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clavus 03-17-2008 01:17 PM

Do Irish Protestants celebrate St. Pats?
 
Settle a bet for me.

One of us says that it would be insane if the Protestants in Ireland celebrated a Catholic saint, given all the religious bloodshed.

The other one of us says that ALL Irish people celebrate St. Patrics Day. It's about being Irish, not Catholic.

So.... who's right here? I want to hear it from a person who lives/lived in Ireland.

Willravel 03-17-2008 01:32 PM

Edit: Oops, didn't see the from Ireland part.

ShaniFaye 03-17-2008 02:00 PM

I can check for you as soon as I see my friend in Ireland online again, its kind of late there now so I doubt she'll be online again until tomorrow

Tully Mars 03-17-2008 02:22 PM

I always heard in Ireland the protestants wear orange on St. Pats day and do not celebrate any day honoring any saint.

As always I could be wrong.

samcol 03-17-2008 02:29 PM

Irish I were drunk

uncle phil 03-17-2008 02:30 PM

/me wishes homerhop was still active...

ratbastid 03-17-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I always heard in Ireland the protestants wear orange on St. Pats day and do not celebrate any day honoring any saint.

Orange is the color of Irish Protestantism. The Irish Flag is a stripe of green, representing Catholics, a stripe of orange, representing Protestants, and a stripe of white, representing the hope of peace between the two.

hunnychile 03-17-2008 02:57 PM

I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...it always amazes all the Catholics that dodn't know why we non-Catholics wear our Orange.

Tully Mars 03-17-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunnychile
I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...it always amazes all the Catholics that dodn't know why we non-Catholics wear our Orange.


So Protestant Irish do not in fact celebrate St. Patty's day?

samcol 03-17-2008 03:28 PM

man, i wish i would of known about the orange history. IT"S ORANGE FROM NOW ON!

genuinegirly 03-17-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunnychile
I proudly wore orange today as I am Protestant and I have a wee bit of Irish blood in me...

I used to wear orange... until my fiance's Irish Catholic family freaked out. They thought I was trying to make a statement. They say, "It's like wearing a KKK hood on MLK day!"

I don't wear orange anymore.

World's King 03-17-2008 03:41 PM

I'm sure it's the same as Jews not celebrating Christmas.

clavus 03-17-2008 04:14 PM

So it looks like we're all counting on the lovely and talented ShaniFaye to clear this up.

(I did not know what day it was when I got dressed today. I'm wearing no green. I'm wearing orange. Hmmm....)

Sion 03-17-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genuinegirly
I used to wear orange... until my fiance's Irish Catholic family freaked out. They thought I was trying to make a statement. They say, "It's like wearing a KKK hood on MLK day!"

I don't wear orange anymore.


what if you wore a green shirt with an orange stripe?

roachboy 03-17-2008 04:26 PM

criminy--i forgot about this goofball holiday. and somewhere in my background there apparently lurks some irish--but it turns out that i'm wearing a green shirt (by accident), a sweatshirt with orange piping, a black t-shirt and will be wearing a tan jacket when i go out.

so that's green orange AND black and tan (the colors of cromwell's army that massacred the irish in great number in the 17th century).

if i was in south boston dressed like this, i'd get beat up.

ShaniFaye 03-17-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clavus
So it looks like we're all counting on the lovely and talented ShaniFaye to clear this up.

(I did not know what day it was when I got dressed today. I'm wearing no green. I'm wearing orange. Hmmm....)

lol I've sent her an email....so as soon as she answers I will let you know if no one else has answered it for you

Halx 03-17-2008 05:25 PM

Hah. Symbolism: A good excuse to get pissed off.

ratbastid 03-17-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy
black and tan (the colors of cromwell's army that massacred the irish in great number in the 17th century).

(Also a very appropriate St. Pattie's Day beverage!)

Redlemon 03-18-2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clavus
Settle a bet for me.

One of us says that it would be insane if the Protestants in Ireland celebrated a Catholic saint, given all the religious bloodshed.

The other one of us says that ALL Irish people celebrate St. Patrics Day. It's about being Irish, not Catholic.

So.... who's right here? I want to hear it from a person who lives/lived in Ireland.

Keep in mind that "celebration of St. Patrick's day" in Ireland means "go to church". It is not a "drink and parade and drink" holiday - that's just in the United States.

Ustwo 03-18-2008 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
Keep in mind that "celebration of St. Patrick's day" in Ireland means "go to church". It is not a "drink and parade and drink" holiday - that's just in the United States.

From what I've read, the 'US style' of celebration has migrated to Ireland in several cities.

ottopilot 03-18-2008 07:20 AM

I wonder if most know that Maewyn Succat was a slave captured from Britain. Not really Irish at all.

Ustwo 03-18-2008 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopilot
I wonder if most know that Maewyn Succat was a slave captured from Britain. Not really Irish at all.

I'm pretty sure most in Ireland would know.

He escaped from slavery, and then returned to Ireland after his religious education. His time as a slave let him learn the language/customs and then he spent 30 years converting the Irish.

ShaniFaye 03-19-2008 11:13 AM

this was her answer:

Well you are both partly right to the St Pats question

There are SOME Irish Protestants that celebrate St Patrick's Day in the Republic and think that is a question of idenity
In the North it has been known to spark riots and bloodshed and be as contentious as the Marching Season
So in the Republic of Ireland both Church of Ireland and Catholics celebrate it in Northern Ireland it can be a thorny issue

clavus 03-19-2008 01:01 PM

Thanks. I'll tear the ten in half.

homerhop 03-19-2008 02:43 PM

No Protestants do no celebrate St Patricks day here. Its classed as a Nationalist/ Republican celebration. The younger Protestants might go out on the beer since it is a national holiday but I do know that if you wish the older generation a ahappy St Patricks day they will tell you straight out they do not celebrate that day.

uncle phil 03-19-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homerhop
No Protestants do no celebrate St Patricks day here. Its classed as a Nationalist/ Republican celebration. The younger Protestants might go out on the beer since it is a national holiday but I do know that if you wish the older generation a ahappy St Patricks day they will tell you straight out they do not celebrate that day.

homer, thanks for showing up...

i miss ya, buddy...

Tophat665 03-20-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid
Orange is the color of Irish Protestantism. The Irish Flag is a stripe of green, representing Catholics, a stripe of orange, representing Protestants, and a stripe of white, representing the hope of peace between the two.

I thought the White Stripe was for the French.

/ Pretty sure Northern Irish Protestants wear orange on St. Pats.


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