulations enacted in 2004 to protect consumers against Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, mechanically separated beef is considered inedible and is prohibited for use as human food. It is not permitted in hot dogs or any other processed product. Mechanically separated pork is permitted and must be labeled as "mechanically separated pork" in the ingredients statement. Hot dogs can contain no more than 20% mechanically separated pork.

Mechanically Separated Poultry (MSP)
Mechanically separated poultry is a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue. Mechanically separated poultry has been used in poultry products since the late 1960's. In 1995, a final rule on mechanically separated poultry said it was safe and could be used without restrictions. However, it must be labeled as "mechanically separated chicken or turkey" in the product's ingredients statement. The final rule became effective November 4, 1996. Hot dogs can contain any amount of mechanically separated chicken or turkey.

Food Product Dating Terms
The labeling on a package of hot dogs may contain one of several different types of dates. Product dating is voluntary and not required by Federal regulations. If a date is used, it must also state what the date means.

* "Sell-By" date tells the store how long to display the product for sale. You should buy the product before the date expires.
* "Use-By" date is the last date recommended for use of the product while at peak quality. This date has been determined by the manufacturer of the product.
* "Best if Used By (or Before)" date helps consumers by stating a precise date for best flavor or quality.
* "Expiration Date" helps stores and consumers by stating the shelf-life or the last day product should be used while it is wholesome.

Safety After Date Expires
Except for "Use-By" dates, product dates don't refer to home storage and use after purchase. If a "Sell-By," "Best if Used By (or Before)," or "Expiration Date" date expires during home storage, a product should be safe and wholesome if handled safely and kept at 40 °F or below.

Food Safety Guidelines
The same general food safety guidelines apply to hot dogs as to all perishable products — "Keep hot food hot and cold food cold." Although all hot dogs are fully cooked, always reheat before eating. Use a food thermometer to make sure hot dogs reach 165 °F or are steamy hot throughout.

Studies have shown a high level of the harmful bacteria Listeria in hot dogs. Thus, for added precaution, persons at risk may choose to avoid eating hot dogs and luncheon meats, such as bologna, unless they are reheated until steamy hot.

When you leave the grocery store with hot dogs, head straight home and refrigerate or freeze them immediately. If there is no product date, hot dogs can be safely stored in the unopened package for 2 weeks in the refrigerator; once opened, only 1 week. For maximum quality, freeze hot dogs no longer than 1 or 2 months. And, of course, never leave hot dogs at room temperature for more than 2 hours and no more than 1 hour when the temperature goes above 90 °F.

Last Modified: August 24, 2006

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Factsheets/Hot_Dogs/index.asp

there are things that seem a bit--um--gross to me, but maybe that's because i don't eat processed foods and so most things about food processing seem a little gross when i find out about them.

on the other hand, i eat cheese steaks when the opportunity presents itself and there is some hope that the place from which i am getting one understands What Is At Stake in a proper cheesesteak.

but i digress.

shesus · 07-02-2008, 01:56 PM

I love hot dogs! Which is one of the many reasons I'm glad to be back in Chicago. Hot dogs everywhere with neon green relish.

There are many gross things people eat, like monkey brains and liver. The scary hot dogs are the ones that are already filled with cheese. Those are the ones to be worried about.

I enjoy brats, but I don't put them in the same category. They are the snooty version of hot dogs. Shaped the same, but better quality.

Jazz, I have never made it to Superdawg. It's on my list of things to do. Maybe we'll have to have a mini meet-up there.

Cynthetiq · 07-02-2008, 02:08 PM

How it's made I love this show!!!!!!

sapiens · 07-02-2008, 02:20 PM

I don't eat hotdogs very often, but I do like them. I've tried different brands of veggie dogs. They just don't compare to a proper hot dog.

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How it's made I love this show!!!!!!

That "fine emulsion" in your video looks mighty tasty!

canuckguy · 07-02-2008, 02:21 PM

I love hot dogs! Oh so tasty and easy to make but I try and limit my intake because regardless of whatever is posted or not posted they can't be good for you....and really what is good for you nowadays.

Nothing better than a ballgame and a dog....mmmm tasty. Well except if your in Boston, worst hot dogs ever!!!

I'll click that link cyn after i eat!!! (salmon that is).

ShaniFaye · 07-02-2008, 02:33 PM

I adore hot dogs, in fact thats what we are having for my bday dinner tonite. Chili cheese dogs with onions.....Dave is in the kitchen making them as we speak yum!!

MSD · 07-02-2008, 02:44 PM

100% beef and I'm there. Full of cholesterol, fat, and carcinogenic nitrites is how I roll.

BadNick · 07-02-2008, 02:46 PM

I also love a good hotdog, as well as almost every other type of sausage. I'm sure there are some hotdogs that are barely worth eating, but I know which ones I like and get those. So now I can't resist either...I'll go to Johnnie's Dog House in Wayne and get a couple dogs with the works...at certain times of the day they give you a free Rolling Rock beer with your dogs if you're over 21yo.

The_Jazz · 07-02-2008, 03:34 PM

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Jazz, I have never made it to Superdawg. It's on my list of things to do. Maybe we'll have to have a mini meet-up there.

Awesome idea. Let's recruit a few more and make it happen.

JumpinJesus · 07-02-2008, 03:34 PM

We're talking about penises, right?

Cynthetiq · 07-02-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus

We're talking about penises, right?

shesus gets the sausagefest!

lotsofmagnets · 07-02-2008, 03:45 PM

is this the wrong thread to express my love of hot dogs sold from bæjarins beztu?

Grasshopper Green · 07-02-2008, 05:18 PM

The best way, IMO, to enjoy a hotdog is cooked over an open fire while camping. I'm not a huge fan of them, but every once in awhile I get a craving.

blahblah454 · 07-02-2008, 05:34 PM

I try my hardest to avoid hotdogs. They taste okay, but the smell makes me want to throw up. If I smell a dog I want to hurl.

This was a serious problem for me at school because most of the buildings only sold fries and dogs, even walking through the building made me want to throw up. I had to run through it with my sleeve over my nose. This was especially trying as the computer labs were housed in the worst of these buildings (thankfully they were upstairs, through some hallways away from the smell).

I also try to avoid them because I don't trust what is in them. I would say I probably consume about 2-10 hotdogs per year.

Manic_Skafe · 07-02-2008, 05:39 PM

I avoid them and all types of mystery meat (especially bologna) but I indulge in Gray's Papaya at least twice a year. They only serve the all beef dogs and they're damn tasty.

What's worst about those mystery meat dogs isn't so much the taste or the fact that one has to wonder which non-choice aspects of the animal you're consuming but the after taste. Disgusting.

Sion · 07-03-2008, 04:46 PM

someone wise and famous (Ben Franklin? Mark Twain?) once said: "Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made."*

* as near as I can remember

jewels · 07-03-2008, 05:33 PM

All beef hot dogs unless I'm in Manhattan.

I do love grilled or sauteed Polish and Colombian sausage, though.

Sion · 07-03-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels

Colombian sausage, though.

Is that anything like a Colombian Necktie?

ngdawg · 07-03-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blahblah454

I try my hardest to avoid hotdogs. They taste okay, but the smell makes me want to throw up. If I smell a dog I want to hurl.

This was a serious problem for me at school because most of the buildings only sold fries and dogs, even walking through the building made me want to throw up. I had to run through it with my sleeve over my nose. This was especially trying as the computer labs were housed in the worst of these buildings (thankfully they were upstairs, through some hallways away from the smell).

I also try to avoid them because I don't trust what is in them. I would say I probably consume about 2-10 hotdogs per year.

Same with me, they make me gag. I haven't eaten a hotdog since about 1968 and never will.

Those nitrates in hotdogs and othe processed meats gave my son a behavorial allergy that turned him into an ADHD rambling, belligerent, tantrum-throwing handful. We found this out when I was discussing my frustrations with a friend who was into holistics and then her suspicions were confirmed when we ran out of the pepperoni he'd been consuming and reverted back to my good natured son.
Even the so-called "healthy" processed meats have nitrates, so he couldn't eat anything like hotdogs, lunchmeats or bacon.

fresnelly · 07-03-2008, 09:03 PM

I love a good hot dog. In Toronto we call them "Street Meet" and if you ask anyone who frequents the downtown core, they'll tell you their favourite vendor. Mine is at the SW corner of Gerrard. E. and Yonge. He's got lots of toppings and beverages and he has high turnover so the meat isn't dried out from overgrilling.

At the risk of starting a flame (grilled) war, on my trip to Manhattan I was disappointed by the street vendor dogs. They tasted fine, but are so small. Weenie even. I never did make it to Papaya dogs though.

I'm curious about the Chicago dog. I've heard that Chicagoans are Mustard purists and Ketchup is striclty verboten. Interesting.

Besides the long term health ramifications, an immediate major negative is the deep bellied hot dog burps that come later on.

JumpinJesus · 07-03-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

shesus gets the sausagefest!

More like the beenie weenie fest!

Oh, yeah!

jewels · 07-04-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sion

Is that anything like a Colombian Necktie?

Yeah, you could say that ...

Chorizo

I'd love one for breakfast with a bunuelo.

LoganSnake · 07-04-2008, 05:22 AM

The wonderful thing about hotdogs is hotdogs are wonderful things....

I love 'em and really don't care what's in them unless I notice that they are doing harm to my body.

girldetective · 07-04-2008, 06:07 AM

Hebrew Nationals, regular size and original. No weird junk, and theyre kosher.

A little water in a fry pan with dogs until heated. Pour water out and let the dogs crisp just a bit in the pan over heat while shakin around (youre lookin for that slight skin for that little burst and pop at first bite). Best with tomato, cuke, and just a tad sprinkle of celery salt on a toasted bun. But Ive been known to forego all the dressings and just eat a warm one plain. Yep, thats a good dog, the only kind Ill eat.

Ratman · 07-04-2008, 07:07 AM

Hot dogs are like new years- they're both full of things you don't want to think about, but you look forward to the next one anyway!

Lucifer · 07-04-2008, 07:24 AM

beaks and feet, man, beaks and feet

SSJTWIZTA · 07-04-2008, 10:21 AM

I only do the beef, as well. I probably eat a hot dog every other day because of the convenience, so easy to prepare. Some times, when im feeling not so lazy, i'll slap some chili onto my dogs and start scarfing down delicious chili dogs.

Usually i get MSG free hot hogs, as well. But most of the time, its just plain ole' beef hot dogs.

TheNasty · 07-04-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by girldetective

Hebrew Nationals, regular size and original. No weird junk, and theyre kosher.

A little water in a fry pan with dogs until heated. Pour water out and let the dogs crisp just a bit in the pan over heat while shakin around (youre lookin for that slight skin for that little burst and pop at first bite). Best with tomato, cuke, and just a tad sprinkle of celery salt on a toasted bun. But Ive been known to forego all the dressings and just eat a warm one plain. Yep, thats a good dog, the only kind Ill eat.

This, I either eat mine plain or with Sauerkraut and some spicy mustard.

I've never really liked hotdog buns.

Baraka_Guru · 07-04-2008, 10:29 AM

I avoid all the problems by eating soy wieners and sausages. Once you dress them up, they're quite enjoyable.

07-02-2008, 11:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Hot dogs: nitrate-laden poison or ass-widening deathsticks? What is in a hot dog? What is "variety meats"? Why that's a response to the DoA's requirement that ingredients be disclosed on the label of food products, of course. The reality is probably not a mystery: everything from choice meat that didn't make the cut to things that one would not even want to be in the same room with normally. And then there's sodium nitrate. That wonderful preservative that's been linked to cancer. Oh, and don't forget MSG. Do you eat hot dogs? Why? Why not? Edit: the name of the thread is a bit of a joke. Obviously an exaggeration. Last edited by Willravel; 07-02-2008 at 02:52 PM..

07-02-2008, 11:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	I eat hot dogs because I go to a lot of baseball games. And they're yummy. I've never minded lips and assholes. If I did, would I have ever started posting on TFP? __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

07-02-2008, 11:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	I know whats in a hotdog. I eat 'em at times. Good and cheap. Got a problem with that? Nutrition is a myth. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

07-02-2008, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	there's no disclosure on the amount of bugs per pound that are allowed for grains... why is it any different for meat? I love hot dogs... red hots, white hots, brats, wursts... there excellent. Hot dogs on the West Coast suck... Der Weinerschnitzel???? Dodger Dogs??? No diss meant to Dodgers, but Farmer John's suck compared to Sabrett's. And Hoffy? That's an okay dog... but not that great. I keep forgetting to have a Vienna beef when in Chicago. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-02-2008, 12:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	Nothing better than an all-dressed Montreal steamie! __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

07-02-2008, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I was talking about fecal matter.

07-02-2008, 01:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	oh how i miss wisconsin white brats... shoot, i wouldn't eat a raw tube steak, but if it's cooked, it's fair game... there's been a lot of improvement since upton sinclair's day... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

07-02-2008, 01:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	All I know if that if anyone wants to serve me a hotdog it god damn better be a German hodog, not the crap they serve and call hotdogs in England which is actually just a bigger than fucking average sausage __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

07-02-2008, 01:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	Yes, I eat hot dogs. Not often, though, and I usually buy Hebrew National kosher all beef hot dogs or Sinai kosher hot dogs from Costco. I love a Sinai hot dog or Polish sausage grilled until the skin is a little crispy. The first bite is the best; the juice almost explodes from the hot dog or sausage. Yum yum. I also like to get Aidells sausages from Costco from time to time, especially the habenero and green chile sausages. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a well-made hot dog in moderation. Makes that first bite all the better! __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau Last edited by snowy; 07-02-2008 at 01:39 PM..

07-02-2008, 01:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
shesus Fancy Location: Chicago	I love hot dogs! Which is one of the many reasons I'm glad to be back in Chicago. Hot dogs everywhere with neon green relish. There are many gross things people eat, like monkey brains and liver. The scary hot dogs are the ones that are already filled with cheese. Those are the ones to be worried about. I enjoy brats, but I don't put them in the same category. They are the snooty version of hot dogs. Shaped the same, but better quality. Jazz, I have never made it to Superdawg. It's on my list of things to do. Maybe we'll have to have a mini meet-up there. __________________ Whatever did happen to your soul? I heard you sold it Choose Heaven for the weather and Hell for the company

07-02-2008, 02:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	How it's made I love this show!!!!!! __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-02-2008, 02:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
canuckguy I read your emails. Location: earth	I love hot dogs! Oh so tasty and easy to make but I try and limit my intake because regardless of whatever is posted or not posted they can't be good for you....and really what is good for you nowadays. Nothing better than a ballgame and a dog....mmmm tasty. Well except if your in Boston, worst hot dogs ever!!! I'll click that link cyn after i eat!!! (salmon that is).

07-02-2008, 02:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I adore hot dogs, in fact thats what we are having for my bday dinner tonite. Chili cheese dogs with onions.....Dave is in the kitchen making them as we speak yum!! __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-02-2008, 02:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	100% beef and I'm there. Full of cholesterol, fat, and carcinogenic nitrites is how I roll.

07-02-2008, 02:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	I also love a good hotdog, as well as almost every other type of sausage. I'm sure there are some hotdogs that are barely worth eating, but I know which ones I like and get those. So now I can't resist either...I'll go to Johnnie's Dog House in Wayne and get a couple dogs with the works...at certain times of the day they give you a free Rolling Rock beer with your dogs if you're over 21yo.

07-02-2008, 03:45 PM	#23 (permalink)
lotsofmagnets Upright Location: reykjavík, iceland	is this the wrong thread to express my love of hot dogs sold from bæjarins beztu? __________________ mother nature made the aeroplane, and the submarine sandwich, with the steady hands and dead eye of a remarkable sculptor. she shed her mountain turning training wheels, for the convenience of the moving sidewalk, that delivers the magnetic monkey children through the mouth of impossible calendar clock, into the devil's manhole cauldron. physics of a bicycle, isn't it remarkable?

07-02-2008, 03:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	We're talking about penises, right? __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

07-02-2008, 05:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	The best way, IMO, to enjoy a hotdog is cooked over an open fire while camping. I'm not a huge fan of them, but every once in awhile I get a craving. __________________ "They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings; steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king" Formerly Medusa

07-02-2008, 05:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	I try my hardest to avoid hotdogs. They taste okay, but the smell makes me want to throw up. If I smell a dog I want to hurl. This was a serious problem for me at school because most of the buildings only sold fries and dogs, even walking through the building made me want to throw up. I had to run through it with my sleeve over my nose. This was especially trying as the computer labs were housed in the worst of these buildings (thankfully they were upstairs, through some hallways away from the smell). I also try to avoid them because I don't trust what is in them. I would say I probably consume about 2-10 hotdogs per year.

07-02-2008, 05:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
Manic_Skafe More Than You Expect Location: Queens	I avoid them and all types of mystery meat (especially bologna) but I indulge in Gray's Papaya at least twice a year. They only serve the all beef dogs and they're damn tasty. What's worst about those mystery meat dogs isn't so much the taste or the fact that one has to wonder which non-choice aspects of the animal you're consuming but the after taste. Disgusting. __________________ "Porn is a zoo of exotic animals that becomes boring upon ownership." -Nersesian Last edited by Manic_Skafe; 07-02-2008 at 05:44 PM..

07-03-2008, 04:46 PM	#27 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	someone wise and famous (Ben Franklin? Mark Twain?) once said: "Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made."* * as near as I can remember __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

07-03-2008, 05:33 PM	#28 (permalink)
jewels Eponymous Location: Central Central Florida	All beef hot dogs unless I'm in Manhattan. I do love grilled or sauteed Polish and Colombian sausage, though. __________________ We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. Mark Twain

07-03-2008, 09:03 PM	#31 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	I love a good hot dog. In Toronto we call them "Street Meet" and if you ask anyone who frequents the downtown core, they'll tell you their favourite vendor. Mine is at the SW corner of Gerrard. E. and Yonge. He's got lots of toppings and beverages and he has high turnover so the meat isn't dried out from overgrilling. At the risk of starting a flame (grilled) war, on my trip to Manhattan I was disappointed by the street vendor dogs. They tasted fine, but are so small. Weenie even. I never did make it to Papaya dogs though. I'm curious about the Chicago dog. I've heard that Chicagoans are Mustard purists and Ketchup is striclty verboten. Interesting. Besides the long term health ramifications, an immediate major negative is the deep bellied hot dog burps that come later on. __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

07-04-2008, 05:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	The wonderful thing about hotdogs is hotdogs are wonderful things.... I love 'em and really don't care what's in them unless I notice that they are doing harm to my body. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

07-04-2008, 06:07 AM	#35 (permalink)
girldetective sufferable	Hebrew Nationals, regular size and original. No weird junk, and theyre kosher. A little water in a fry pan with dogs until heated. Pour water out and let the dogs crisp just a bit in the pan over heat while shakin around (youre lookin for that slight skin for that little burst and pop at first bite). Best with tomato, cuke, and just a tad sprinkle of celery salt on a toasted bun. But Ive been known to forego all the dressings and just eat a warm one plain. Yep, thats a good dog, the only kind Ill eat. __________________ As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons...be cheerful; strive for happiness - Desiderata

07-04-2008, 07:07 AM	#36 (permalink)
Ratman Addict Location: Somewhere... Across the sea...	Hot dogs are like new years- they're both full of things you don't want to think about, but you look forward to the next one anyway! __________________ The difference between theory and reality is that in theory there is no difference. "God made man, but he used the monkey to do it." DEVO

07-04-2008, 07:24 AM	#37 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	beaks and feet, man, beaks and feet __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

07-04-2008, 10:21 AM	#38 (permalink)
SSJTWIZTA Master Thief. Master Criminal. Masturbator. Location: Windiwana	I only do the beef, as well. I probably eat a hot dog every other day because of the convenience, so easy to prepare. Some times, when im feeling not so lazy, i'll slap some chili onto my dogs and start scarfing down delicious chili dogs. Usually i get MSG free hot hogs, as well. But most of the time, its just plain ole' beef hot dogs. __________________ First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out because I was not a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for me And there was no one left to speak out for me. -Pastor Martin Niemoller

07-04-2008, 10:29 AM	#40 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	I avoid all the problems by eating soy wieners and sausages. Once you dress them up, they're quite enjoyable. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot