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Redlemon 04-30-2008 11:11 AM

No More Lesbians...
 
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Originally Posted by CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
Lawsuit pits Lesbians vs. lesbians in Greece

April 30, 2008

FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS

ATHENS, Greece — A Greek court has been asked to draw the line between gay women and the natives of the Aegean Sea island of Lesbos.

Three islanders from Lesbos — home of the ancient poet Sappho, who praised love between women — have taken a gay rights group to court for using the word lesbian in its name.

One of the plaintiffs said Wednesday that the name of the association, Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece, ‘‘insults the identity’’ of the people of Lesbos, who are also known as Lesbians.

‘‘My sister can’t say she is a Lesbian,’’ said Dimitris Lambrou. ‘‘Our geographical designation has been usurped by certain ladies who have no connection whatsoever with Lesbos,’’ he said.

The three plaintiffs are seeking to have the group barred from using ‘‘lesbian’’ in its name and filed a lawsuit on April 10. The other two plaintiffs are women.

A spokeswoman for the Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece said the action was ‘‘a joke in bad taste that borders on discrimination.’’

‘‘I don’t see how the word can be an insult,’’ Evangelia Vlami said. ‘‘We don’t think doubt can be cast on dictionaries ... even the United Nations refer to us as Lesbians.’’

Also called Mytilene, after its capital, Lesbos is famed as the birthplace of Sappho. The island, particularly the lyric poet’s reputed home town of Eressos, is a favored holiday destination for gay women.

‘‘This is not an aggressive act against gay women,’’ Lambrou said. ‘‘Let them visit Lesbos and get married and whatever they like. We just want (the group) to remove the word lesbian from their title.’’

He said the plaintiffs targeted the group because it is the only officially registered gay group in Greece to use the word lesbian in its name. The case will be heard in an Athens court on June 10.

Sappho lived from the late 7th to the early 6th century B.C. and is considered one of the greatest poets of antiquity. Many of her poems, written in the first person and intended to be accompanied by music, contain passionate references to love for other women.

Lambrou said the word lesbian has only been linked with gay women in the past few decades. ‘‘But we have been Lesbians for thousands of years,’’ said Lambrou, who publishes a small magazine on ancient Greek religion and technology that frequently criticizes the Christian Church.

Vlami, the gay group spokeswoman, said any misunderstanding can easily be resolved through linguistics.

‘‘Most people from Lesbos prefer to use the word Mytilene, which is the more ancient version and because some people may be afraid of being misunderstood,’’ she said. ‘‘I don’t see what the problem is ... Can’t a woman just say: I am from the island of Lesbos?’’

Very little is known of Sappho’s life. According to some ancient accounts, she was an aristocrat who married a rich merchant and had a daughter with him. One tradition says that she killed herself by jumping off a cliff over an unhappy love affair.

Lambrou says Sappho was not gay. ‘‘But even if we assume she was, how can 250,000 people of Lesbian descent — including women — be considered homosexual?’’

An interesting thought, but they're a bit late to be complaining -- from what I can tell, the adjective 'lesbian' has been in use as a sexual term for over a hundred years. Is there any possible recourse here?

Punk.of.Ages 04-30-2008 11:20 AM

I always wondered where the word "lesbian" came from.

But, yeah if the people of Lesbos were going to bitch they should've done it a long time ago. I never even knew there was an island called Lesbos.

Daniel_ 04-30-2008 11:24 AM

English school kids have found this hilarious for generations.

Halx 04-30-2008 11:31 AM

The lesbian in my office was quite tickled by this.

Ustwo 04-30-2008 11:32 AM

Its pretty common knowledge and sucks to be them.

If people in Fucking Germany need to live with their name, so do the Lesbians, unless they want to change the name of the Islands :)

xepherys 04-30-2008 11:36 AM

Yeah, I read this earlier... pretty amusing. Strange lawsuit for sure.

lotsofmagnets 04-30-2008 11:57 AM

i´m not sure how international law works but once a name has entered common use and becomes more widely recognised for the alternative meanin then i believe the original loses claim on the word. some examples that are similar but not the same are thermos and escalator which are examples of brand names which became the item itself and both lost the right to the names.

flat5 04-30-2008 12:46 PM

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BadNick 04-30-2008 12:53 PM

Crazy Greeks. I don't hear any Vikings from Homo, Norway complaining.

Leto 04-30-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Its pretty common knowledge and sucks to be them.

If people in Fucking Germany need to live with their name, so do the Lesbians, unless they want to change the name of the Islands :)

What's wrong with the name Germany?

At anyrate, calling the organization the "Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece" is a redundant act of useless, wasteful and needless redundancy as (non Lesbos, non-straight) lesbians are homosexual by defenition.

Why waste type? it should just be plain and simple "Homosexual Community of Greece" Which is non prejudiced, and includes all gays without segregating out females with an "and Lesbian". Unless, of course, they want to include all the inhabitants of Lesbos... :thumbsup:

xepherys 04-30-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick
Crazy Greeks. I don't hear any Vikings from Homo, Norway complaining.


...? Interesting...

Jinn 04-30-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto
What's wrong with the name Germany?

I believe he meant Fucking Austria:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria

Leto 05-01-2008 02:34 AM

oh ja, ich Verstehen... But still, a population of 93? you would think with a name like that there would be more. Perhaps they are all Protestants?

Terrell 05-01-2008 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JinnKai
I believe he meant Fucking Austria:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria


That's pretty funny. The part about it being 1/2 hour by car from Petting Germany had me rolling.

Charlatan 05-01-2008 03:54 AM

I blame that bitch Sappho for causing all this fuss...

Tully Mars 05-01-2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan
I blame that bitch Sappho for causing all this fuss...


Ditto

Terrell 05-01-2008 04:41 AM

How about Intercourse, Blue Ball, & Paradise Pennsylvania (which are all close to each other in Lancaster County) Condom, France, or Dildo, Newfoundland. Perhaps those places should sue over the use of their names too.

blahblah454 05-01-2008 05:38 AM

Leto has a point. Why even add Lesbians to the name in the first place?

Tophat665 05-02-2008 02:53 PM

Third or fourth season of Coupling, the guy who played Jeff the sex maniac decided not to come back, so they packed his character off to Lesbos for the balance of the show.

It's brilliant, then, i'n't it. On Lesbos, even the blokes are Lesbians!


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