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Plan9 · 12-15-2007, 09:22 PM

I disagree. Our ignorance is the best of all possible worlds.

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Originally Posted by Richard Bachman

I think; therefore I am. There are hairs on my face; therefore I shave. My wife and child have been critically injured in a car crash; therefore I pray. It's all logical, it's all sane. We live in the best of all possible worlds, so hand me a Kent for my left, a Bud for my right, turn on Starsky and Hutch, and listen to that soft, harmonious note that is the universe turning smoothly on it's celestial gyros. Logic and sanity. Like Coca-Cola, it's the real thing.

Crack another beer indeed.

Elphaba · 12-15-2007, 09:47 PM

Oh lordy...Stephen King without the pride of authorship. It's sorta, kinda something like an imitation.

Crompsin, you are the contrarian of tfp...no recount required.

jorgelito · 12-15-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

I agree with highthief.

The big difference is that nations with a democracy, a free press and freedom of speech need to remember these events. I would suggest that remembering these events, clearly is essential to never repeating them.

If you don't think it's working point to a nation that has these conditions that *has* repeated something like this...

I think the condemnation is important but not necessarily after so much time has passed. The Turkish event happened so many years ago and it just seems that there is more of the fueling of hatred than the useful side of the equation.

If there had been an official history of condemnation it is different from digging at the past. I am not sure it is completely useful and is more likely to have the contrary effect.

I get what your saying Charlatan, but I think the main difference is closure. The reason why some events keep festering like scabs that aren't allowed to heal is because they haven't healed properly. In essence I agree with you but would add that there needs to be closure (reconciliation) before there can be full healing and the whole "get over it" thing.

I think that's reasonable.

Strange Famous · 12-16-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crompsin

Tell me... have you ever seen a dead body before? They don't give a fuck how they died. Just ask 'em. They're dead. The crime is the almost same when the endstate is a bunch of decomposing bodies in a pile.

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Torture? Suffering? Clearly bad things. Being dead, however, is being dead.

Yes - I was on a bus that knocked over and killed a women who was Christmas shopping about 10 years ago.

I do not find the experience instructive for making category judgements about Japanese and German war crimes.

Plan9 · 12-16-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous

I do not find the experience instructive for making category judgements about Japanese and German war crimes.

Oh, absolutely not. It does, however, let you in on how mouthy dead people are, doesn't it?

One dead body is just as noisy as the next.

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Originally Posted by Elphaba

Oh lordy...Stephen King without the pride of authorship.

Younger, angrier. I like his stuff, particularly Chapter 10 of Rage. Works well in this thread.

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Elphaba Deja Moo Location: Olympic Peninsula, WA	Oh lordy...Stephen King without the pride of authorship. It's sorta, kinda something like an imitation. Crompsin, you are the contrarian of tfp...no recount required. __________________ "You can't ignore politics, no matter how much you'd like to." Molly Ivins - 1944-2007