Do Irish Protestants celebrate St. Pats? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

clavus · 03-17-2008, 01:17 PM

Settle a bet for me.

One of us says that it would be insane if the Protestants in Ireland celebrated a Catholic saint, given all the religious bloodshed.

The other one of us says that ALL Irish people celebrate St. Patrics Day. It's about being Irish, not Catholic.

So.... who's right here? I want to hear it from a person who lives/lived in Ireland.

Willravel · 03-17-2008, 01:32 PM

Edit: Oops, didn't see the from Ireland part.

ShaniFaye · 03-17-2008, 02:00 PM

I can check for you as soon as I see my friend in Ireland online again, its kind of late there now so I doubt she'll be online again until tomorrow

Tully Mars · 03-17-2008, 02:22 PM

I always heard in Ireland the protestants wear orange on St. Pats day and do not celebrate any day honoring any saint.

As always I could be wrong.

samcol · 03-17-2008, 02:29 PM

Irish I were drunk

uncle phil · 03-17-2008, 02:30 PM

/me wishes homerhop was still active...

ratbastid · 03-17-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars

I always heard in Ireland the protestants wear orange on St. Pats day and do not celebrate any day honoring any saint.

Orange is the color of Irish Protestantism. The Irish Flag is a stripe of green, representing Catholics, a stripe of orange, representing Protestants, and a stripe of white, representing the hope of peace between the two.

hunnychile · 03-17-2008, 02:57 PM

I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...it always amazes all the Catholics that dodn't know why we non-Catholics wear our Orange.

Tully Mars · 03-17-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hunnychile

I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...it always amazes all the Catholics that dodn't know why we non-Catholics wear our Orange.

So Protestant Irish do not in fact celebrate St. Patty's day?

samcol · 03-17-2008, 03:28 PM

man, i wish i would of known about the orange history. IT"S ORANGE FROM NOW ON!

genuinegirly · 03-17-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hunnychile

I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...

I used to wear orange... until my fiance's Irish Catholic family freaked out. They thought I was trying to make a statement. They say, "It's like wearing a KKK hood on MLK day!"

I don't wear orange anymore.

World's King · 03-17-2008, 03:41 PM

I'm sure it's the same as Jews not celebrating Christmas.

clavus · 03-17-2008, 04:14 PM

So it looks like we're all counting on the lovely and talented ShaniFaye to clear this up.

(I did not know what day it was when I got dressed today. I'm wearing no green. I'm wearing orange. Hmmm....)

Sion · 03-17-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by genuinegirly

I used to wear orange... until my fiance's Irish Catholic family freaked out. They thought I was trying to make a statement. They say, "It's like wearing a KKK hood on MLK day!"

I don't wear orange anymore.

what if you wore a green shirt with an orange stripe?

roachboy · 03-17-2008, 04:26 PM

criminy--i forgot about this goofball holiday. and somewhere in my background there apparently lurks some irish--but it turns out that i'm wearing a green shirt (by accident), a sweatshirt with orange piping, a black t-shirt and will be wearing a tan jacket when i go out.

so that's green orange AND black and tan (the colors of cromwell's army that massacred the irish in great number in the 17th century).

if i was in south boston dressed like this, i'd get beat up.

ShaniFaye · 03-17-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clavus

So it looks like we're all counting on the lovely and talented ShaniFaye to clear this up.

(I did not know what day it was when I got dressed today. I'm wearing no green. I'm wearing orange. Hmmm....)

lol I've sent her an email....so as soon as she answers I will let you know if no one else has answered it for you

Halx · 03-17-2008, 05:25 PM

Hah. Symbolism: A good excuse to get pissed off.

ratbastid · 03-17-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by roachboy

black and tan (the colors of cromwell's army that massacred the irish in great number in the 17th century).

(Also a very appropriate St. Pattie's Day beverage!)

Redlemon · 03-18-2008, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clavus

Settle a bet for me.

One of us says that it would be insane if the Protestants in Ireland celebrated a Catholic saint, given all the religious bloodshed.

The other one of us says that ALL Irish people celebrate St. Patrics Day. It's about being Irish, not Catholic.

So.... who's right here? I want to hear it from a person who lives/lived in Ireland.

Keep in mind that "celebration of St. Patrick's day" in Ireland means "go to church". It is not a "drink and parade and drink" holiday - that's just in the United States.

Ustwo · 03-18-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Keep in mind that "celebration of St. Patrick's day" in Ireland means "go to church". It is not a "drink and parade and drink" holiday - that's just in the United States.

From what I've read, the 'US style' of celebration has migrated to Ireland in several cities.

ottopilot · 03-18-2008, 07:20 AM

I wonder if most know that Maewyn Succat was a slave captured from Britain. Not really Irish at all.

Ustwo · 03-18-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot

I wonder if most know that Maewyn Succat was a slave captured from Britain. Not really Irish at all.

I'm pretty sure most in Ireland would know.

He escaped from slavery, and then returned to Ireland after his religious education. His time as a slave let him learn the language/customs and then he spent 30 years converting the Irish.

ShaniFaye · 03-19-2008, 11:13 AM

this was her answer:

Well you are both partly right to the St Pats question

There are SOME Irish Protestants that celebrate St Patrick's Day in the Republic and think that is a question of idenity
In the North it has been known to spark riots and bloodshed and be as contentious as the Marching Season
So in the Republic of Ireland both Church of Ireland and Catholics celebrate it in Northern Ireland it can be a thorny issue

clavus · 03-19-2008, 01:01 PM

Thanks. I'll tear the ten in half.

homerhop · 03-19-2008, 02:43 PM

No Protestants do no celebrate St Patricks day here. Its classed as a Nationalist/ Republican celebration. The younger Protestants might go out on the beer since it is a national holiday but I do know that if you wish the older generation a ahappy St Patricks day they will tell you straight out they do not celebrate that day.

uncle phil · 03-19-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homerhop

No Protestants do no celebrate St Patricks day here. Its classed as a Nationalist/ Republican celebration. The younger Protestants might go out on the beer since it is a national holiday but I do know that if you wish the older generation a ahappy St Patricks day they will tell you straight out they do not celebrate that day.

homer, thanks for showing up...

i miss ya, buddy...

Tophat665 · 03-20-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

Orange is the color of Irish Protestantism. The Irish Flag is a stripe of green, representing Catholics, a stripe of orange, representing Protestants, and a stripe of white, representing the hope of peace between the two.

I thought the White Stripe was for the French.

/ Pretty sure Northern Irish Protestants wear orange on St. Pats.

03-17-2008, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	Do Irish Protestants celebrate St. Pats? Settle a bet for me. One of us says that it would be insane if the Protestants in Ireland celebrated a Catholic saint, given all the religious bloodshed. The other one of us says that ALL Irish people celebrate St. Patrics Day. It's about being Irish, not Catholic. So.... who's right here? I want to hear it from a person who lives/lived in Ireland. __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

03-17-2008, 02:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I can check for you as soon as I see my friend in Ireland online again, its kind of late there now so I doubt she'll be online again until tomorrow __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-17-2008, 02:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I always heard in Ireland the protestants wear orange on St. Pats day and do not celebrate any day honoring any saint. As always I could be wrong. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

03-17-2008, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
samcol Junkie Location: Indiana	Irish I were drunk __________________ It's time for the president to hand over his nobel peace prize.

03-17-2008, 02:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	/me wishes homerhop was still active... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

03-17-2008, 01:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Edit: Oops, didn't see the from Ireland part.

03-17-2008, 02:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...it always amazes all the Catholics that dodn't know why we non-Catholics wear our Orange. __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

03-17-2008, 03:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
samcol Junkie Location: Indiana	man, i wish i would of known about the orange history. IT"S ORANGE FROM NOW ON! __________________ It's time for the president to hand over his nobel peace prize.

03-17-2008, 03:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	I'm sure it's the same as Jews not celebrating Christmas. __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

03-17-2008, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	So it looks like we're all counting on the lovely and talented ShaniFaye to clear this up. (I did not know what day it was when I got dressed today. I'm wearing no green. I'm wearing orange. Hmmm....) __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

03-17-2008, 04:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	criminy--i forgot about this goofball holiday. and somewhere in my background there apparently lurks some irish--but it turns out that i'm wearing a green shirt (by accident), a sweatshirt with orange piping, a black t-shirt and will be wearing a tan jacket when i go out. so that's green orange AND black and tan (the colors of cromwell's army that massacred the irish in great number in the 17th century). if i was in south boston dressed like this, i'd get beat up. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

03-17-2008, 05:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Hah. Symbolism: A good excuse to get pissed off. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

03-18-2008, 07:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
ottopilot let me be clear Location: Waddy Peytona	I wonder if most know that Maewyn Succat was a slave captured from Britain. Not really Irish at all. __________________ "It rubs the lotion on Buffy, Jodi and Mr. French's skin" - Uncle Bill from Buffalo

03-19-2008, 11:13 AM	#23 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	this was her answer: Well you are both partly right to the St Pats question There are SOME Irish Protestants that celebrate St Patrick's Day in the Republic and think that is a question of idenity In the North it has been known to spark riots and bloodshed and be as contentious as the Marching Season So in the Republic of Ireland both Church of Ireland and Catholics celebrate it in Northern Ireland it can be a thorny issue __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-19-2008, 01:01 PM	#24 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	Thanks. I'll tear the ten in half. __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

03-19-2008, 02:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
homerhop Insane Location: ÉIRE	No Protestants do no celebrate St Patricks day here. Its classed as a Nationalist/ Republican celebration. The younger Protestants might go out on the beer since it is a national holiday but I do know that if you wish the older generation a ahappy St Patricks day they will tell you straight out they do not celebrate that day. __________________ its evolution baby Last edited by homerhop; 03-19-2008 at 02:51 PM..