Is it wrong to make sensitive jokes? - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

GakFace · 06-21-2003, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
Either your wife is wound a bit too tight, or your "friends" were tormenting her, not just joking around. There is a difference between being cruel and joking, although some may be unable to tell the difference.

Yeah, they were joking, in their eyes, heck maybe they liked getting her angry, but they still saw it as a joke. No matter how you look at it, his former friends believed they were joking. I've had that shit happen to me before in middle school. A bunch of "great" friends joked with me past the point of joking, yet to them it only got funnier, so they kept on talking.... People need to realize that there is more then just THEM being affected by the words out of their mouth.

GakFace · 06-21-2003, 05:53 PM

ok..... you were there.... So why didn't you stop them?

rat · 06-21-2003, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
it is never okay to intentionally hurt one's feelings. (unless they are nazis)

Ok, call me crazy, but your concept of right and acceptable seems to be heavily biased in a certain area.

So...because bigots make other people feel worthless, it's ok to do the same to them. It's not okay to hurt anyone, except for those that intentionally hurt people's feelings....which makes you better than them how? For them, it's never ok to mistreat a "pure white" lady or man, but anyone else is ok, because those people are worthless. In turn, you say never to mistreat any other "rational" or "unbiased" person, but any bigot or racist is ok, because they are without merit or value.

I'm not some hyper-liberal, nazi-loving, 1st amendment brandishing ACLU member. But I am a person who finds great fallacy in circular logic. Its ok to hurt them because they hurt others. Thats not a legitimate statement of cause, and therefore, it's no less narrowminded than their own. I don't like bigots, and definitely put no stock in their beliefs, as I said in another post in this same thread, but singling them out as "deserving" of ridicule and torment makes you no better than them. They are a very vocal minority that has its place in society--the place that reminds us of how to never treat anyone ever again, including them, too.

PatrickBateman · 07-09-2003, 11:09 PM

Do you mean insensitive jokes? Well, I guess that they're morally wrong, but who the fuck cares, kike?

meembo · 07-09-2003, 11:18 PM

The question isn't if it's wrong to tell sensitive jokes -- to me, that's a meaningless question -- the question is if it's wrong to offend others knowingly (isn't that the implication of the question?).

What is your intention?-- to educate, to inform, to piss off, ???

The subjectivity of the question begs a subjective answer that's rooted in the the Golden Rule. If you can justify hearing it unoffended in the whole, then it's OK

laxative · 07-09-2003, 11:18 PM

fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

laxative · 07-10-2003, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by meembo
What is your intention?-- to educate, to inform, to piss off, ???

my intention is to laugh. that's why it's called a joke. nothing else matters.

grayman · 07-10-2003, 12:40 AM

I think that whatever you say behind closed doors is just fine, it's a joke, it helps people deal with the horrid realities of the worst the world has to offer. If you do it with people you know won't be offended by it, what's the harm.

06-21-2003, 05:53 PM	#42 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	ok..... you were there.... So why didn't you stop them? __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

07-09-2003, 11:09 PM	#44 (permalink)
PatrickBateman Upright Location: New York, NY American Gardens Building, Apt. 10I	Do you mean insensitive jokes? Well, I guess that they're morally wrong, but who the fuck cares, kike? __________________ Another martini, Paul? Last edited by PatrickBateman; 07-10-2003 at 12:17 AM..

07-09-2003, 11:18 PM	#45 (permalink)
meembo Junkie Location: Connecticut	The question isn't if it's wrong to tell sensitive jokes -- to me, that's a meaningless question -- the question is if it's wrong to offend others knowingly (isn't that the implication of the question?). What is your intention?-- to educate, to inform, to piss off, ??? The subjectivity of the question begs a subjective answer that's rooted in the the Golden Rule. If you can justify hearing it unoffended in the whole, then it's OK __________________ less I say, smarter I am

07-10-2003, 12:40 AM	#48 (permalink)
grayman you can't see me Location: Illinois	edited to avoid hurting PatrickBateman's feelings. I think that whatever you say behind closed doors is just fine, it's a joke, it helps people deal with the horrid realities of the worst the world has to offer. If you do it with people you know won't be offended by it, what's the harm. __________________ That's right - I'm a guy in a suit eating a Blizzard. F U.

07-09-2003, 11:18 PM	#46 (permalink)
laxative Loser Location: the bathroom	fuck 'em if they can't take a joke