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Old 01-20-2008, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Where do you get your news?

i did a few searches and couldn't find anything on where everyone gets there news from, so i thought i would ask?

im finding it harder almost everyday to find any news on tv that i really care about, i mean who really cares what brittany spears and lindsey lohan are doing on a daily basis? so ive been trying to find good place online for a while now and found a few places that are decent like digg and usnews. i still watch MSNBC and FOX cant really get into CNN, but i know there has to be better places around so if you know of any i would like to know.
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i did a few searches and couldn't find anything on where everyone gets there news from, so i thought i would ask?

im finding it harder almost everyday to find any news on tv that i really care about, i mean who really cares what brittany spears and lindsey lohan are doing on a daily basis? so ive been trying to find good place online for a while now and found a few places that are decent like digg and usnews. i still watch MSNBC and FOX cant really get into CNN, but i know there has to be better places around so if you know of any i would like to know.
I feel like if I hear, watch or read one more "F'ing" Brittney, Paris or Lindsey story I'm going to jump out the nearest window. I guess it's good I live in a single story home.

If Fox tilts any farther to the right I think it's possible the earth may spin completely off it's axis. It seems like there was a time they made more of an effort to be more covert. Now they openly, IMO, tilt right. MSNBC seems to be getting more liberal by the day. But after 7 yrs. of Bush and Co. I much prefer Oldbermann's spin to that of Chris Wallace. But they're both spinning, simply in different directions.

I've been watching more and more BBC and CBC (Canadian) lately. I've tried C-Span but that's kind of like watching paint dry.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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BBC online is my news of choice. Firefox has a drop down button with links to their most recent news articles.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For general news services on the web try
  • United Press International
  • Reuters
  • Associated Press International
  • Breitbart.com (part of Reuters)
These are usually where the networks pick up their stories. Out of the 20 or so news items seen on TV each day, several hundred other stories come through these sources every day. TV news is targeted for audience demographics, marketshare, ad revenues, etc. Basically info-tainment.

Beyond news stories, The Drudge Report has links to several well known columnists from all political stripes.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For general news services on the web try
  • United Press International
  • Reuters
  • Associated Press International
  • Breitbart.com (part of Reuters)
These are usually where the networks pick up their stories. Out of the 20 or so news items seen on TV each day, several hundred other stories come through these sources every day. TV news is targeted for audience demographics, marketshare, ad revenues, etc. Basically info-tainment.

Beyond news stories, The Drudge Report has links to several well known columnists from all political stripes.
Well said.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The Onion.

It's about as reliable and unbiased as most other news sources nowadays.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i read the morning newspaper, watch the morning local and world news on television, and watch the evening local and world news on television. basically it's the same stuff AP and UPI feed the internet sites. i then use my brain and my life's experiences to formulate what opinions i have on current events. i have absolutely no desire to get caught up in the o'reilly/coulter/van impe/limbaugh world of weirdos and whack-jobs...
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've tried to break my cnn.com habit, especially since it just has way too much trash on its front page .. but old habits are hard to break.

I use their rss feed. Wired Magazine Top Stories has a good rss feed too.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i read www.rawstory.com

www.digg.com and digg will take me all over the place.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I get about 90% of my news from reading articles right here. I rarely listen to the news on radio and even rarer do I watch TV. The only time I sit in front of the TV is to watch a dvd, vhs or watch a TV show that I downloaded, so I get no direct feed TV.

I also don't read print news unless there is a paper lying around, then I will generally glance at the first 3 pages or so.
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I read the local paper on the bus on the way into town and I parse the Toronto papers via Google News.

I rarely watch TV news anymore, though if I do, I watch BBC World rather than Channel News Asia or CNN.
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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i dont regard american television as an information source--i see it more as an ideological relay, an opinion management tool that is particularly seductive and problematic because the footage broadcast gives the illusion that the infotainment you get is derived from, comments on and feeds back into a world that is coherently presented to you by way of that imagery.
but it is obvious at every point that there is NO depth to it.
there is no context---and without context, there is no meaningful information.
24/7 cable news outlets oscillate between being-reactive and providing interpretations that are about aligning the range of "acceptable" opinion with the superficiality of the content presented. this so that you can assure yourself that by reacting to a reactive medium, you are "staying informed" enough to keep you watching through the infotainment segments until the commercials come. and it is self-evident that in a commercial television context, what matters are that commercials.

say something big blows up--you know, explodes. like a building or a city block. if you want to see the hole, television can help you. if you want to understand why it happened, and if the explanation for it runs beyond "a sewage line exploded" or some such, television won't help you. and if you are trying to figure out a political action, it actively gets in the way.

american television is a joke.

this is a choice.
there's money to be made and chumps to be had.

i operate at a lag.
depending on the issue, i will cruise around within a matrix of sources.
for running infotainment,

www.guardian.co.uk
www.lemonde.fr
www.liberation.fr
www.washingtonpost.com
www.nyt.com

for deeper coverage of political questions, le monde diplomatique is quite good.
i sometimes listen to bbc
there are some other radio shows i'll check out from time to time.

beyond that, what i read is a function of what the issue at hand happens to be.
it helps to know how to research: it speeds things up.
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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BBC, NPR with a grain of salt in recent years, Pacifica News, U of Penn radio. TV "news" is a total loss, all show biz and advertising driven. I scan the Philadelphia Inquirer and NY Times and from all these sources I try to piece together what to believe.
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I still use fark.

hey,
I found the TFP there, so it's not that bad.
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've pretty much stopped caring whats in the "news" because 99% of it is crap. 1 or 2 things may slightly interest me on my ISP's home page that i customized to block out a lot of the crap.. so unless its a natural disaster or something major like that its blocked out. I dont care what britney spears or hillary clinton did today.

oh hey.. did you hear? hillary clinton and chelsea went to the same church?! zomg!
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Old 01-20-2008, 03:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/
http://www.peakoil.com/forums.html
http://www.peakoilstore.com/forum/index.php
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http://cryptogon.com/
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/

I do not believe everything from all these sites. But there is more there than the usual CNN,BBC news site
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:48 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I read the local paper, but really is for *local* stuff only.

I watch the ABC news (http://www.abc.net.au), that would be in Australia, before you think it is that other ABC . Government owned like the BBC in UK - fairly balanced news with a fairly distinct lack of whatever Paris Hilton is doing (though getting put in prison was still deemed newsworthy...)

I read the Sydney Morning Herald online, but I have to say I spent more time in the sport section than anywhere else (c'mon I'm an Aussie - sport IS life). http://www.smh.com.au
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I do not watch television news at all anymore. I get my news from the internet: BBC & MSN chiefly. And I read The Economist when I can afford it.
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/forumdisplay.php?f=38

...for true stories difficult to find anywhere else.

I avoid these sources:

www.foxnews.com
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Old 01-20-2008, 06:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The Beeb for world and British news.

The Star for local Toronto and Canadian news.

Occasionally CNN for disaster reporting a la Katrina, tsunami, Operation Fuck the Middle East, etc.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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on tv, local cable news. read the local papers on-line.
pretty much avoid the news. too depressing.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Interesting but expected how many pick the news sources that match their ideological flavor.

Perhaps it should be better asked, 'Where do you go to hear what you want to hear about as news' because thats what it has become.

I've gone from a news junky to a 'did we bomb anyone and did anyone bomb us today' sort of caring. Dow Up Dow Down, teaches fucking their students, doom and gloom, blah blah blah. Oddly not much has changed in my life since I gave up my news junky nature, nor the world.

Being informed is great, everyone should be informed, but there is a limit to its usefulness and obviously in some its become unhealthy, the religion they are lacking.

When I find something that interests me intellectually or has some potential direct effect on my life, I use pretty much every source available.

The mainstream American press tends be a bit vapid and lacking in detail. On any technical story you can tell the person writing has very little knowledge of the subject matter, they were told the information, wrote it down, and made mistakes along the way. The European press seems a bit more detailed, willing to give longer explanations but the bias in the European press tends to be unabashed. I focus on the UK publications as they are oddly easier to read for me. If its political and in the Guardian, its going to be a left wing slant pretty much every time, at least when I've looked, likewise if its in the Telegraph, its going to be a right wing slant. There isn't the blurring of bias we demand in the US, its right in front of you there.

As such I try to find as many sources as I can (the power of google) and I'll even go into other forums and blogs. Often you can get better insight from someones blog or a university publication, than from the 'official' news.

But the key as always is to work out what makes sense, but not be so arrogant in your interpretation that there isn't wiggle room, you weren't there after all. In my limited dealings with the press in my life, I'm always amazed on just how wrong they get most of the stories I've been a first hand witness too. I have been given little faith that this trend isn't true to the industry as a whole. Sloth, incompetence, stupidity, and getting it in on time seem to be the golden rules, and they can find an "expert" to say just about anything so you can only trust yourself. Sadly some people shouldn't trust themselves so it can get complicated. Most of those people tend to post about their opinions on the news.

So for today, I don't know anything that happened in the world outside of who won the football games, I don't know where Britiny Spears is or what crazy thing she did, I don't know what little minority girl was left to freeze to death in Chicago somewhere by her mother, I don't know about just how horrible THIS cold spell was over the last one, and I feel fine.

When I need to know I can find it all a lot faster on my own, without the wise looking male anchor, the hot looking female one, the proper minority ratios in the news room, and with the ability to sift through the bias of the editor.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i did a few searches and couldn't find anything on where everyone gets there news from, so i thought i would ask?

im finding it harder almost everyday to find any news on tv that i really care about, i mean who really cares what brittany spears and lindsey lohan are doing on a daily basis? so ive been trying to find good place online for a while now and found a few places that are decent like digg and usnews. i still watch MSNBC and FOX cant really get into CNN, but i know there has to be better places around so if you know of any i would like to know.
I "shoot the shit" with people to get news....

Sorry, inside joke for myself. I started this new job last week and its just one catch phrase that stuck out that my boss says all the time (I thought about adopting it)

Funny enough also, there is this girl at my job that logs on to that perezhilton website... and... yeah, who does... she does... why?

I actually asked - received an answer of "I think it's hilarious" - I want to ask again today at work. As for me, I have been ready to move for the past year, sold my TV, and have watched probably a total of 10 hours of TV in 2007.... wow!
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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when i wantto get 'the other side' i go to www.whatreallyhappened.com

i also use www.newstrove.com as a search engine which will give you many articles from many sources about a particular story

i think its important to go and read both sides of the story. that way a balanced story wont get you leaning either way.

ive learnt from experience that going to certain sites can skew your view on how you view news.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
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...i think its important to go and read both sides of the story...
As if there were only two sides ...but I think I know what you mean and I agrree with the concept. On important issues I like to get the extremes from the right, the left, and then a couple from the middle and piece together my own mosaic of what's up. I keep change in mind ...e.g. I'm thinking about Al Jazeera shifting from the margins to the more conservative mainstream due to pressure from the Saudis.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:11 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I read the New York Times every day. I read the online edition when I don't have access to a paper copy. I also read my local newspaper daily, and the Oregonian every couple of days. I listen to NPR when I'm in the car and at work.

As for television, I admit to enjoying Wolf Blitzer's "The Situation Room" on CNN, mostly because it's primary/caucus time.

Also, I'm really glad that "A Daily Show" and "The ColBERT Report" are on once more, haha. I missed Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:33 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I get my news from CBC Radio 1, on the half hour from 9 to 5, Monday to Friday.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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The Globe and Mail newspaper every morning. Ustwo is right that many of us seek out what we want to hear but I find the Globe has a pretty good balance of columnists.

For breaking news I'll flip around between the usual gang of TV news until I get the gist, and then wait for the Globe the next day for a more indepth exploration.

TV news in the US seems to follow a very tight order of stories:

1.) Shocking Video! (disaster, scandal, youtube etc...)
2.) Presidential election campaign footage
3.) Sensational Legal proceedings.
4.) Medical Breakthrough or Diet advice
5.) Sports
6.) Weather
8.) Funny Video. (Cute animals and or children)

EDIT: On second thought, weather usually comes before Sports.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:07 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I don't usually go searching for news. I learn about it when I see it being discussed or if it appears on my iGoogle page. It's not a big deal to me anymore... because I know I'm never going to get the full story.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I read newspapers - several of them. Local, national and community. It's amazing what I run across. I hate the internet for news because you just don't run across things like newspapers. Don't get me wrong...I think the internet is great for information when you know what you're looking for. Just not general news becasue there's to many flipping computer pages which isn't like skimming a newspaper.
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Old 01-21-2008, 03:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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drudge
breitbart
gunnewsdaily.com
topix.net
officer.com
fark

and any number of message boards I hang out on on. The best news sources usually come from the same average citizen that we all are instead of some politically connected corporate conglomerate.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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ustwo: there is no objective information. anywhere. ever.

given that, you make choices about what is important--for me, the priority is more rather than less information, more rather than less context.
the more you know about the world as it is being referred to, the easier it is to control for political viewpoints.
conversely, the less information, the less context, the more information tends to be knit into political a priori--the american conservative press is full of tis sort of thing.

so i dont know: it seems to me that you can choose to move in a number of directions in terms of information gathering, but some political positions, and the information that originates from them, hamstring you more than others.

so even if you were right about political "biais", you'd still have trouble at the level of quality and amount of information--IF you rely on us conservative press outlets and major television for your infotainment.

btw i don't say this as an argument--it's more just a rationale for why some sources are more useful than others regardless of the political viewpoints of the editorial staff and maybe of the writers.

and i forgot to mention the economist.
that i read. i have no real problem with saner conservatives on this order: i just disagree about alot. but i don't mind disagreement with interpretation if the information makes it worth wading through that.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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so even if you were right about political "biais", you'd still have trouble at the level of quality and amount of information--IF you rely on us conservative press outlets and major television for your infotainment.
More crap is still crap, and just requires more shoveling.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:18 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I get the digest emails from BBC and NY Times every day, as well as reading my school newspaper (sure, it sucks, but they have some AP articles). I often look to CNN or BBC to stay current on some major event still in progress.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:20 PM   #37 (permalink)
 
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so what you're saying is that if you know the politics of the source or writer, everything they write is therefore worthless?

are you serious?
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:37 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I also read Le Monde Diplo. This is roachboy's fault. Still, I find it gives a perspective that often contrasts sharply with most English sources.

I'll also read Reuters, BBC and The Toronto Star. As I don't turn on my television for anything other than hockey, televised sources don't really work for me. The internet fills the gap admirably.

I used to read the local paper for news close to home. Then I realized how little of it is actually meaningful. Now I don't bother.
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I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head
I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said

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Old 01-21-2008, 07:10 PM   #39 (permalink)
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My news interests are varied, and my sources are:

1. The local county weekly - gotta know which couples are filing for divorce, which land tracts are being traded, and which county high school football team has the best chance next year! Plus, they give a great view of the county farm report.

2. The Tennessean - for wider news, not necessarily better written or more accurate. Their Corrections sections are often a whole two columns, six inches.

3. WSJ - when I can get it.

4. Fox/CNN/MSNBC - equal quantities of both. Perhaps I'll get a more well-rounded idea from all three?

5. BBC Online - for another take.

6. Japan Times and Bangkok Post - both online: for news of places I've lived and to keep up on the goings on there.

7. International Herald Tribune - for broader Asia news.

I use google search to keep up on current crimes and trials (a big interest) and also I just love Fark. Egads, can't get enough of some of their stories!
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:24 PM   #40 (permalink)
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ustwo:
so what you're saying is that if you know the politics of the source or writer, everything they write is therefore worthless?

are you serious?
I think you are focusing too much on my bias line (shocking if you don't know the guardian is biased but thats another topic)
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