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hrdwareguy · 06-20-2003, 08:03 AM

Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving

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Reported by Vic Gideon
POSTED: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:06:15 PM
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:20:52 PM

PORTAGE COUNTY -- A mother traveling from Detroit to Pittsburgh got into trouble in Portage County while trying to drive and breastfeed her baby at the same time.

Twenty-nine-year-old Catherine Donkers had fed the baby before she left Detroit but said her seven-month-old daughter was hungry again.

"I knew I was doing nothing wrong when I was breastfeeding her," Donkers said.

Donkers doesn't consider her actions excessively dangerous.

"I think there are lots of things we do when we put ourselves at risk, just by the very fact that I'm in a car and there's lots of car accidents every single day," she said. "I think it would be reasonable to say even that's a danger."

A truck driver apparently saw it as a danger and called the highway patrol. But Donkers wouldn't pull over for police until she got to a tollbooth.

"I've directed her to, that when she doesn't feel safe, she goes to a public place," said her husband, Brad Barnhill.

At the tollbooth, Donkers didn't give the trooper a driver's license. She instead pulled out an affidavit as identification and got cited for not having a license.

The couple also claims she did nothing wrong, saying Michigan law has an exemption to its child restraint law for nursing mothers.

They claim that since the turnpike is an interstate, drivers can follow the laws of their home state. But the highway patrol says that as long as the stop occurred in Ohio, they have to abide by Ohio laws.

The couple has done extensive research on the law and believes in a strict adherence to them. Donkers is facing child endangering and child seat violations among other charges. Her and her husband say they plan to fight all charges and will file a counter suit.

I see nothing wrong with her not stopping until she got to the toll booth. However thinking it's ok to drive and breastfeed and talk on the cell phone I don't think so.

JStrider · 06-20-2003, 08:14 AM

well i dont think its very safe to be breastfeeding while driving .... what if the person in front of you slammed on the brakes and you rearended them going 60-70mph... the airbag will splatter the baby... and if their is no airbag then im sure the steering wheel would do a good job of it...

Cynthetiq · 06-20-2003, 08:14 AM

oh.. i guess she's above all the laws...

what a dummy, take full responsibility when something goes wrong, cuz we all know that if her baby was hurt, she's say,"But I didn't know... it's the car manufacturers fault for not labeling it."

shalafi · 06-20-2003, 08:19 AM

Im pretty sure down here not pulling over is against the law too. I think the charge is "failure to stop" or somehting like that. I think they should throw the book at her. Any charge even remotely close. Her we do lots fo things to put ourselves at risk defense is bullshit. Its not just herself shes risking but her baby and anyone else nearby on the road. They should arrest her daddy too....for not wearing a damn condom.

gov135 · 06-20-2003, 08:20 AM

First, these people seem to have large projectiles shoved up their... i mean, pay your fine and be done with it.

Second, I don't see this as being any different then cell phones or DVD players, etc. Some people can use them and drive just fine, others are a hazard. If you can control your automobile and breastfeed at the same time, more power to you. If you can't, stop doing it, you are giving a bad name to those who can.

Glory's Sun · 06-20-2003, 08:21 AM

She's whacko. I mean honestly how can it be safe to breastfeed while you're driving? Sometimes I wish we had a stupid driver law in America. If you do something stupid you lose your license.

SecretMethod70 · 06-20-2003, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by gov135
First, these people seem to have large projectiles shoved up their... i mean, pay your fine and be done with it.

Second, I don't see this as being any different then cell phones or DVD players, etc. Some people can use them and drive just fine, others are a hazard. If you can control your automobile and breastfeed at the same time, more power to you. If you can't, stop doing it, you are giving a bad name to those who can.

The difference here is that the cell phone is not alive. If you get in an accident because you were on the cell phone and the cell phone is destroyed, who cares. This lady was putting her baby at a definite greater risk than normal. There's no excuse.

gov135 · 06-20-2003, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by SecretMethod70
The difference here is that the cell phone is not alive. If you get in an accident because you were on the cell phone and the cell phone is destroyed, who cares. This lady was putting her baby at a definite greater risk than normal. There's no excuse.

I respectfully disagree. You can legislate against child abuse, or pass laws against child endangerment.

You can't legislate against parental stupidity. As the article states, this seems to be legal. It would not be endangerment unless you could prove an accident is the likely result. I agree with you that she put her baby at greater risk. But I don't see any difference between this and cell phones in the legal sense.

Derwood · 06-20-2003, 08:47 AM

it's illegal, and that is that. The baby MUST be in the back seat in a rear facing child car seat

eyeseepeedude · 06-20-2003, 08:49 AM

was she hot? if so, then it was also dangerous due to the amount of attention she'd be getting from the other male drivers.

MikeyChalupa · 06-20-2003, 09:06 AM

At the VERY least, she's guilty of not having the kid in a car seat. Every state has some sort of law about infants having to be in car seats. She MUST know that, seeing as she's "done extensive research on the law and believes in a strict adherence to them". She hould have just pulled to the side, fed the kid, and headed on her way. But then again, if she's one of those people who doesn't want to pull over for a cop. then she probably wouldn't want to sit in her car on the side of the road and nurse her baby.

Personally, I think she should pay her fine, shut up, and be glad that she didn't get herself and her kid, and possibly other people, killed due to her selfishness.

-Mikey

Tirian · 06-20-2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Derwood
it's illegal, and that is that. The baby MUST be in the back seat in a rear facing child car seat

Thanks for this Derwood. That right there is the endagerment part.

My wife and I made a 6,500 km (approx) road trip with a nursing baby, and for me whenever he needed to nurse it was the only break I would get from driving. I'd pull over, grab a quick stretch and then a short catnap. When finished with the nursing back in the car seat he'd go, and only then resume driving.

This habit paid off big time when we hit a moose with an escort. Our baby was just fine in his car seat.

FYI My uncle is a long time paramedic, and says the worst of the worst things he has seen are a result of babies and small children not buckled in properly.

phredgreen · 06-20-2003, 10:10 AM

same thing everyone else has said, but ifeel the need to say it to..

miss DONKERS is a threat to her own child. doing anything that may take your attention away from driving endangers yourself and any passengers you are carrying. furthermore, it is unthinkable that any numbskull would have a loose baby in their car.... if anything were to happen, forget about the kid. that's done. this girl (she's a pissy girl who thinks she's always right, not a woman with sense and an idea what taking care of a child really requires) dosen't deserve to be a parent. anyone who would endager their kid's life like that dosen't deserve the priveledge.

tinfoil · 06-20-2003, 10:29 AM

There is no excuse. I have nothing against breastfeeding. When one is breastfeeding, one must split one's attention between the child and the road and anything that draws one's attention away from the road whilst travelling at interstate speeds is dangerous. Some women may claim that breastfeeding is not distracting, but from what I have seen and heard, it is at least somewhat.

Donker is playing up the breastfeeding angle to martyr herself and nothing more. She is hoping that womens rights groups will jump into the pool headfirst and defend her. Most women, however, would agree that she was just plain stupid to not only endanger herself, she is endangering the lives of her child and all of the other people on the road with her.

BBtB · 06-20-2003, 10:33 AM

Graphic store in a minute. You HAVE been warned. But first...

First off. When you are on the turnpike you are subject to the laws of the state that you are in. Where the frudge to they get this idea that because they are on the turnpike they are just subject to the laws of their home state? Secondly she dosn't "feel safe" pulling over for the highway patrol man? I think they should throw failure to stop at her too. Now even if this dosen't affect her driving it puts the child in alot of danger. Time for a story....

Okay, I have a friend, he is a highway patrolman. As one he has seen his fair shair of accidents. One day he was responding to an accident. A fender bender. An ambulance and another patrolman were allready there. Now the first thing he sees is the woman going absolutely hysterical in the back of the ambulance. The two paramedics are fighting to control her. He then sees the other patrolman, sitting in the ditch with his head in his hands. He is bawling his eyes out. Now he doesn't know whats going on. Like I said this was just a minor accident. Well as he approaches the car he is soon to find out. The woman had had her child on her lap. In the accident the childs head had slammed against the driver side window and then impaled itself on the turn signal.

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SiN · 06-20-2003, 10:42 AM

BBtB, i think your story says it all.

Yikes. this woman does not deserve a child, nor does anyone else who would risk similar...

tinfoil · 06-20-2003, 10:44 AM

As much as I hated to read that story BBtB, it is a perfect example why this woman should be brought up on endangerment charges. It is inexcusable. Let's learn from past mistakes.

sierra2774 · 06-20-2003, 10:49 AM

Any Mother who cares about the well being of her baby would never let her out of the car seat in the first place....If the baby was hungry, you stop the car, and then take the baby out and feed her...When she is done, you drive again...How hard is that to understand?

Cynthetiq · 06-20-2003, 11:37 AM

I forgot that I had actually witnessed something horrible when I was driving up to Boston a few weekends ago. The man in the SAAB next to me was reading the paper, mind you there was traffic, but we were still moving around 45mph... and it wasn't like whe was just glancing at it.. it was on his steering wheel and he'd read.. look up... read some more... look up...

I honked at him as I watched him... but he was so engrossed in his reading he didn't look over.

God of Thunder · 06-20-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
cuz we all know that if her baby was hurt, she'd say,"But I didn't know... it's the car manufacturers fault for not labeling it."

Amen!!

And then all of the car makers would then have to put labels in cars or make changes to the airbag design so that other dumbass women could do this.

This would take a lot of money and drive up the price of cars.

Thanks BITCH!!!

Bill O'Rights · 06-20-2003, 11:53 AM

First of all, I don't believe for a second that it is legal to breastfeed a child in a moving vehicle in Michigan. If, however, I am wrong (it has happened a time or two) and it is legal...then that's Michigan. She was pulled over in Ohio. Ohio laws most certainly apply when in Ohio, interstate highway or not. To illustrate, states have various speed limits these days. Do you really think for one moment that the cop pulling you over in Pennsylvania gives a rats ass that the speed limit on Nebraska highways is 75. Fuck no! It's 55 in Pennsylvania, here's your ticket moron.

Although, I do believe that she may well have been within her rights to proceed to the nearest tollboth to pull over. There have been instances where the cop in the mirror wasn't a cop at all, but some putz with a Federal System (lights and siren), and people have been raped and killed. The cops tend to understand what you're doing as long as you proceed directly to the nearest public place and don't lead them on a high speed pursuit down the highway. The tollbooth fit that bill.

WhoaitsZ · 06-20-2003, 03:12 PM

what an ignorant stupid hell bitch. okay. i don't care if the baby was hungry, i don't care if she thought it was safe, i also don't care (atm) about 'child abuse' laws.

I care about an infant getting killed because of some whacko asshole mother who doesn't have enough sense to realize having an infant in front/below her while driving is dangerous.

people this fucking dumb need to put their children up for adoption.

egads

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cdwonderful · 06-21-2003, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by sierra2774
Any Mother who cares about the well being of her baby would never let her out of the car seat in the first place....If the baby was hungry, you stop the car, and then take the baby out and feed her...When she is done, you drive again...How hard is that to understand?

not unlike using a cellphone with out a headset........

sierra2774 · 06-21-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by cdwonderful
not unlike using a cellphone with out a headset........

Alright...I get your point already, I'll look for one tonight at work.

splck · 06-21-2003, 07:36 AM

If the mother of my kids pulled a stunt like this she'd get a good slap. I can't believe her huband is sticking up for her. A couple of winners.

MaciasAIII · 06-21-2003, 01:46 PM

this goes right up there with drinking a 40 of MGD, talking on a cellphone while driving an 18 wheeleer. NOT SMART! this womnan should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and have her child taken due to child endangerment. cmon people. think.

krwlz · 06-21-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by shalafi
Im pretty sure down here not pulling over is against the law too. I think the charge is "failure to stop" or somehting like that.

Actually, as long as you signal that you are indeed going to pull over, you can drive to a public place before doing so. Its so that cops cant take advantage of their power, with no one around to see.

MacGnG · 06-21-2003, 02:00 PM

thats just stupid, of course its dangerous.
i'm sure she pays much more attention to her baby than to her cellphone, if u cant drive and talk on the cell phone u cant do that

The Bolshevist · 06-21-2003, 11:05 PM

There's a saying....

You need a licence to get a dog...but a kid? Oh, they'll anyone have one of those...

madsenj37 · 06-22-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by hrdwareguy
[B]Breast feeding while driving....dangerous??

Yes. No ifs, ands or buts. No exceptions. Pull over and stop or wait till later.

GakFace · 06-22-2003, 03:57 AM

How do you signal to the cops that you're going to pull over, but not just yet?

On the story..
The child wasn't in the back.. Thats one fine
the child wasn't buckled... Oops there is another 25 dollar fine, as I believe the 1 Strike and your out buckle up Law is now in effect across the states
No Driver's License.. um That alone is bad. Combined with all these other fines? I don't think she'll be GETTING a license anytime soon.

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"I think there are lots of things we do when we put ourselves at risk, just by the very fact that I'm in a car and there's lots of car accidents every single day," she said. "I think it would be reasonable to say even that's a danger."

What a Craptastic Excuse. I can deem ANYTHING as dangerous.. Try me, and I can make it sound dangerous, this is NO excuse.

Breast Feeding while driving = Stupid, and Child takin' away. Sorry but to put a life in danger like that is wrong, its not like she was on a bridge and couldn't pull over.... wait a second... HOW DID SHE GET THE BABY TO HER SEAT?!?!?!? Did she just turn around while driving? or was in next to her the whole time? OR did she have to stop anyways to grab the child? THAT is what I'd like to know...

Sparhawk · 06-22-2003, 05:13 AM

Put your turn signal on and get in the right lane. If the cop pulls alongside you, signal your intent to get out at the next exit. I've known some people who do this because they read some horror story in reader's digest about people impersonating cops.

06-20-2003, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	well i dont think its very safe to be breastfeeding while driving .... what if the person in front of you slammed on the brakes and you rearended them going 60-70mph... the airbag will splatter the baby... and if their is no airbag then im sure the steering wheel would do a good job of it... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

06-20-2003, 08:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	oh.. i guess she's above all the laws... what a dummy, take full responsibility when something goes wrong, cuz we all know that if her baby was hurt, she's say,"But I didn't know... it's the car manufacturers fault for not labeling it." __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

06-20-2003, 08:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	it's illegal, and that is that. The baby MUST be in the back seat in a rear facing child car seat __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

06-20-2003, 08:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
eyeseepeedude Sir Location: Colorado Springs, CO	was she hot? if so, then it was also dangerous due to the amount of attention she'd be getting from the other male drivers. __________________ If you like what you see, donate to the TFP

06-20-2003, 10:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
phredgreen who? Location: the phoenix metro	same thing everyone else has said, but ifeel the need to say it to.. miss <b><i>DONKERS</i></b> is a threat to her own child. doing anything that may take your attention away from driving endangers yourself and any passengers you are carrying. furthermore, it is unthinkable that any numbskull would have a loose baby in their car.... if anything were to happen, forget about the kid. that's done. this girl (she's a pissy girl who thinks she's always right, not a woman with sense and an idea what taking care of a child really requires) dosen't deserve to be a parent. anyone who would endager their kid's life like that dosen't deserve the priveledge. __________________ My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine

06-20-2003, 08:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
shalafi ARRRRRRRRRR Location: Stuart, Florida	Im pretty sure down here not pulling over is against the law too. I think the charge is "failure to stop" or somehting like that. I think they should throw the book at her. Any charge even remotely close. Her we do lots fo things to put ourselves at risk defense is bullshit. Its not just herself shes risking but her baby and anyone else nearby on the road. They should arrest her daddy too....for not wearing a damn condom.

06-20-2003, 08:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
gov135 Junkie Location: Midwest	First, these people seem to have large projectiles shoved up their... i mean, pay your fine and be done with it. Second, I don't see this as being any different then cell phones or DVD players, etc. Some people can use them and drive just fine, others are a hazard. If you can control your automobile and breastfeed at the same time, more power to you. If you can't, stop doing it, you are giving a bad name to those who can.

06-20-2003, 08:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	She's whacko. I mean honestly how can it be safe to breastfeed while you're driving? Sometimes I wish we had a stupid driver law in America. If you do something stupid you lose your license.

06-20-2003, 09:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	At the VERY least, she's guilty of not having the kid in a car seat. Every state has some sort of law about infants having to be in car seats. She MUST know that, seeing as she's "done extensive research on the law and believes in a strict adherence to them". She hould have just pulled to the side, fed the kid, and headed on her way. But then again, if she's one of those people who doesn't want to pull over for a cop. then she probably wouldn't want to sit in her car on the side of the road and nurse her baby. Personally, I think she should pay her fine, shut up, and be glad that she didn't get herself and her kid, and possibly other people, killed due to her selfishness. -Mikey

06-20-2003, 10:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	There is no excuse. I have nothing against breastfeeding. When one is breastfeeding, one must split one's attention between the child and the road and anything that draws one's attention away from the road whilst travelling at interstate speeds is dangerous. Some women may claim that breastfeeding is not distracting, but from what I have seen and heard, it is at least somewhat. Donker is playing up the breastfeeding angle to martyr herself and nothing more. She is hoping that womens rights groups will jump into the pool headfirst and defend her. Most women, however, would agree that she was just plain stupid to not only endanger herself, she is endangering the lives of her child and all of the other people on the road with her. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

06-20-2003, 10:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	Graphic store in a minute. You HAVE been warned. But first... First off. When you are on the turnpike you are subject to the laws of the state that you are in. Where the frudge to they get this idea that because they are on the turnpike they are just subject to the laws of their home state? Secondly she dosn't "feel safe" pulling over for the highway patrol man? I think they should throw failure to stop at her too. Now even if this dosen't affect her driving it puts the child in alot of danger. Time for a story.... Okay, I have a friend, he is a highway patrolman. As one he has seen his fair shair of accidents. One day he was responding to an accident. A fender bender. An ambulance and another patrolman were allready there. Now the first thing he sees is the woman going absolutely hysterical in the back of the ambulance. The two paramedics are fighting to control her. He then sees the other patrolman, sitting in the ditch with his head in his hands. He is bawling his eyes out. Now he doesn't know whats going on. Like I said this was just a minor accident. Well as he approaches the car he is soon to find out. The woman had had her child on her lap. In the accident the childs head had slammed against the driver side window and then impaled itself on the turn signal. .. __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"

06-20-2003, 10:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	BBtB, i think your story says it all. Yikes. this woman does not deserve a child, nor does anyone else who would risk similar... __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

06-20-2003, 10:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	As much as I hated to read that story BBtB, it is a perfect example why this woman should be brought up on endangerment charges. It is inexcusable. Let's learn from past mistakes. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

06-20-2003, 10:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
sierra2774 Addict Location: Northeast Ohio	Any Mother who cares about the well being of her baby would never let her out of the car seat in the first place....If the baby was hungry, you stop the car, and then take the baby out and feed her...When she is done, you drive again...How hard is that to understand? __________________ "Every tomorrow brings new opportunities, challenges we must address...A chance to affirm all our wishes and dreams, to seek beauty and true happiness."

06-20-2003, 11:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	I forgot that I had actually witnessed something horrible when I was driving up to Boston a few weekends ago. The man in the SAAB next to me was reading the paper, mind you there was traffic, but we were still moving around 45mph... and it wasn't like whe was just glancing at it.. it was on his steering wheel and he'd read.. look up... read some more... look up... I honked at him as I watched him... but he was so engrossed in his reading he didn't look over. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

06-20-2003, 11:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	First of all, I don't believe for a second that it is legal to breastfeed a child in a moving vehicle in Michigan. <b>If</b>, however, I am wrong (it <b>has</b> happened a time or two) and it is legal...then that's Michigan. She was pulled over in Ohio. Ohio laws most certainly apply when in Ohio, interstate highway or not. To illustrate, states have various speed limits these days. Do you really think for one moment that the cop pulling you over in Pennsylvania gives a rats ass that the speed limit on Nebraska highways is 75. Fuck no! It's 55 in Pennsylvania, here's your ticket moron. Although, I <b>do</b> believe that she may well have been within her rights to proceed to the nearest tollboth to pull over. There have been instances where the cop in the mirror wasn't a cop at all, but some putz with a Federal System (lights and siren), and people have been raped and killed. The cops tend to understand what you're doing as long as you proceed directly to the nearest public place and don't lead them on a high speed pursuit down the highway. The tollbooth fit that bill. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

06-20-2003, 03:12 PM	#22 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	what an ignorant stupid hell bitch. okay. i don't care if the baby was hungry, i don't care if she thought it was safe, i also don't care (atm) about 'child abuse' laws. I care about an infant getting killed because of some whacko asshole mother who doesn't have enough sense to realize having an infant in front/below her while driving is dangerous. people this fucking dumb need to put their children up for adoption. egads ssstttttttuuuuuuuupppppppiiiiiiidddddddd

06-21-2003, 07:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	If the mother of my kids pulled a stunt like this she'd get a good slap. I can't believe her huband is sticking up for her. A couple of winners. __________________ nice line eh?

06-21-2003, 01:46 PM	#26 (permalink)
MaciasAIII Banned Location: 3rd shithole on the left	this goes right up there with drinking a 40 of MGD, talking on a cellphone while driving an 18 wheeleer. NOT SMART! this womnan should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and have her child taken due to child endangerment. cmon people. think.

06-21-2003, 02:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	thats just stupid, of course its dangerous. i'm sure she pays much more attention to her baby than to her cellphone, if u cant drive and talk on the cell phone u cant do that

06-21-2003, 11:05 PM	#29 (permalink)
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06-22-2003, 05:13 AM	#32 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	Put your turn signal on and get in the right lane. If the cop pulls alongside you, signal your intent to get out at the next exit. I've known some people who do this because they read some horror story in reader's digest about people impersonating cops. __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."