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Cynthetiq 03-27-2008 07:23 PM

Anti-Emo Riots Break Out Across Mexico
 
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Anti-Emo Riots Break Out Across Mexico
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...iq/emokids.jpg
Photo: Mexican emo kids gather in response to anti-emo violence by metalheads and punk rockers.



Riot police have taken to the streets of several cities in Mexico to ... defend emo kids?

A series of attacks on dyed-hair, eye-makeup-wearing emo kids began in early March when several hundred people went on an emo-beating rampage in Querétaro, a town of 1.5 million about 160 miles north of Mexico City.

The next week, shaggy-haired emo teenagers were harassed again by punks and rockabillys in the capital, prompting police protection and a segment on the TV news. Most recently, a Mexican newspaper reported that metal heads and gangsters have warned Tijuana's emo kids to stay away from the town's fair next month.

But the so-called emos are organizing, too. Last week, they demonstrated against the violence, pictured above, and Wednesday some met with police in Mexico City.

"They're organizing to defend their right to be emo," wrote Daniel Hernandez of LA Weekly on his personal blog, which has provided stellar coverage of the whole affair.

Music-based subcultures have permeated Mexico's major cities for decades, fueled by constant migration from rural cities. But only in the past year have emos begun to make their presence felt in the streets. In response, many of the established so-called tribus urbanas like punks and metalheads are responding with violence. The emo-punk battles are reminiscent of earlier subculture fights among various factions, like the Hell's Angels fighting hippies at the Altamont Music Festival or the Mods taking on the Rockers.

But while videos of Mexican teenagers with pompadours advancing on equally baby-faced emo rockers seem like scenes from a south-of-the-border version of John Waters' Crybaby, there are ugly undercurrents to the story.

First, by some accounts, the emo subculture is identified with homosexuality in Mexico. As Mexico City youth worker Victor Mendoza told Time.com: "At the core of this is the homophobic issue. The other arguments are just window dressing for that."

Gustavo Arellano, the author of Ask a Mexican and an editor at OC Weekly, said that the sexual ambiguities cultivated by emo fashion helped set the group up for targeting by more macho groups.

"What do you do when you are confronted with a question mark about sexuality in Mexico?" Arellano said. "You beat it up."

Forum posts show similar sentiments. One person wrote on a government youth-website forum, "detesto a los emosexuales," which translates as "I hate emosexuals." Emosexual is an obvious play on homosexual, especially in Spanish, where the H is silent.

Many of the attacks have been planned, or at least fomented, on violently anti-emo websites like Movimiento Anti Emosexual, which features videos of physical violence sprinkled liberally with anti-gay sentiment. Last.fm's Anti Emo Death Squad group has almost 4,000 members.

But Arellano said he thought the riots could have a positive impact here in the US.

"It's a great clusterfuck for the American mind's idea of Mexico," Arellano said. "This teaches the rest of the world that Mexico is not just a bunch of cactuses and sombreros."
One of the reasons that I never dated any mexican girls when I was growing up in LA was because of the idea of men being macho. The girls loved when their men would show aggression towards someone to defend their affections. I find this a bit interesting tangent where in the subculture itself is fighting among subcultures.

We think that if we would just get along black, white, hispanic, brown, asian, etc. No, this shows that we just like to attack those that are different than us, no matter what they are.


The youtube video is in spanish, if you don't understand spanish sorry, solo disponible en español.

Charlatan 03-27-2008 07:45 PM

Sounds familiar...
http://www.tonupchicago.com/images/a...r-insignia.jpg

Bear Cub 03-27-2008 07:47 PM

That is a shit-ton of emo.

RetroGunslinger 03-27-2008 08:14 PM

Finally.

Willravel 03-27-2008 08:19 PM

I had no clue this was going on.

Crack 03-27-2008 08:30 PM

http://www.thecheezburgerfactory.com...CatNeedsLo.jpg

SecretMethod70 03-27-2008 08:56 PM

awww he looks so sad

SSJTWIZTA 03-27-2008 10:37 PM

Oi! Oi! fucking Oi!

this warms my heart.
http://www.officialdeathtoemo.com/emo_trash.jpg

Shauk 03-27-2008 10:38 PM

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...3355739_rs.jpg
http://image002.mylivepage.com/chunk...rry%20cute.jpg

Hain 03-27-2008 10:45 PM

Awe... EMO cat is adorable.

SSJTWIZTA 03-27-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
I had no clue this was going on.

i totally missed this.

Yeah man, punks and emo kids hate each other with the passion of 10,000 burning suns.

if you've ever hung around one long enough, you would know why.

Shauk 03-27-2008 11:11 PM

My ex roommates were emo as fuck all, I'd always feel tempted to take a baseball bat to their knees for all the bitching they did about the simplicity that lies within the most basic challenges in life.

pan6467 03-27-2008 11:17 PM

Why are people attacking Emo Phillips???? Granted he hasn't done much comedy lately but he and Judy Tenuta made a great team and he did give us ummmmmmmm yea.......

God save Emo Phillips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave him alone you bullies.

mrklixx 03-28-2008 05:27 AM

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5...nt02bysld6.jpghttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4...driversev3.jpg

Emo Phillips

Glory's Sun 03-28-2008 05:33 AM

did they pass out razorblades??

mixedmedia 03-28-2008 06:01 AM

Well, I admire these kids for taking the matter into hand and out on the street.

Go emo kids!

Leto 03-28-2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan


Exactly what I was thinking.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...1bL_AA240_.jpg


This has "Quadrophenia - Libre" written all over it. Just wait for Will Ferrill's movie treatment.

Reese 03-28-2008 11:27 AM

I keep hearing about emo-kids, Where are the emo-adults?

Punk.of.Ages 03-28-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA

Yeah man, punks and emo kids hate each other with the passion of 10,000 burning suns.

And why shouldn't we? The majority of emo kids I have met are nothing but scene squatters. They claim to be punk rock, because emo music has been labeled punk by the music industry.

Yes, at their core, punk and emo are pretty much the same thing. It's the lifestyle behind each which sets them apart, and it is a drastic difference. Emo music is a sell-out, whiny industry, whereas punk rock is a D.I.Y., take action movement.

To some, this may seem very silly. To me, it's something to stand for. I have dedicated my life to punk. It's a lifestyle I chose years ago, and I hold a lot of loyalty to it.

I'll be damned if some whiny, depressed kid is going to shit on my scene.

(P.S. I mean no offense to anybody here, and this post is not necessarily meant to be a bash on emos. I'm simply shedding some light into the thought process involved on one side of this dispute.)

Oi!

roachboy 03-28-2008 12:35 PM

i dont understand why folk with different commodity-identities take those commodity-identities so seriously.
this is like fights breaking out between consumers of crest and consumers of toms of maine toothpastes.

mixedmedia 03-28-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
And why shouldn't we? The majority of emo kids I have met are nothing but scene squatters. They claim to be punk rock, because emo music has been labeled punk by the music industry.

Yes, at their core, punk and emo are pretty much the same thing. It's the lifestyle behind each which sets them apart, and it is a drastic difference. Emo music is a sell-out, whiny industry, whereas punk rock is a D.I.Y., take action movement.

To some, this may seem very silly. To me, it's something to stand for. I have dedicated my life to punk. It's a lifestyle I chose years ago, and I hold a lot of loyalty to it.

I'll be damned if some whiny, depressed kid is going to shit on my scene.

(P.S. I mean no offense to anybody here, and this post is not necessarily meant to be a bash on emos. I'm simply shedding some light into the thought process involved on one side of this dispute.)

Oi!

I appreciate your stance, but I don't see loyalty to one's lifestyle as a legitimate reason to kick someone's ass because they subscribe to a different lifestyle. oy. vey.

And it seems, at least, that Mexican emo's are 'take action' kind of people. :p

Punk.of.Ages 03-28-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I appreciate your stance, but I don't see loyalty to one's lifestyle as a legitimate reason to kick someone's ass because they subscribe to a different lifestyle. oy. vey.

I never said I agree with beating up the emo kids. In fact I meant to say something about how I don't agree with the violent actions in my original post.

I'm just stating where the angst and resentment punk rockers feel towards emo kids comes from.

In order to understand where I'm coming from, you have to understand that for a lot of us scum fucked, street punks, punk rock is all we have. When somebody comes along and wants to claim our lifestyle and not pay the toll, it's not taken nicely.

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And it seems, at least, that Mexican emo's are 'take action' kind of people. :p
Anybody will take action once the problem's right in front of their face.

Esoteric 03-28-2008 12:53 PM

I never understood this whole emo thing, and the hairstyles that go with them.

Glory's Sun 03-28-2008 12:59 PM

this reminds me of the DnB kids vs Candy Kids..

damn I hate Candy Kids.. much for the same reason that punkofages already stated. Fucking scene squatters who ruin everything with their pretty lights and etardedness.

It's really no different than political factions fighting against each other. People are passionate about their scene and it comes out in different ways. I've seen several Candy's get their ass beat for showing up to the wrong show.. and they deserved it.

The_Jazz 03-28-2008 01:11 PM

I offer this story as proof that anyone between the ages of 12 and 25 is certifiably insane. And yes, I mean you, kid. You're all crazy.

Get off my lawn.

Esoteric 03-28-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I offer this story as proof that anyone between the ages of 12 and 25 is certifiably insane. And yes, I mean you, kid. You're all crazy.

Get off my lawn.

Whatever you crazy old man!

-throws soda can at lawn-

The_Jazz 03-28-2008 01:19 PM

Don't make me get the hose, you little punk. I've had shits tougher than you.

mixedmedia 03-28-2008 01:37 PM

Well, whatever...guess I'm just too old. Like Jazz.

'Cause as far as I'm concerned you're all 'scene squatters.' Punk is dead and emo is just goth.

Good thing I'm not in the mood for ass kickin'. :p

Baraka_Guru 03-28-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I offer this story as proof that anyone between the ages of 12 and 25 is certifiably insane.

It's actually birth to twenty-five. But you were close.

Not all of the insanity is a bad thing, but not everyone can be John Keats.

And, yes, mixedmedia, punk collapsed with the underground.

Seaver 03-28-2008 02:52 PM

Am I the only one who's surprised there's so many Emo's in Mexico?

Seriously, I lived the majority of my life in South Texas... and have never met 1!

Charlatan 03-28-2008 03:58 PM

I think roachboy's analogy sums it up best.

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i dont understand why folk with different commodity-identities take those commodity-identities so seriously.
this is like fights breaking out between consumers of crest and consumers of toms of maine toothpastes.
There's plenty of room for everyone in the sub-culture soup.

tisonlyi 03-28-2008 04:25 PM

Oh noes! Emocalypse Now!

How shall we deal with the coming gemocidal behaviour, which is sure to bring such misery upon the poor, downtrodden emo...

*adopts depressed posture in solidarity*

Leto 03-28-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Well, whatever...guess I'm just too old. Like Jazz.

'Cause as far as I'm concerned you're all 'scene squatters.' Punk is dead and emo is just goth.

Good thing I'm not in the mood for ass kickin'. :p


ya... i thought that punk burned out once Sid died and Johnny the Prophet self destructed. The Clash went World, and new wave covered the scene with mod-ular music....

Punk.of.Ages 03-28-2008 08:30 PM

Punk's not dead, it has just taken on many different faces over the years.

SSJTWIZTA 03-28-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Punk is dead and emo is just goth. :p

your dead to me now.

nah. i kid, i kid.

the punk movement is still going strong, but i guess your too old to know. :p

Tully Mars 03-28-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaver
Am I the only one who's surprised there's so many Emo's in Mexico?

Seriously, I lived the majority of my life in South Texas... and have never met 1!

This is mainly a Mexico City thing. I've lived in Mexico for going on 7 or 8 months now, Ive never seen anyone like the Emo's or punks. I asked my friend he said it a bunch of morons in DF, I guess it made the paper once here in Merida. I watch the news to help with my Spanish, never seen it on there either.

Charlatan 03-28-2008 09:32 PM

Punk is definitely not dead... it's just not anywhere near the mainstream. The point is, who cares if some other subculture is annoying. It just seems ridiculous to beat someone up over it.

Get over yourself (i.e. not anyone here per se, just those who would stoop so low as to use violence in such a fashion).

SSJTWIZTA 03-28-2008 09:53 PM

charlatan,

ive never layed my hands on an emo kid (except that one time on mescaline, but hell i didnt start it)
but ill be damned if i havnt had the urge. those kids just strike some sort of violent chord. they're okay at first but give yourself 5 min.you'll find yourself thinking this:

"HHHAAAAAATTTTTTEEEEEEE!"

Charlatan 03-28-2008 10:01 PM

:lol: I am sure... I knew kids like that in High School. They just called themselves Goth at the time.

RetroGunslinger 03-28-2008 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA
charlatan,

ive never layed my hands on an emo kid (except that one time on mescaline, but hell i didnt start it)
but ill be damned if i havnt had the urge. those kids just strike some sort of violent chord. they're okay at first but give yourself 5 min.you'll find yourself thinking this:

"HHHAAAAAATTTTTTEEEEEEE!"

I know how you feel. On several occasions I've felt like going up to one and saying "Hey, you know what'd be funny? Your mom dying!" I figure, hey, they want to feel sad and angst-y, bring it on.

Ustwo 03-28-2008 11:09 PM

Darkness surrounds me
Pierces me like the knife
I cut my flesh with
My parents don't understand
They are afraid of the darkness
Yo quero taco bell

mixedmedia 03-29-2008 03:40 AM

Well gee, I was with you till the Taco Bell shit.

You know, of course, that Mexicans laugh at us for eating that pussy-ass gringo crap at Taco Bell.

Geo 03-29-2008 03:41 AM

How many Emos does it take to change a light bulb? None, let the fuckers cry in the dark.

mixedmedia 03-29-2008 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA
the punk movement is still going strong, but i guess your too old to know. :p

Thank da gods. :)

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Originally Posted by Charlatan
:lol: I am sure... I knew kids like that in High School. They just called themselves Goth at the time.

Right. Only now they have better haircuts. Remember back then they didn't even have the haircuts, yet, because no one in town did those haircuts or their parents wouldn't let them. They all just molded their regular haircuts into bizarre shapes with gel and hairspray. Ah, the good old days.

thespian86 03-29-2008 04:22 AM

I like the picture of the Mexican kid with the red hair going over his eyes. He looks like a bull dog.

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Darkness surrounds me
Pierces me like the knife
I cut my flesh with
My parents don't understand
They are afraid of the darkness
Yo quero taco bell

hahahaha

Cynthetiq 03-29-2008 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RetroGunslinger
I know how you feel. On several occasions I've felt like going up to one and saying "Hey, you know what'd be funny? Your mom dying!" I figure, hey, they want to feel sad and angst-y, bring it on.

I thought that's why Suicidal Tendencies did the song, "I Saw Your Mommy" you know to mess with the Goth kids....now Emo kids.


mrklixx 03-29-2008 05:58 AM

Cynthetiq, you need to add "punk" and "emo" to your signature tagline. :)

Baraka_Guru 03-29-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Darkness surrounds me
Pierces me like the knife
I cut my flesh with
My parents don't understand
They are afraid of the darkness
Yo quero taco bell

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...p/icon_emo.gif You just don't understand me....

roachboy 03-29-2008 07:17 AM



no-one understands me.

Ustwo 03-29-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Well gee, I was with you till the Taco Bell shit.

You know, of course, that Mexicans laugh at us for eating that pussy-ass gringo crap at Taco Bell.

Not every post need be a serious commentary on the real life experience, I'm well aware of what Mexicans eat, but when crafting a 30 second joke, it worked better for a non Mexican audience then say yo quero cochinita pibil.

Cynthetiq 03-29-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mrklixx
Cynthetiq, you need to add "punk" and "emo" to your signature tagline. :)

added:

emo, punk, mod, rocker,

mixedmedia 03-29-2008 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Not every post need be a serious commentary on the real life experience, I'm well aware of what Mexicans eat, but when crafting a 30 second joke, it worked better for a non Mexican audience then say yo quero cochinita pibil.

s'alright. 'worked better' being relative and all. :p

Tully Mars 03-29-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Well gee, I was with you till the Taco Bell shit.

You know, of course, that Mexicans laugh at us for eating that pussy-ass gringo crap at Taco Bell.


You know there was a Taco Bell in Playa Del Carmen for about a week, it was attached to the KFC. Guess they're owned by the same corp. these days. My friend asked me "what the hell is this shit, dog food?" I told him in English "Taco Bell" means horrible tacos.

KFC still there last I checked, just down the street from Burger King, Micky D's and WalMart.

PDC went to shit five years ago, Cancun five years before that. Least the PDC beaches are still topless.

blahblah454 03-29-2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cybermike
I keep hearing about emo-kids, Where are the emo-adults?


I think as a whole adults are just slightly less moronic than kids, this slight edge managed to remove the urge to become an emo. I think they just become alcoholics and junkies instead.

Daniel_ 03-29-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Well, whatever...guess I'm just too old. Like Jazz.

'Cause as far as I'm concerned you're all 'scene squatters.' Punk is dead and emo is just goth.

Good thing I'm not in the mood for ass kickin'. :p

QTF. :thumbsup:

MSD 03-29-2008 03:27 PM

The rivalry is stupid, but I understand it since I want to beat the living shit out of every fucking hardcore kid who jumps in the pit at a metal show and starts playing Power Rangers, punching and kicking instead of moshing. I listen to hardcore, too, but there's a world of difference between the two and they're incompatible. Of course, the average person probably doesn't know there's a difference between hardcore and metal, so I'm just another one of "those people" to them. I also wish emo would stop invading the hardcore genre with the whiny bullshit.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i dont understand why folk with different commodity-identities take those commodity-identities so seriously.
this is like fights breaking out between consumers of crest and consumers of toms of maine toothpastes.

The difference is that the commodity identity becomes a lifestyle for scenesters. Emo is a way of life, even if it is a whiny, bitchy one that only lasts into the individual's mid-'20s at which point they grow out of it or develop a heroin addiction, at which point they start listening to doom metal.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
'Cause as far as I'm concerned you're all 'scene squatters.' Punk is dead and emo is just goth.

The difference is between emo and goth is that goths hate everyone but themselves and emos just hate everyone.

SSJTWIZTA 03-29-2008 06:54 PM

MSD, i understand this pit hatred. fight invisible ninjas in my circle pit and become a target. >.<
"land that spin kick and see what happens!"

you know, i think ive enjoyed reading this thread more than any other so far. Its great to see how others feel about these emo kids.

Emo Soap:
http://fetosoap.com/shop/images/razor.jpg

mixedmedia 03-29-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
You know there was a Taco Bell in Playa Del Carmen for about a week, it was attached to the KFC. Guess they're owned by the same corp. these days. My friend asked me "what the hell is this shit, dog food?" I told him in English "Taco Bell" means horrible tacos.

KFC still there last I checked, just down the street from Burger King, Micky D's and WalMart.

PDC went to shit five years ago, Cancun five years before that. Least the PDC beaches are still topless.

Woo hoo! You must have a glorious tan. ;)

Manic_Skafe 03-29-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA
you know, i think ive enjoyed reading this thread more than any other so far. Its great to see how others feel about these emo kids.

You say that like there's any real significant difference between emo/punk/hardcore/grindcore/death metal/black metal....

The only difference between "scenes" are the haircuts and whether or not your particular brand of angst claims to bring on the revolution by sticking it either to your parents, the self, the government, or religion.

Ughh.

And as for these emo kids standing up for their right to wear eyeliner and skinny jeans regardless of gender....yawn.

Baraka_Guru 03-29-2008 10:52 PM

Emo is to punk, what punk is to rock, right?

SSJTWIZTA 03-29-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe
You say that like there's any real significant difference between emo/punk/hardcore/grindcore/death metal/black metal..

no man, you just read it that way.

i really just value insights.

Tophat665 04-01-2008 06:04 PM

I can't say that this bothers me much at all. If everybody's carrying a stick, then you're an idiot if you dress like a piñata.

I get a real sense of, "Shut up or I'll give you something to cry about," around complaint rock by any name.

The beat the snot out of the emo kids, and I said nothing because I'm happy with my life.
They gunned down the gangsta rappers, and I said nothing because I'm neither a gangsta nor a gangster.
They ridiculed the juggaloes into extinction, and I laughed because partying in clown makeup has got to be the silliest thing I have ever heard.
I don't figure they'll be coming for me, because I understand that music is only music, not salvation, not a guide to how to live.
If they do come, I'll crank "Die With Your Boots On" as loud as it goes and take as many of them with me as I can.

Tully Mars 04-01-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tophat665
If everybody's carrying a stick, then you're an idiot if you dress like a piñata.

Freaking brilliant! You mind if I translate that to Spanish and start selling t-shirts down here?

Wonder if "Si todos llevando un palo, entonces usted es un idiota si usted viste como una piñata." Will fit well on a t-shirt?

JumpinJesus 04-01-2008 07:46 PM

None of this shit matters. You're all going to grow up and hear your music on an oldies station anyway.

Plan9 04-01-2008 08:08 PM

Oh, I have a big punk tattoo and I'm a tool of the man. Just like everybody else my age. I don't get to have cool shaggy hair or a mohawk, though. The man said no.

...

Something about these riots taking place in Mexico makes me think of a possible Carlin routine.

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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
None of this shit matters. You're all going to grow up and hear your music on an oldies station anyway.

I already do.

1977. OH SNAP.

ObieX 04-01-2008 08:21 PM

I'm shocked that emo kids being emo was found to be newsworthy. However, i do believe the gathering of the emos is one of the signs of the coming apocalypse.

blahblah454 04-01-2008 08:27 PM

I pretty much can't stand anyone who lives there life according to a scene. I personally love all music, mostly metal and country though. I have several friends in the punk scene who are in bands and I attend them regularly. I think pretty much everyone at the show looks like an idiot. I also love to go to my metal shows, and metal heads have to be some of the dumbest people I have ever met! With them everything is "brutal" or "grim", they can never just be normal. And emos are by FAR the worst of every scene on the planet, who decided it was cool to cut on yourself and you win the more depressed you are?

Can't people just be normal?

I play the guitar and I like to write mostly metal music, but I am never angry and depressed about it. I just get more happy and more pumped the more kick ass a riff is, the more bad ass the solo the more I grin. I don't understand all this angst and hatred involved with music.

ObieX 04-01-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Emo is to punk, what punk is to rock, right?

From what i understand emo is sorta like goth but emos are bigger cry-baby-pussies (thus the 'emo'tional) and don't always wear black.

Traditional emo hair male:
http://images.quizilla.com/L/LU/LUC/...3secondpic.jpg

Traditional emo hair female:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...hortlayers.jpg

blahblah454 04-01-2008 08:59 PM

The bottom girl is obviously not a real emo, she is smiling. Emos don't know how to smile

ObieX 04-01-2008 09:05 PM

Ahh, yes, but emos tend to also be posers that want to fit in someplace even tho they tend to shy away from most social interaction. Thats why they all style themselves the same and associate themselves with a label to begin with. This poserness is rather common in all of the above mentioned labels tho.

guy44 04-01-2008 09:56 PM

Two things I've noticed.

1. What's up with all the emo hatred on this board? I barely even notice that there is such a subculture, and I live in the heart of a very large, urban city, in very white areas, and regularly attend indie rock concerts. It just doesn't register. Where are all these people, and why do they piss everyone off so much?

2. I've read a couple things over the last few months about the supposed "macho" Hispanic culture, about which I know very little. I guess this story confirms a bit the things I've heard about how much of Hispanic culture can be misogynistic and homophobic - not that those qualities are limited to just that culture, of course...

Plan9 04-02-2008 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by guy44
Two things I've noticed.

1. What's up with all the emo hatred on this board? I barely even notice that there is such a subculture, and I live in the heart of a very large, urban city, in very white areas, and regularly attend indie rock concerts. It just doesn't register. Where are all these people, and why do they piss everyone off so much?

Whiny middle class white people complaining about how bad they have it. Should answer itself.

The fact that this occurred in Mexico and involves a group other than middle class white people scares me.

Tophat665 04-02-2008 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Freaking brilliant! You mind if I translate that to Spanish and start selling t-shirts down here?

Wonder if "Si todos llevando un palo, entonces usted es un idiota si usted viste como una piñata." Will fit well on a t-shirt?

Si todos llevan palos, entonces usted sea un idiota si se viste como una piñata,.

I think vestir would be reflexive, ser would be subjunctive, and the whole first clause would be third person plural including the object (palos). One could make it ruder by casting in in the tu form.

However "&iexcl;Muera espuma emo!" might be even better.

Tully Mars 04-02-2008 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tophat665
Si todos llevan palos, entonces usted sea un idiota si se viste como una piñata,.

I think vestir would be reflexive, ser would be subjunctive, and the whole first clause would be third person plural including the object (palos). One could make it ruder by casting in in the tu form.

However "&iexcl;Muera espuma emo!" might be even better.

Obviously you're Spanish skills far exceed mine. I just plugged it into a translator program, which often just translates word for word. As I've stated on here before my Spanish rates about a 8... out of 100. I can order food, asked prices, get directions etc... Beyond that, not much.

I should take class and may at some point. But right now I'm doing the "diversion al maximo" thing.

I still find your original saying funny.

Cynthetiq 04-02-2008 06:22 AM

After growing up in the barrios of Van Nuys, "¡Chinga tu madre, pendejo!" comes out naturally and quickly...and my spanish I don't know where it falls in that 100 scale but definitely seems like 8 when I go to Spain.

MSD 04-02-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe
You say that like there's any real significant difference between emo/punk/hardcore/grindcore/death metal/black metal....

And now, for the uninitiated masses, the "what the fuck is that?" sampler.

Punk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R11x32WoxrM
Emo

Grindcore
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XF-VhrWUUJU
Hardcore
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SUgCxVbtlMQ
Death Metal

Black Metal

:p
Quote:

Originally Posted by guy44
1. What's up with all the emo hatred on this board? I barely even notice that there is such a subculture, and I live in the heart of a very large, urban city, in very white areas, and regularly attend indie rock concerts. It just doesn't register. Where are all these people, and why do they piss everyone off so much?

They're obnoxious, whiny, and self-loathing for no reason. I'm not a fan of anyone who defines themselves by the scene they follow (seems that the people who blindly follow the trends are the ones get brainwashed when a genuinely harmful sociopolitical movement arises) but the fact that the emo scene is defined by forcing one's self to be miserable goes against what should be biologically hard-coded and stunts social progress as a society.

Bear Cub 04-02-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ObieX
From what i understand emo is sorta like goth but emos are bigger cry-baby-pussies (thus the 'emo'tional) and don't always wear black.



Traditional emo hair female:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...hortlayers.jpg



She can whine all she wants. I'd still hit that.

Tophat665 04-02-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChassisWelder
She can whine all she wants. I'd still hit that.

Dude. She's 12. (Hot, but 12)

The_Jazz 04-02-2008 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tophat665
Dude. She's 12. (Hot, but 12)

She'd better be 18 if her picture's here.

She looks 18 to me, though, so unless someone's got compelling evidence otherwise, no changes are needed.

And keep off my lawn you damn kids.

Tophat665 04-02-2008 10:00 AM

What's with the Anchor necklace. Emos at Sea? Rum Sodomy and the Lash!

Glory's Sun 04-02-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Well, whatever...guess I'm just too old. Like Jazz.

'Cause as far as I'm concerned you're all 'scene squatters.' Punk is dead and emo is just goth.

Good thing I'm not in the mood for ass kickin'. :p

and this comes from the biggest Bob Dillon fan I know.. the original scene squatter.. actually he's the biggest scene squatter that ever lived.. fuckin' wanna be :D

ottopilot 04-02-2008 11:57 AM

Is there a lot of pink-eye in the emo scene?

Tophat665 04-02-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Obviously you're Spanish skills far exceed mine. I just plugged it into a translator program, which often just translates word for word. As I've stated on here before my Spanish rates about a 8... out of 100. I can order food, asked prices, get directions etc... Beyond that, not much.

I should take class and may at some point. But right now I'm doing the "diversion al maximo" thing.

I still find your original saying funny.

Married my Spanish teacher. Sorry. Thanks for the chuckles.

MexicanOnABike 04-02-2008 06:53 PM

what's with all the UNDER 18 pictures in this thread?

SSJTWIZTA 04-02-2008 07:20 PM

mexicanonabike, way to kill it.
hey ottopilot, thats an appropriate avatar for this thread, nice.

hmm, i rlly have nothing left to say about any of this. Time for some some 70's punk and a beer.

MSD 04-02-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike
what's with all the UNDER 18 pictures in this thread?

Good point. I'm raising the question for staff discussion as to whether that rule is still valuable to us and if so, whether there should be an exception for media sources.

Crack 04-06-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermike
I keep hearing about emo-kids, Where are the emo-adults?


I think thats a lot of the point...

SSJTWIZTA 04-06-2008 08:15 PM

found this on fark, thought it would be appropriate here.

Emo oak:
http://www.news.com.au/common/imaged...5967036,00.jpg

pan6467 04-06-2008 11:15 PM

I still want to know why everyone is so against Emo Phillips..... he is harmless.

Just look at him:

http://www.emophilips.com/content/em...hday_party.jpg

mixedmedia 04-09-2008 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by guccilvr
and this comes from the biggest Bob Dillon fan I know.. the original scene squatter.. actually he's the biggest scene squatter that ever lived.. fuckin' wanna be :D

Oh, I see...:p

You know, I agree that Dylan was a bit of squatter. He was an actor. The veritable 'Zelig' of 20th century music history. He's a freakin' weirdo, there's no doubt about it. Only thing is, and it's just a little teensy, tiny thing, you know...he also managed to write a hundred or so of the best and most enduring rock songs of the 20th century while he was squatting down there.

I challenge thee to find me a latter day scene-squatter who can compare. Fucking slackers. :p

Glory's Sun 04-09-2008 06:26 AM

oh c'mon.. it's easy to find a bigger squatter who.. well I don't know if you'd call them modern day..although they are still around..outdoes dylon. in fact, dylon squatted on them..

The Rolling Stones. --should have been called the original copycats.

mixedmedia 04-09-2008 08:57 AM

Well, I suppose when it gets right down to it, we're all just pretending to be someone else...just some of us do it more tastefully than others, lol.

Stiltzkin 04-17-2008 07:39 PM

I think you don't see emo adults because as an adult, you have to work to support yourself (at least according to custom), and it's kind of hard to be taken seriously if you are emo.

monokrome 05-21-2008 05:30 PM

I would suggest a well placed grenade right in the center of the organized group of emo kids. It'd be like a dream come true.


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